Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

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Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.

The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.

The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.

Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)

Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.

That IS ICE’s job.

You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?

From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers

Mmmkay. Sure, Jan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?

Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.

Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?

It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.

Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.

Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.

Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..

Apparently jaywalking gets a death sentence now?

Again how does being in the road justify assault, let alone killing.

We've watched the videos, hanging in "they were jn the road" to justify murder is some of the most pathetic bootlicking I've seen. You keep flailing around for a justification and failing.

Keep in mind this is probably the tenth justification they’ve thrown out. We’ve gone from accusing him of coming at the agents with a gun to he was standing in the road briefly.

They keep sharing easily refutable lies. Just a firehose of shit.

The "firehose of shit" is intentional and seems to be working right now with the MAGA base. The theory is that if you repeat the same lies over and over again with a straight face, people will accept them. But it can't last forever. The mirage will break at some point. But some more innocent people will die in the process.

Yes, but they are a minority and now we know that they are toothless blowhards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.

The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.

The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.

Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)

Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.

That IS ICE’s job.

You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?

From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers

Nope...an "administrative warrant" is not the same as a "judicial warrant" - different thresholds. And THAT is part of the problem with MAGA not understanding how this is supposed to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.

The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.

The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.

Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)

Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.

That IS ICE’s job.

You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?

From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers

You're saying that they're that so incompetent that six guys can't handle a nurse without killing him? That they're just THAT bad at law enforcement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?

Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.

Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?

It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.

Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.

Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.

Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..

According to Noem, he came at agents with his gun. Are you calling her a liar?

LOL. 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.

The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.

The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.

Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)

Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.

That IS ICE’s job.

You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?

From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers

They had an actual judicial warrant?

If this isn't a bald-faced lie, surely it would be easy to identify the judge. Or are your fingers crossed behind your back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Speaks for itself.

I hope this photo goes viral. Horrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?

Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.

Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?

It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.

Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.

Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.

Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..

According to Noem, he came at agents with his gun. Are you calling her a liar?

It is pretty clear that he never did this and yes, she is a liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.

The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.

The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.

Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)

Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.

That IS ICE’s job.

You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?

From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers

Mmmkay. Sure, Jan.

I mean it also doesn't matter. My sibling is a prosecutor who was at a homicide scene (this is standard, they have a prosecutor in to make quick legal decisions like jurisdiction calls) that got rushed. It was chaotic but you know what happened, the police in fact did not shoot anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.

Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.

There “protestors” are rioting because they want open borders and the abolishment of immigration laws. We all saw what their preferred policies bring to the country during the four years of Biden’s regime. No thank you!

You are completely out of touch with reality. Are you even posting from the USA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.

The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.

The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.

Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)

Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.

That IS ICE’s job.

You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?

From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers

How exactly did he interfere? Let’s think this through…

He was killed in front of what looks like a storefront. Was he standing in front of this alleged criminal’s front door?

WTF you ghouls will believe any convenient lie. How about you use your brain today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?

Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.

Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?

It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.

Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.

Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.

Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..

According to Noem, he came at agents with his gun. Are you calling her a liar?

Is this a serious question?

She’s a liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the people defending ICE, here is a link for a frame by frame rundown of what actually happened yesterday

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/01/25/minneapolis-shooting-video-gun/

Please read/watch this, and then come back and tell us how this was all perfectly normal, legal and justifiable.

(and note, this is on the Oligarch Bezos platform, not some fringe left wing rag)

And notice that article mentions an earlier video?

Early Saturday morning, bystanders gathered to protest the DHS operation, some blowing whistles to warn residents of the agents’ presence and others recording. One video, filmed from a passing car, shows Pretti in the street, speaking to officers and filming them with his phone. He is not holding a gun in either hand. An officer moves him back toward the sidewalk. It is not clear how the interaction began or what words were exchanged.
A second video, filmed a short time later, shows Pretti on the same block. He walks toward the officers, still appearing to film with his phone in his right hand and not holding a gun. The audio does not pick up what was said between Pretti and the officer. One of the officers pushes a person who appears to be a bystander or protester down onto the sidewalk.

[Anonymous]

BARTIROMO: There is outrage across the country that there is another killing. Someone is dead at the hands of Border Patrol. What can you tell us?

KASH PATEL: You do not get to attack law enforcement officials in this country without any repercussions. We not messing around.


Ryan Goodman:

Federal judges will be watching this.

Head of the FBI commenting publicly on the Alex Pretti shooting and with prejudicial statements that show flagrant bias.