Middle school boy shot by homeowner "defending cars" in Brookland

Anonymous
WaPo story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/07/shooting-death-juvenile-northeast-dc/

Maybe the boy was trying to break into the cars, maybe not. Either way a terrible tragedy, and even if he was trying to commit a crime 1) he didn't seem to pose a threat to the homeowner and 2) that's no way to deal with juvenile deliquency (while I didn't do anything quite like that at his age I certainly was no saint either and have turned out okay).

His middle school principal gave the following statement: "He was a quiet and inquisitive scholar who loved fashion and football. Although he loved his neighborhood, he loved Brookland MS (the faculty & his peers) and the structure it presented to him even more. He leaves behind his mom and three younger siblings."

Terrible to think that many of you that post here in this forum might have done the same/will probably find a way to blame him.
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Anonymous
How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?


+1

This guy murdered the kid. Why is this dangerous, armed person still walking the streets?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


How did he not break the law? I'm confused.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


How did he not break the law? I'm confused.

Because if he had he’d have been arrested. QED.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


Oh, you were there?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


How did he not break the law? I'm confused.

Because if he had he’d have been arrested. QED.


Or, he hasn't been arrested *yet*.

Also, the police are far from perfect
Anonymous
I don't think the Police have release enough information to determine what is appropriate. What was the confrontation like between the teenager and the homeowner? I'm assuming it was more substantial than "hey what are you doing" which is why there hasn't been an arrest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


Oh, you were there?

No. But the police were there and as a society we rely on them to enforce the law. Are you an expert on DC criminal law? We’re you there? Have you taken statements and conducted an investigation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


How did he not break the law? I'm confused.


The article is clear: "He said detectives are working with prosecutors to determine whether criminal charges are warranted against the man who shot Karon." If there's no flight risk, then I the police and prosecutors should take their time to get this right, rather than rush charges and make mistakes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


How did he not break the law? I'm confused.

Because if he had he’d have been arrested. QED.


Right.... how long did it take for George Floyd's killers to be arrested? Ahmaud Aubrey? Though he ultimately got off, George Zimmerman wasn't brought to trial until more than six weeks, and after large protests, after kiling Trayvon Martin. How simplistic of you to think just because he wasn't arrested right away a crime wasn't committed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


Oh, you were there?

No. But the police were there and as a society we rely on them to enforce the law. Are you an expert on DC criminal law? We’re you there? Have you taken statements and conducted an investigation?


I didn't suggest anything one way or the other because, like you, I don't know any details, including any evidence police are gathering to corroborate the shooter's story.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How has the shooter not been arrested? Are citizens just allowed to execute people on the street that they suspect of property theft?

Because he didn’t break the law.


How did he not break the law? I'm confused.

Because if he had he’d have been arrested. QED.


Right.... how long did it take for George Floyd's killers to be arrested? Ahmaud Aubrey? Though he ultimately got off, George Zimmerman wasn't brought to trial until more than six weeks, and after large protests, after kiling Trayvon Martin. How simplistic of you to think just because he wasn't arrested right away a crime wasn't committed.

If his actions had obviously violated the law he would have been arrested immediately.

There is no duty to retreat to claim self defense in DC and the man has a right to defend his property. Due to the proliferation of gun crimes in the city, there is a strong case to be made that there was concern of imminent damages such that force was necessary and obviously if a gun is proportionate to the perceived risk in that situation where someone is breaking into cars at 4 AM with a strong likelihood that the suspect was armed.
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