Athletic Ivy

[Anonymous]

"Among white students admitted to Harvard, 54% are athletes+legacy+dean's list+faculty/staff children (column 2). Just 10% is regular admission

Big athletic school, Harvard..."

Just read this and feeling injustice is real. How bad is it at other T20?

[Anonymous]

What are the other 36%?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the other 36%?

Lottery...they just draw out of a hat.

[Anonymous]

Some people like sports.

[Anonymous]

Injustice?

[Anonymous]

Link? Column 2 of what?

[Anonymous]

Is it really an "injustice"? Are private institutions obligated to admit students based on a academic merit alone? I take it you are not a sports fan.

[Anonymous]

Not quite sure what the point of this thread is. Harvard has an enormous athletics program. So does Stanford. So do many other schools. Where there is a big athletic program, there are lots of athletes.

[Anonymous]

I attended an Ivy (though not Harvard) and counted plenty of athletes among my friends. I assure you that the overwhelming majority of them were phenomenal students in addition to being talented athletes. Outside of luring some top football and basketball recruits, top colleges do not generally have to lower their admission standards much, if at all, to bring in athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I attended an Ivy (though not Harvard) and counted plenty of athletes among my friends. I assure you that the overwhelming majority of them were phenomenal students in addition to being talented athletes. Outside of luring some top football and basketball recruits, top colleges do not generally have to lower their admission standards much, if at all, to bring in athletes.

But why this worship of sports as opposed to other talents? It makes no sense and only is this country is it a thing. But a thing it is so, oh well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I attended an Ivy (though not Harvard) and counted plenty of athletes among my friends. I assure you that the overwhelming majority of them were phenomenal students in addition to being talented athletes. Outside of luring some top football and basketball recruits, top colleges do not generally have to lower their admission standards much, if at all, to bring in athletes.

I went to an Ivy and wasn’t a jock sniffer and I can say that they do lower admissions standards quite substantially for athletes in all sports.

[Anonymous]

Believe it or not, some kids can be athletes, artists, athletes, musicians AND strong students.

Please don't put the athletic admits into a box of being dumb jocks. At places like IVYs and NESCAC, these are generally incredibly multi-talented kids. That is why they are accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I attended an Ivy (though not Harvard) and counted plenty of athletes among my friends. I assure you that the overwhelming majority of them were phenomenal students in addition to being talented athletes. Outside of luring some top football and basketball recruits, top colleges do not generally have to lower their admission standards much, if at all, to bring in athletes.

I went to an Ivy and wasn’t a jock sniffer and I can say that they do lower admissions standards quite substantially for athletes in all sports.

Jock sniffer, eh? Thanks for proving that even an education cannot instill class in some people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I attended an Ivy (though not Harvard) and counted plenty of athletes among my friends. I assure you that the overwhelming majority of them were phenomenal students in addition to being talented athletes. Outside of luring some top football and basketball recruits, top colleges do not generally have to lower their admission standards much, if at all, to bring in athletes.

But why this worship of sports as opposed to other talents? It makes no sense and only is this country is it a thing. But a thing it is so, oh well.

They do care about the arts but people don’t talk about it because people assume artists are smart and athletes are stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I attended an Ivy (though not Harvard) and counted plenty of athletes among my friends. I assure you that the overwhelming majority of them were phenomenal students in addition to being talented athletes. Outside of luring some top football and basketball recruits, top colleges do not generally have to lower their admission standards much, if at all, to bring in athletes.

But why this worship of sports as opposed to other talents? It makes no sense and only is this country is it a thing. But a thing it is so, oh well.

What makes you think that other talents are necessarily ignored? It's not a coincidence that schools like Harvard are able to maintain an orchestra in addition to a baseball team. Musical talent is rewarded as well when it comes to admissions.