2nd grade - no reading groups?

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I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

This was the case for my kid at an MCPS Focus school.

The teacher has to focus on the kids who need to be brought up to grade level. OP, it’s likely that if your kid reads at or above grade level, her reading group will rarely meet. Depends on the makeup of the class, but especially if there are enough kids who are below grade level.

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OP here. Thank you all. This must be what is happening - my DC reads above grade level, so is not being brought out for reading groups. I understand, and know that there is limited time in a day.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

What would the para do? It should be multiple teachers. Or just smaller class sizes to begin with.

My kid’s Title 1 school has reading groups everyday during reading block. All of the 2nd grade teachers divide the grade by ability and teach a group along with the reading specialist.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

Not the PP, but at our school the kids in the above level reading groups often just did ‘independent reading’, or spent time on Chromebooks, or were given an assignment to complete. Some days, it’s a long block of time! Some classes have five different reading groups.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

What would the para do? It should be multiple teachers. Or just smaller class sizes to begin with.

My kid’s Title 1 school has reading groups everyday during reading block. All of the 2nd grade teachers divide the grade by ability and teach a group along with the reading specialist.

A Title 1 school has much smaller classes and additional para support to allow that to happen. 16 kids with support is completely different than 24+ kids with no support.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

What would the para do? It should be multiple teachers. Or just smaller class sizes to begin with.

My kid’s Title 1 school has reading groups everyday during reading block. All of the 2nd grade teachers divide the grade by ability and teach a group along with the reading specialist.

A Title 1 school has much smaller classes and additional para support to allow that to happen. 16 kids with support is completely different than 24+ kids with no support.

Exactly. If every class had para support the para would be able to help out during reading group. Either to do lessons with the advance group or provide supports for those that need extra practice.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

What would the para do? It should be multiple teachers. Or just smaller class sizes to begin with.

My kid’s Title 1 school has reading groups everyday during reading block. All of the 2nd grade teachers divide the grade by ability and teach a group along with the reading specialist.

A Title 1 school has much smaller classes and additional para support to allow that to happen. 16 kids with support is completely different than 24+ kids with no support.

Exactly. If every class had para support the para would be able to help out during reading group. Either to do lessons with the advance group or provide supports for those that need extra practice.

It depends a lot on the para.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

NP, but the kids in the above average group in my child’s grade 2 class have a pull aside reading group with the teacher every 6-8 weeks.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious about whether there is a MCPS curriculum decision to not have small reading groups in 2nd grade but instead to read books as a whole classroom so that all students can experience the same books and discussion at the same time.

I’ve never known 2nd grade not to have reading groups. Alternatively, reading groups have never substituted for the teacher reading a book to entire class. Both are usually done.

At our ES they had them but kids at or above grade level only met once every 1-2 months where as the struggling readers met almost daily.

This is the norm.

I remember asking my 2nd grader about this and they were convinced they didn't have a reading group so I followed up with their teacher and had it explained. They do but only meet every couple of weeks because they're 1+ years above grade level so they're not a priority and don't get equal time.

Curious, did the teacher have a set amount of time they went between meeting with the on level/above level group? What did that group do in the interim?

This is the reason that I think all K-2 class should have part time of not full time paras.

What would the para do? It should be multiple teachers. Or just smaller class sizes to begin with.

My kid’s Title 1 school has reading groups everyday during reading block. All of the 2nd grade teachers divide the grade by ability and teach a group along with the reading specialist.

You'd think but these days teachers are in short-supply and even my kid's homeroom teacher is often absent so DC winds up in some split class about 1 day a week.