SCOIR Usage

Anonymous
Does your school give you access to this tool? Our school asked us to sign up for it. Then, they told us due to privacy reasons, they won’t be able to provide us the scattergram. I am puzzled to figure out what’s the purpose then? What are we trying to get out of this if no data is provided?
Anonymous
NCS provides access. It is tricky in a small school because kids can be identifiable in some cases. I think there have been other threads on this debate. Other schools do not provide access to the data. GDS does not, and I do not believe STA or Sidwell do either. You can get other information on SCOIR about colleges, and once you have a list your child will use SCOIR to manage the process. But I agree that the scattergrams are most useful.
Anonymous
STA uses naviance and parents and kids could access in CCO but didn’t have access at home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NCS provides access. It is tricky in a small school because kids can be identifiable in some cases. I think there have been other threads on this debate. Other schools do not provide access to the data. GDS does not, and I do not believe STA or Sidwell do either. You can get other information on SCOIR about colleges, and once you have a list your child will use SCOIR to manage the process. But I agree that the scattergrams are most useful.


Thank you!

DD is our first kid. We have no experience with this process. Really trying to figure out from the school’s point of view, what are the schools fit her. Our school policy is that the counselor can share with you via zoom only. Oh well…
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NCS provides access. It is tricky in a small school because kids can be identifiable in some cases. I think there have been other threads on this debate. Other schools do not provide access to the data. GDS does not, and I do not believe STA or Sidwell do either. You can get other information on SCOIR about colleges, and once you have a list your child will use SCOIR to manage the process. But I agree that the scattergrams are most useful.


Thank you!

DD is our first kid. We have no experience with this process. Really trying to figure out from the school’s point of view, what are the schools fit her. Our school policy is that the counselor can share with you via zoom only. Oh well…


Just seeing it through the counselor might actually be way more productive. SCOIR scattergrams are such a time-sucker--easy to spend hours just typing in every school you can think of and probably gives directional info at best since it only looks at GPA and test scores. You have no way of knowing if admitted students were athletes, legacies, etc. Woudn't work well in too small of a school. It doesn't show a scattergram if there haven't been sufficient applications submitted (not sure what the required number of applications it needs to show).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does your school give you access to this tool? Our school asked us to sign up for it. Then, they told us due to privacy reasons, they won’t be able to provide us the scattergram. I am puzzled to figure out what’s the purpose then? What are we trying to get out of this if no data is provided?


More likely parents at your fancy school would have questions about why so few students were accepted to such-and-such school and that would not help the image..
Anonymous
Sidwell gave access to SCOIR (for class of '23) for a window from Spring Jr to Fall Sr year (I do not think they had done this before).

I found it helpful to understand some basic big picture landscape info, while keeping in mind it has lots of limitations.

Even with those limitations, I could compare COVID results vs pre-COVID. It also gave us a general sense of places where TONS of Sidwell kids seemed to apply vs fewer (very interesting for schools that seemed otherwise similar). We also found it to highlight a few schools that seemed to "really like" Sidwell students vs other that "were less favorable" (again - for schools that otherwise seemed similar). You could also breakdown ED/EA/RD if there were enough applicants.

Of course hidden in the numbers is knowing whether acceptances are legacy, athlete etc. There are also far more limitations for small schools (or sub-categories like ED) where not many students have applied and access to data is blocked.

It was also pretty spotty throughout the window - at some the system appeared to be updated and I could not longer see anything (not even in my child's account). But we were beyond a point at which it felt worth reaching out to CCO to inquire about regaining access.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does your school give you access to this tool? Our school asked us to sign up for it. Then, they told us due to privacy reasons, they won’t be able to provide us the scattergram. I am puzzled to figure out what’s the purpose then? What are we trying to get out of this if no data is provided?


More likely parents at your fancy school would have questions about why so few students were accepted to such-and-such school and that would not help the image..


We never mentioned anything about SCOIR profiles (and the success of Sidwell at schools) to the CCO - I'd hate to think other parents would do this to the point that it isn't available as a tool.
Anonymous
Holton gives parents access to scoir.
Anonymous
Flint Hill gives you access to scattergrams. They were the most helpful part for me as a parent, but my student also used it to manage the application process with the school.
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