School Zone pavement markings near Kenmore Middle School / Campbell Elementary

[Anonymous]

Is it just me, or did the county mess this up by placing the word Zone on top of the word School rather than the other way around??? The pavement markings appear on S. Carlin Springs Rd in front of Kenmore and in front of Campbell Elementary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or did the county mess this up by placing the word Zone on top of the word School rather than the other way around??? The pavement markings appear on S. Carlin Springs Rd in front of Kenmore and in front of Campbell Elementary.

Haven't noticed yet, but, will take a look next time I'm driving that way....regardless, the speed limit and overall traffic situation on S Carlin Springs Rd & 5th Road S needs some serious improvement.

[Anonymous]

Does it look like this if you were above it in the air:
Zone
School

That’s how it always is. Because if you’re driving down the road you drive over “school” and read that first and then drive over “zone” and read that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it look like this if you were above it in the air:
Zone
School

That’s how it always is. Because if you’re driving down the road you drive over “school” and read that first and then drive over “zone” and read that.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it look like this if you were above it in the air:
Zone
School

That’s how it always is. Because if you’re driving down the road you drive over “school” and read that first and then drive over “zone” and read that.

This.

Lots of pavement markings are written in the order the driver encounters the words, but often short two-word pavement markings will go from top to bottom, presumably because such a short phrase is seen at one time and not truly encountered one word at a time. The Arlington markings distract me as a massive typo, even if it's entirely intentional. Hopefully they've got something better than just pavement markings planned to address how dangerous that area is for drivers and kids. Watching the kids cross the on-ramp to Rt 50, even with the help of the crossing guard, always makes me nervous, and at dismissal, the kids are spilling out onto the street while traffic blasts by.

[Anonymous]

Noted the markings this morning, and, yes, they are designed to be read from an aerial orientation, so, there is not an error.

Would LOVE some speedbumps on 5th Road S, and my dream would be for S Carlin Springs to be one lane in each direction from Columbia Pike up to 50 with a bike lane on each side to create some measurable degree of a barrier between the road and the sidewalk. We walk my child to his bus stop across S Carlin Springs, and it feels like you are risking your life walking that sidewalk. It will probably only be a matter of time before an unnecessary tragedy, which is terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Noted the markings this morning, and, yes, they are designed to be read from an aerial orientation, so, there is not an error.

Would LOVE some speedbumps on 5th Road S, and my dream would be for S Carlin Springs to be one lane in each direction from Columbia Pike up to 50 with a bike lane on each side to create some measurable degree of a barrier between the road and the sidewalk. We walk my child to his bus stop across S Carlin Springs, and it feels like you are risking your life walking that sidewalk. It will probably only be a matter of time before an unnecessary tragedy, which is terrible.

one lane on Carlin Springs would be a nightmare. Reducing the capacity of a road people complain is too heavily trafficked and backed-up is not a good solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Noted the markings this morning, and, yes, they are designed to be read from an aerial orientation, so, there is not an error.

Would LOVE some speedbumps on 5th Road S, and my dream would be for S Carlin Springs to be one lane in each direction from Columbia Pike up to 50 with a bike lane on each side to create some measurable degree of a barrier between the road and the sidewalk. We walk my child to his bus stop across S Carlin Springs, and it feels like you are risking your life walking that sidewalk. It will probably only be a matter of time before an unnecessary tragedy, which is terrible.

one lane on Carlin Springs would be a nightmare. Reducing the capacity of a road people complain is too heavily trafficked and backed-up is not a good solution.

I understand it may not be popular, but, if I have to pick between a fatality, and people re-routing and using other routes that aren't needing to access the neighborhoods and area schools, I will pick less lanes with people figuring out how to re-route themselves. In the absence of consistent/dedicated enforcement by the police, there needs to be some type of deterrent that enhances the safety on that road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it look like this if you were above it in the air:
Zone
School

That’s how it always is. Because if you’re driving down the road you drive over “school” and read that first and then drive over “zone” and read that.

Yeah, this is how it is. We have a
STOP
BUS
near our neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

One of the most dangerous aspects of the stretch of Carlin Springs Rd in front of Kenmore is the sudden and un-signaled lane shifting that happens when a driver gets caught behind a car trying to make a left turn onto the side street next to the 7-11. They need to do something about that 7-11 intersection. Not sure if it needs a light or to completely forbid the left turn, but it’s a constant hot mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Noted the markings this morning, and, yes, they are designed to be read from an aerial orientation, so, there is not an error.

Would LOVE some speedbumps on 5th Road S, and my dream would be for S Carlin Springs to be one lane in each direction from Columbia Pike up to 50 with a bike lane on each side to create some measurable degree of a barrier between the road and the sidewalk. We walk my child to his bus stop across S Carlin Springs, and it feels like you are risking your life walking that sidewalk. It will probably only be a matter of time before an unnecessary tragedy, which is terrible.

one lane on Carlin Springs would be a nightmare. Reducing the capacity of a road people complain is too heavily trafficked and backed-up is not a good solution.

I understand it may not be popular, but, if I have to pick between a fatality, and people re-routing and using other routes that aren't needing to access the neighborhoods and area schools, I will pick less lanes with people figuring out how to re-route themselves. In the absence of consistent/dedicated enforcement by the police, there needs to be some type of deterrent that enhances the safety on that road.

What alternative routes do you propose for people taking Carlin Springs from the Pike to 50? or Route 7 to 50? Meanwhile everyone living in Glencarlyn can keep using Carlin Springs to get out of the neighborhood and go in either direction whenever they want, while other neighborhoods get more jammed up with the re-routed traffic. All of the major roads in Arlington cannot be one lane each way with bike and pedestrian lanes. Major arteries are major arteries and Carlin Springs happens to be a fairly major artery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Noted the markings this morning, and, yes, they are designed to be read from an aerial orientation, so, there is not an error.

Would LOVE some speedbumps on 5th Road S, and my dream would be for S Carlin Springs to be one lane in each direction from Columbia Pike up to 50 with a bike lane on each side to create some measurable degree of a barrier between the road and the sidewalk. We walk my child to his bus stop across S Carlin Springs, and it feels like you are risking your life walking that sidewalk. It will probably only be a matter of time before an unnecessary tragedy, which is terrible.

one lane on Carlin Springs would be a nightmare. Reducing the capacity of a road people complain is too heavily trafficked and backed-up is not a good solution.

I understand it may not be popular, but, if I have to pick between a fatality, and people re-routing and using other routes that aren't needing to access the neighborhoods and area schools, I will pick less lanes with people figuring out how to re-route themselves. In the absence of consistent/dedicated enforcement by the police, there needs to be some type of deterrent that enhances the safety on that road.

What alternative routes do you propose for people taking Carlin Springs from the Pike to 50? or Route 7 to 50? Meanwhile everyone living in Glencarlyn can keep using Carlin Springs to get out of the neighborhood and go in either direction whenever they want, while other neighborhoods get more jammed up with the re-routed traffic. All of the major roads in Arlington cannot be one lane each way with bike and pedestrian lanes. Major arteries are major arteries and Carlin Springs happens to be a fairly major artery.

There's plenty of primary roads around Arlington that are single lane in each direction. Try walking a child along the sidewalk on S Carlin Springs, and then get back to me. Your life really flashes before you when busses whiz by.

[Anonymous]

The lanes are also very narrow /tight on this stretch of Carlin Springs. If it were light traffic it would be fine, but given the volume and overall recklessness of the traffic roaring through this stretch, it’s pretty bad. I’ve had kids casually step off the sidewalk onto the street in front of my car at Kenmore’s dismissal time simply because they’re walking in a group and they spill over. The kids deserve a safer environment around their school.

[Anonymous]

I agree it’s an accident waiting to happen the way it is now. If they restriped it with bike lanes, a lane in each direction, and a center turn lane, I don’t think it would be much worse. Wilson Blvd between Seven Corners and Ballston isn’t bad now that it’s down to one lane, even though it took them a few configurations to get it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Noted the markings this morning, and, yes, they are designed to be read from an aerial orientation, so, there is not an error.

Would LOVE some speedbumps on 5th Road S, and my dream would be for S Carlin Springs to be one lane in each direction from Columbia Pike up to 50 with a bike lane on each side to create some measurable degree of a barrier between the road and the sidewalk. We walk my child to his bus stop across S Carlin Springs, and it feels like you are risking your life walking that sidewalk. It will probably only be a matter of time before an unnecessary tragedy, which is terrible.

one lane on Carlin Springs would be a nightmare. Reducing the capacity of a road people complain is too heavily trafficked and backed-up is not a good solution.

I understand it may not be popular, but, if I have to pick between a fatality, and people re-routing and using other routes that aren't needing to access the neighborhoods and area schools, I will pick less lanes with people figuring out how to re-route themselves. In the absence of consistent/dedicated enforcement by the police, there needs to be some type of deterrent that enhances the safety on that road.

What alternative routes do you propose for people taking Carlin Springs from the Pike to 50? or Route 7 to 50? Meanwhile everyone living in Glencarlyn can keep using Carlin Springs to get out of the neighborhood and go in either direction whenever they want, while other neighborhoods get more jammed up with the re-routed traffic. All of the major roads in Arlington cannot be one lane each way with bike and pedestrian lanes. Major arteries are major arteries and Carlin Springs happens to be a fairly major artery.

There's plenty of primary roads around Arlington that are single lane in each direction. Try walking a child along the sidewalk on S Carlin Springs, and then get back to me. Your life really flashes before you when busses whiz by.

Walter Reed, Glebe, Columbia Pike, George Mason, Four Mile Run, Arlington Blvd, Langston Blvd, Washington and Wilson -- primary roads; maybe single lane in small segments? But I don't believe any are generally single lane in each direction?
Please list the "plenty of primary roads around Arlington that are single lane in each direction?" Perhaps we have a different definition of "primary road."

Walking in the street is a problem period, and part of it is just narcissistic behavior/obliviousness to others. Adults and kids alike walk in the streets even when there are sidewalks and nobody else on them.
Sidewalks in most places are narrow and it's often difficult for even two people to walk side-by-side. That doesn't excuse a group of kids from spilling over into the road rather than walking behind each other. That's is NOT to say that the County shouldn't make reasonable efforts to maximize pedestrian safety ... balanced with vehicular safety and minimizing traffic congestion.
Regardless,