Is FCPS getting rid of AAP?

[Anonymous]

What will this look like? What is the timeline?

I know at our school far less kids are getting into the AAP program already. We are at a high SES school and half the kids used to get into AAP. Now only about 1/4 of the kids get into AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will this look like? What is the timeline?

I know at our school far less kids are getting into the AAP program already. We are at a high SES school and half the kids used to get into AAP. Now only about 1/4 of the kids get into AAP.

I thought it was simply the top 15%-20% and all the kids whose parents can afford to fund appeals.

[Anonymous]

God forbid FCPS should try to make AAP accessible to lower SES students instead of making a de facto private school for high SES students. Do you even hear yourself?

[Anonymous]

I think what you’re asking is if they are getting rid of the centers. To that question, I say, please let it be so. Everyone can get services at their base school.

[Anonymous]

Local level iv doesn’t serve the kids who the original center gt program was designed for. They have special needs. FCPS has moved to dilute the program through local programs. They haven’t said they are killing aap but they’re doing it this way.

Several board members consistently rail against serving the needs of these students - Omeish, Andersen, meren and gamarra. Some even dislike young scholars. They only want to serve certain students based on their demographics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Local level iv doesn’t serve the kids who the original center gt program was designed for. They have special needs. FCPS has moved to dilute the program through local programs. They haven’t said they are killing aap but they’re doing it this way.

Several board members consistently rail against serving the needs of these students - Omeish, Andersen, meren and gamarra. Some even dislike young scholars. They only want to serve certain students based on their demographics.

It's what you get with an all-Democrat board. The Democrats who represent or only care about the districts with lower-performing schools want to dumb everything down so their schools look better, and the other Democrats go along despite their reservations because they don't want Anderson, Keys Gamarra, Omeish, or Corbett Sanders attacking them. So you get the combination of no brains and no backbone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Local level iv doesn’t serve the kids who the original center gt program was designed for. They have special needs. FCPS has moved to dilute the program through local programs. They haven’t said they are killing aap but they’re doing it this way.

Several board members consistently rail against serving the needs of these students - Omeish, Andersen, meren and gamarra. Some even dislike young scholars. They only want to serve certain students based on their demographics.

The number of kids that are truly gifted is so low that centers would not be needed or only a few centers with a class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local level iv doesn’t serve the kids who the original center gt program was designed for. They have special needs. FCPS has moved to dilute the program through local programs. They haven’t said they are killing aap but they’re doing it this way.

Several board members consistently rail against serving the needs of these students - Omeish, Andersen, meren and gamarra. Some even dislike young scholars. They only want to serve certain students based on their demographics.

The number of kids that are truly gifted is so low that centers would not be needed or only a few centers with a class.

It was never about giftedness but segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local level iv doesn’t serve the kids who the original center gt program was designed for. They have special needs. FCPS has moved to dilute the program through local programs. They haven’t said they are killing aap but they’re doing it this way.

Several board members consistently rail against serving the needs of these students - Omeish, Andersen, meren and gamarra. Some even dislike young scholars. They only want to serve certain students based on their demographics.

The number of kids that are truly gifted is so low that centers would not be needed or only a few centers with a class.

And that’s what fcps used to have but then they shifted to aap serving much larger numbers (and generating the insane obsession by some parents to “get their kid in”) that wasn’t actually challenging enough to serve the original group of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will this look like? What is the timeline?

I know at our school far less kids are getting into the AAP program already. We are at a high SES school and half the kids used to get into AAP. Now only about 1/4 of the kids get into AAP.

I have a great idea. We can select up to top 10% of each elementary school in the county to participate in the AAP. This way, we give opportunities to all students and not just the wealthy ones. We can increase black and Hispanic students to twice the current level. On top of this, reserve 20% of all the spots for black/Hispanic students to further increase black/Hispanic students and FARMS students.

[Anonymous]

So your “great idea” isn’t based on need for gifted services but representation?

The local norms for screening pool already addresses some underrrepresentation as do local level iv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local level iv doesn’t serve the kids who the original center gt program was designed for. They have special needs. FCPS has moved to dilute the program through local programs. They haven’t said they are killing aap but they’re doing it this way.

Several board members consistently rail against serving the needs of these students - Omeish, Andersen, meren and gamarra. Some even dislike young scholars. They only want to serve certain students based on their demographics.

The number of kids that are truly gifted is so low that centers would not be needed or only a few centers with a class.

And that’s what fcps used to have but then they shifted to aap serving much larger numbers (and generating the insane obsession by some parents to “get their kid in”) that wasn’t actually challenging enough to serve the original group of kids.

How many centers were there previously? How many classes per center?

[Anonymous]

Isn't FCPS starting a few pilot programs within some of their ES to start AAP w/n a student's base school instead of buying them and then having students feed back into their base HS and all of the other logistical things?

So I wouldn't say they're "getting rid" of it, just reorganizing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What will this look like? What is the timeline?

I know at our school far less kids are getting into the AAP program already. We are at a high SES school and half the kids used to get into AAP. Now only about 1/4 of the kids get into AAP.

I have a great idea. We can select up to top 10% of each elementary school in the county to participate in the AAP. This way, we give opportunities to all students and not just the wealthy ones. We can increase black and Hispanic students to twice the current level. On top of this, reserve 20% of all the spots for black/Hispanic students to further increase black/Hispanic students and FARMS students.

Sorta mimics the TJ application process

[Anonymous]

I don't mind them keeping AAP, but FCPS needs desperately to figure out how to help the students who are bright, solid upper-middle performers who didn't make the cut.

Our kids were kept in general ed, and were bored out of their minds for years. Bringing home a math worksheet with five problems, and they have been doing the same unit for five weeks. Getting to middle school was the best thing that happened to our kids because they could finally take some classes that challenged them to think. Grade school was a long slog of boredom.