Math and Science/ Social studies only for AAP

[Anonymous]

My child has been recently diagnosed with dyslexia. Child is currently in second grade and was in pool for AAP earlier this year.

Child is slightly behind in reading and writing. The child had a perfect NNAT score, 143 combined for COGAT. Due to the dyslexia testing, we received her IQ score which is 136.

Child lacks confidence in reading, and I don’t think it’s a good idea to place her in a APP language arts.

I’m providing all these details to help understand that this child has intelectual abilities yet feels dumb because of the dyslexia impacting her reading/writing abilities.

If child gets into AAP, would it be possible to request for the school not have her attend language arts in the APP class?

I know child can do the math only portion. However, child loves and is good at science. I would love
for them to be able to do something that interests them and helps with their confidence.

I am not sure if it matters, we are in zone to an AAP center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child has been recently diagnosed with dyslexia. Child is currently in second grade and was in pool for AAP earlier this year.

Child is slightly behind in reading and writing. The child had a perfect NNAT score, 143 combined for COGAT. Due to the dyslexia testing, we received her IQ score which is 136.

Child lacks confidence in reading, and I don’t think it’s a good idea to place her in a APP language arts.

I’m providing all these details to help understand that this child has intelectual abilities yet feels dumb because of the dyslexia impacting her reading/writing abilities.

If child gets into AAP, would it be possible to request for the school not have her attend language arts in the APP class?

I know child can do the math only portion. However, child loves and is good at science. I would love
for them to be able to do something that interests them and helps with their confidence.

I am not sure if it matters, we are in zone to an AAP center.

No, that is not possible, but doesn’t your child have an IEP for dyslexia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child has been recently diagnosed with dyslexia. Child is currently in second grade and was in pool for AAP earlier this year.

Child is slightly behind in reading and writing. The child had a perfect NNAT score, 143 combined for COGAT. Due to the dyslexia testing, we received her IQ score which is 136.

Child lacks confidence in reading, and I don’t think it’s a good idea to place her in a APP language arts.

I’m providing all these details to help understand that this child has intelectual abilities yet feels dumb because of the dyslexia impacting her reading/writing abilities.

If child gets into AAP, would it be possible to request for the school not have her attend language arts in the APP class?

I know child can do the math only portion. However, child loves and is good at science. I would love
for them to be able to do something that interests them and helps with their confidence.

I am not sure if it matters, we are in zone to an AAP center.

I believe the answer is no. And I don't think it would make that much of a difference because all of AAP is supposed to be accelerated so there is supposed to be more reading and writing in science as well as LA.

You could defer AAP and have her participate in Advanced Math. Try LIII pull outs for some of the AAP extensions but we have friends who pulled their kid out of the LIII extensions because that meant their child was missing part of a class and had to make up that material.

[Anonymous]

I find all of AAP except math to be very language-heavy. There is a lot of homework & reading and a lot of writing/project-based learning for both science and social studies. If your kid is only able to do the accelerated math, it doesn’t sound like AAP is a good fit.

[Anonymous]

OP Here: Thank you for the insides. we could get an accommodation due to the dyslexia. It is frustrating for her because she wants to be challenged.

Does anyone know of a policy that would not allow the child to only do part of the APP program?

[Anonymous]

Why not just make sure the school is providing her with the reading support she needs and also get your own tutor? My child has advanced significantly in the past year because of OG tutoring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP Here: Thank you for the insides. we could get an accommodation due to the dyslexia. It is frustrating for her because she wants to be challenged.

Does anyone know of a policy that would not allow the child to only do part of the APP program?

That is what Advanced Math is, a part of the program. I have not heard of cases where kids get to pick and choose what part of class they attend in ES, which is what you are asking about.

She can participate in Advanced Math and then Gen Ed for the rest of the material.

[Anonymous]

Agree with PP — very common to do Advanced Math only, but some LLIV programs may also have flexibility to switch out for Language Arts only (depends on model — talk to the school AART).

That being said, it may be better stay in AAP and receive accommodations for dyslexia. If your child was identified for AAP, the type of learning in Language Arts (seminars, etc.) may still be a good fit, despite the dyslexia.

[Anonymous]

There are lots of dyslexic kids in AAP with accommodations. That’s what I would do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP Here: Thank you for the insides. we could get an accommodation due to the dyslexia. It is frustrating for her because she wants to be challenged.

Does anyone know of a policy that would not allow the child to only do part of the APP program?

I don’t know about any official policies and this was a while ago (the student is now a college junior) but my older child had a friend who was in AAP and, due to some arrangement, did NOT take advanced math starting in ES. I do know that the student had an IEP that played a role. So moving a student out of AAP for a single subject has been done in FCPS before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP Here: Thank you for the insides. we could get an accommodation due to the dyslexia. It is frustrating for her because she wants to be challenged.

Does anyone know of a policy that would not allow the child to only do part of the APP program?

I don’t know about any official policies and this was a while ago (the student is now a college junior) but my older child had a friend who was in AAP and, due to some arrangement, did NOT take advanced math starting in ES. I do know that the student had an IEP that played a role. So moving a student out of AAP for a single subject has been done in FCPS before.

Yes. Math. Because there is an Advanced Math option so there are kids from Gen Ed that might join an LIV class for math and some of the AAP kids leave for Gen Ed math. The subjects are held at the same time in specific classrooms so that kids can change classrooms for the subject.

This normally doesn't happen with Social Studies or Science or LA. Social Studies and Science are not necessarily taught every day and Teachers vary those subjects based on what needs to be covered in the classroom. Grade Teams will coordinate what material they are covering over a period of time and maybe some of the materials that are being used but they don't use the same lesson plans and they don't necessarily teach on the same specific time table, more a "In this quarter we will discuss erosion in science and the Romans in Social Studies." Moving a child in and out of a class for just science and math means tight coordination between two Teachers.

Kids who are not selected for LIV services or who defer level IV services and are strong in math take Advanced Math. It might be held in the LIV classroom or be taught to a sub set of kids in Gen Ed during the math block. This is what my son had in grades 3-4 at his base school that did not have a LLIV program. In 5th grade, the Advanced Math kids ended up in one class together for the first time.

Kids who are not selected for LIV services or who deferred level IV services and are deemed to need a challenge but not strong enough for Advanced Math are placed in LIII. It tends to be a pull out that meets once a week for an hour and includes a lot of the LIV extensions. So the Socratic conversation, Cesare's English that type of thing.

There is no Advanced LA or Advanced Science or Advanced Social Science. Coordinating moving between those might be challenging. I am sure it is something that can be asked about but I think the advice that they look for accommodations for the dyslexia and aim for LIV is probably more doable.

[Anonymous]

There is a 2E Handbook that may be helpful. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FCPS2eHandbook.pdf

I also suggest you join Fairfax SEPTA.
There is also is a 2E Facebook group for parents that is quite active (FCPS 2e group). You need to answer the questions to join.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP Here: Thank you for the insides. we could get an accommodation due to the dyslexia. It is frustrating for her because she wants to be challenged.

Does anyone know of a policy that would not allow the child to only do part of the APP program?

I don’t know about any official policies and this was a while ago (the student is now a college junior) but my older child had a friend who was in AAP and, due to some arrangement, did NOT take advanced math starting in ES. I do know that the student had an IEP that played a role. So moving a student out of AAP for a single subject has been done in FCPS before.

Yes. Math. Because there is an Advanced Math option so there are kids from Gen Ed that might join an LIV class for math and some of the AAP kids leave for Gen Ed math. The subjects are held at the same time in specific classrooms so that kids can change classrooms for the subject.

This normally doesn't happen with Social Studies or Science or LA. Social Studies and Science are not necessarily taught every day and Teachers vary those subjects based on what needs to be covered in the classroom. Grade Teams will coordinate what material they are covering over a period of time and maybe some of the materials that are being used but they don't use the same lesson plans and they don't necessarily teach on the same specific time table, more a "In this quarter we will discuss erosion in science and the Romans in Social Studies." Moving a child in and out of a class for just science and math means tight coordination between two Teachers.

Kids who are not selected for LIV services or who defer level IV services and are strong in math take Advanced Math. It might be held in the LIV classroom or be taught to a sub set of kids in Gen Ed during the math block. This is what my son had in grades 3-4 at his base school that did not have a LLIV program. In 5th grade, the Advanced Math kids ended up in one class together for the first time.

Kids who are not selected for LIV services or who deferred level IV services and are deemed to need a challenge but not strong enough for Advanced Math are placed in LIII. It tends to be a pull out that meets once a week for an hour and includes a lot of the LIV extensions. So the Socratic conversation, Cesare's English that type of thing.

There is no Advanced LA or Advanced Science or Advanced Social Science. Coordinating moving between those might be challenging. I am sure it is something that can be asked about but I think the advice that they look for accommodations for the dyslexia and aim for LIV is probably more doable.

OP Here: Thank you for your reply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a 2E Handbook that may be helpful. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FCPS2eHandbook.pdf

I also suggest you join Fairfax SEPTA.
There is also is a 2E Facebook group for parents that is quite active (FCPS 2e group). You need to answer the questions to join.

There is also a meeting March 7, 2023 at 7 pm with Dr. Reid for parents of 2E students and 2E students. It is organized by Fairfax SEPTA.