MSMC results are out
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Anonymous
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We just got a no for DC's #1 MSMC choice today, and a friend got a yes for the same school. (Note: this is the Argyle-Loiederman-Parkland group.)
Anyone have a sense of the odds for the second-chance lottery? DC is going to be very disappointed when they hear this outcome and we will be staying in the pool until the end, but I'm disappointed too and don't want to give myself or DC false hope. |
Anonymous
| I know of two from our elementary school who were accepted to Loiederman in round two last year. Best of luck to your DC. |
Anonymous
| How were you notified? Mail? |
Anonymous
| Yep. One of those little tear-open envelopes like report cards come in. Same with the friends who got a "yes": all arrived on the same day. |
Anonymous
Thanks so much. DC is now trying to cheer _us_ up and be optimistic about round 2. In the meantime we're concentrating on being happy for friends. |
Anonymous
| Loiederman had a lot of staff leave and multiple children transfer back to their home schools. |
Anonymous
| I can’t begin to tell you how much I hate this system. It dangles a carrot in front of these kids, rips apart friendships and changes the whole cohort dynamics. I wish either everyone who wanted to go there could or they just didn’t have the program. |
Anonymous
“Rips apart friendships” is pretty dramatic language, don’t you think? Kids who really want to remain friends will put in the effort, but there are no guarantees in life. My kids have been in various magnet programs since the fourth grade, and have drifted from some friends, but stayed close to others. And have drifted from some kids they’ve been in school with all along. |
Anonymous
| I think you have a good shot in round 2 because they even offer seats to kids outside the area at that time. Good luck OP |
Anonymous
| Have they notified families of acceptances into the merit-based programs yet? (Upcounty for me would be MLK/Clemente) |
Anonymous
We’re down-county and haven’t heard anything yet. DD should be in the pool based on test scores, but who knows anymore. |
Anonymous
Is test score the sole criterion? |
Anonymous
Results should be out by the 21st. It’s based on many factors but MAP and grades are the most important. |
Anonymous
Presumig straight As, biggest factors is whether their MAP scores are 85th percentile locally normed. Schools in lower-FARM clusters will need a higher national percentile. The MCCPTA Gifted Education Committee found that in schools with the lowest and second-lowest FARM rates, you need to be much higher--around the 95th percentile nationally. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CD-zDANEJAR5X-g5pMijtx9sCd4JS1IGPEB1VL-0-9Y/preview What data will be used to review Grade 5 students for needing enriched services in middle school? The process uses a multiple measures approach that includes Grade 5 report cards, locally-normed percentile ranks for the fall 2022 Measures of Adequate Progress in Reading and Mathematics (MAP-R and MAP-M), instructional reading level and student services including: special education services, EML- Emergent Multilingual Learner, Section 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced-priced Meals. The math, science and computer science program will use the MAP-M, science and math report card grades; and the humanities and communication program will use the MAP-R along with the reading and writing grades. Students who meet various academic criteria will receive enriched services in middle school. To receive enriched services for humanities and be placed in the humanities and communication lottery pool, Grade 5 students need to demonstrate an A in both reading and writing, above reading grade level on the marking period 1 report card from Grade 5, and a locally normed minimum of 85th percentile on this year’s (fall) MAP-R. For math, science or computer science, an A in both math and science and an indication of on level or higher for reading on the marking period 1 report card from Grade 5 and a locally normed minimum of 85th percentile on this year’s (fall) MAP-M. |
Anonymous
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Here is the info that MCCPTA Gifted Education Committee released from their public-records request on what local normed were used for middle-school magnets last year. The actual RIT/percentile cutoffs coud be different this year, but certainly they will still vary greatly by the percent FARMs at school. Those in high-FARMs schools will need lower MAP scores to be placed in the lottery than those in low FARMs scools.
2022 criteria-based middle-school magnet lottery Minimum MAP score/national percentile to be placed in the criteria-based magnets, by percentage of students receiving FARMs at the school: Math/science magnets: MAP-M FARMS %, raw MAP score, national perentile Low FARMs, 232 RIT, 93th percentile Low-moderate FARMs, 230 RIT, 92nd percentile Moderate FARMs, 224 RIT, 84th percentile Moderate-high FARMs, 215 RIT, 65th percentile High FARMs, 213 RIT, 60th percentile Communicaitons magnets: MAP-R FARMS %, raw MAP score, national perentile Low FARMs, 228 RIT, 92nd percentile Low-moderate FARMs, 228 RIT, 92nd percentile Moderate FARMs, 224 RIT, 88th percentile Moderate-high FARMs, 216 RIT, 76th percentile High FARMs, 213 RIT, 70th percentile |