Bachelor in Paradise: thoughts on Victoria, Johnny, Greg situation

[Anonymous]

Curious for those of you that fry your brain like me with The Bachelor franchise who people believe - Victoria or Greg? I found the degree of he said/she said surprising considering how good natured they both seemed on the show.

[Anonymous]

She is a piece of work for sure, but I think he wasn't straight forward about his work situation (owned a bar, then managed a bar, then she finds out the bar has closed...) and it threw up red flags/a wall for her. I thought Greg was a dork on the Bachelorette so totally surprised about this match up and/or he must have had a weird edit on the show. Overall, I'm team Johnny. All the guys (and girls from the reunion) seem to be on his side. It was clear that Tyler knew something and wasn't saying it! Odd this his ex also went to Europe after taping like Victoria.

[Anonymous]

Victoria cheated on Johnny with Greg but I don't know how real these engagements really are vs they are really still dating and getting to know each other.

Victoria is in the wrong - cheater is always in the wrong no matter what the state of the relationship was.

It is reality tv and transitioning that to real life is usually messy.

I agree that Victoria and Greg are a bizarre match!

[Anonymous]

I was never a fan of Victoria. She seems like a piece of work -- the kind that always brings drama and is not a nice person.

I didn' t watch Paradise for the first time in years, but I've listened to Reality Steve so I know what was happening. I listened to Nick Viall's podcast interview of Victoria and Greg while I was walking this week. (desperate times!).

I have to say that she won me over. I don't think she cheated. There is no evidence of that. She admitted to enough bad behavior on her part, that she was believable. I think Johnny is a horrible person (in regards to how he speaks to women). He may not be a horrible person in other regards. Victoria was done with Johnny (and told him so) before she got with Greg. It was pretty quick. Victoria is no angle. I wouldn't want her as a friend b/c she's too crass for me. But, I do believe her. And If Greg likes her and they get along... then best wishes.

Johnny just wouldn't take the message that she was sending and he wanted to save face.

[Anonymous]

I think all three are no one I'd want to date or fix someone else up with, but super surprised how many people think it's normal relationship behavior to call their partner a c#$t in an argument. Not one of my boyfriends and now husband has ever called me a profane name during a fight, and some were pretty heated. It's an weird normalization. So Johnny - no thank you.