s/o Do you think your DC's grades are well-earned or inflated?

[Anonymous]

Lots of discussion on schools having inflated grades.

Do you think your DC's grades are well-earned or inflated?

[Anonymous]

Well-earned. My DD studies her ass off and earns A's. In HS, my DS did not study as hard and earned a fair share of B's; now in college, he is studying harder and earning mostly A's.

[Anonymous]

inflated.

Kid has a 4.0 weighted and 3.7 unweighted - all honors + will have 6 APs before graduation. Never does homework, doesn't know how to study, etc. I worry about him going to college.

He is in an underperforming HS so he does well compared to other kids at his school (60/485), but I don't think compared to other kids in this area.

[Anonymous]

I'm just like all the other posters here.

My kid was completely deserving of his "A"s but all the other kids who got them were completely underserving SOBs exploiting a corrupt system designed specifically to hurt me and my family by 7 lizard people in Switzerland who run the world.

Totally normal.

[Anonymous]

I have twins at two different private schools. One of them works like a dog for Bs. There is no grade inflation. The school's college list is phenomenal. The other one has some grade inflation.They don't do things like letting you turn in papers late for full credit, but they just fill the grading chart with a lot of worksheets and busy work. Class participation also counts for a lot. So it's pretty hard to get below a B if you show up and do your work.

[Anonymous]

Private HS very well-earned.

They were public in middle school and basically just had to show up. Many of their friends didn't even start assignments until after the due date and took retests all of the time...and could attain the same A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of discussion on schools having inflated grades.

Do you think your DC's grades are well-earned or inflated?

Both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Private HS very well-earned.

They were public in middle school and basically just had to show up. Many of their friends didn't even start assignments until after the due date and took retests all of the time...and could attain the same A.

While not great habits, procrastination is hardly unusual and retakes for an A is fine if they learn the material, which is the point (rather than getting the grade first or whatever).

[Anonymous]

There is grade inflation.

But my kid has low processing speed, ADHD and learning disorders and he works 10 times as hard as anyone else to achieve. So yes, he EARNS his grades. Nothing is easy for him.

[Anonymous]

It's a mix. The As are well earned, but it seems like the teachers rarely give below a B.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is grade inflation.

But my kid has low processing speed, ADHD and learning disorders and he works 10 times as hard as anyone else to achieve. So yes, he EARNS his grades. Nothing is easy for him.

Same for mine. I do think there is some inflation (we're MCPS), but, OTOH, she is working so hard to get around her ADHD, she has to know the content better than everyone else to compensate for the attention-based errors that will always be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Private HS very well-earned.

They were public in middle school and basically just had to show up. Many of their friends didn't even start assignments until after the due date and took retests all of the time...and could attain the same A.

While not great habits, procrastination is hardly unusual and retakes for an A is fine if they learn the material, which is the point (rather than getting the grade first or whatever).

This is what we have come too: low expectations, everyone gets a trophy.

It's fine if they are mentally challenged and need more time, a slower pace, more bites at the apple. They should not be given the same grade. If the standards are lowered and the bar keeps getting dropped, kids will meet the lowest common denominator. We used to distinguish between kids that were prepared for rigorous college course load at the top 10-20 universities. They aren't kids turning in things late and having trouble studying or retaining material and 3 chapters behind. That is fine. They can attend a university which moves at a slower pace and has more students in the same boat. This is equivalent to putting a mediocre football player at best on Georgia or Michigan's teams.

Not every kid is the same. We started to fail when we want every ability to be the same for every child. At some point we stopped awarding merit due to the poor self esteem it might cause in other students and a prime example of that was the hiding of the NSMF at local area high schools--many of them. And now doing away with test scores...and hell you have some advocating for removal of GPAs as a standard too. These are academic institutions, academic success matters. We have thousands of universities in the country, not everyone is meant for a top 50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Private HS very well-earned.

They were public in middle school and basically just had to show up. Many of their friends didn't even start assignments until after the due date and took retests all of the time...and could attain the same A.

While not great habits, procrastination is hardly unusual and retakes for an A is fine if they learn the material, which is the point (rather than getting the grade first or whatever).

I was a queen of procrastination BUT I never turned in anything late and the worked I turned in was top-notch. It involved staying up 24 hours some times, but it never was late and it was sometimes the best work in the class.

What is happening is we are now calling turning in assignments 3 weeks late as mere 'procrastination'. Truly not the same person/student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Private HS very well-earned.

They were public in middle school and basically just had to show up. Many of their friends didn't even start assignments until after the due date and took retests all of the time...and could attain the same A.

While not great habits, procrastination is hardly unusual and retakes for an A is fine if they learn the material, which is the point (rather than getting the grade first or whatever).

This is what we have come too: low expectations, everyone gets a trophy.

It's fine if they are mentally challenged and need more time, a slower pace, more bites at the apple. They should not be given the same grade. If the standards are lowered and the bar keeps getting dropped, kids will meet the lowest common denominator. We used to distinguish between kids that were prepared for rigorous college course load at the top 10-20 universities. They aren't kids turning in things late and having trouble studying or retaining material and 3 chapters behind. That is fine. They can attend a university which moves at a slower pace and has more students in the same boat. This is equivalent to putting a mediocre football player at best on Georgia or Michigan's teams.

Not every kid is the same. We started to fail when we want every ability to be the same for every child. At some point we stopped awarding merit due to the poor self esteem it might cause in other students and a prime example of that was the hiding of the NSMF at local area high schools--many of them. And now doing away with test scores...and hell you have some advocating for removal of GPAs as a standard too. These are academic institutions, academic success matters. We have thousands of universities in the country, not everyone is meant for a top 50.

Keep asking, no one answers:

Assuming this is true, where is the evidence this is causing problems, and for whom? Don't want speculation, want evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Private HS very well-earned.

They were public in middle school and basically just had to show up. Many of their friends didn't even start assignments until after the due date and took retests all of the time...and could attain the same A.

While not great habits, procrastination is hardly unusual and retakes for an A is fine if they learn the material, which is the point (rather than getting the grade first or whatever).

This is what we have come too: low expectations, everyone gets a trophy.

It's fine if they are mentally challenged and need more time, a slower pace, more bites at the apple. They should not be given the same grade. If the standards are lowered and the bar keeps getting dropped, kids will meet the lowest common denominator. We used to distinguish between kids that were prepared for rigorous college course load at the top 10-20 universities. They aren't kids turning in things late and having trouble studying or retaining material and 3 chapters behind. That is fine. They can attend a university which moves at a slower pace and has more students in the same boat. This is equivalent to putting a mediocre football player at best on Georgia or Michigan's teams.

Not every kid is the same. We started to fail when we want every ability to be the same for every child. At some point we stopped awarding merit due to the poor self esteem it might cause in other students and a prime example of that was the hiding of the NSMF at local area high schools--many of them. And now doing away with test scores...and hell you have some advocating for removal of GPAs as a standard too. These are academic institutions, academic success matters. We have thousands of universities in the country, not everyone is meant for a top 50.

Your zero sum thinking is antiquated and wrong and your “participation trophies” trope points to you not being particularly bright.

The purpose of education is to gain mastery of material. It’s perfectly fine if everyone gets an A if they learn it.

It’s like you think there should be a bell curve where the highest grades are rationed.

No one functions that way anymore. Certainly not employers. And profits are booming.