No foreign language requirement

Anonymous
My searching skills are failing me. Please humor me.

Are there any public universities in Virginia that don't require a foreign language in high school and that would accept a mediocre student? I am having a horrible time trying to find a list. DS is just staring high school so I'm not up to speed on how one researches college opportunities these days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My searching skills are failing me. Please humor me.

Are there any public universities in Virginia that don't require a foreign language in high school and that would accept a mediocre student? I am having a horrible time trying to find a list. DS is just staring high school so I'm not up to speed on how one researches college opportunities these days.


Tell your kid to take a foreign language. Come on now.
Anonymous
If you're child has a language waiver, then they won't require it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My searching skills are failing me. Please humor me.

Are there any public universities in Virginia that don't require a foreign language in high school and that would accept a mediocre student? I am having a horrible time trying to find a list. DS is just staring high school so I'm not up to speed on how one researches college opportunities these days.


Tell your kid to take a foreign language. Come on now.


It could be that the OP's child has a learning disability that makes learning a foreign language especially difficult. A one-size-fits-all approach won't work well for such a kid.

https://www.ldonline.org/ld-topics/teaching-instruction/learning-disabilities-and-foreign-language-learning
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My searching skills are failing me. Please humor me.

Are there any public universities in Virginia that don't require a foreign language in high school and that would accept a mediocre student? I am having a horrible time trying to find a list. DS is just staring high school so I'm not up to speed on how one researches college opportunities these days.


Tell your kid to take a foreign language. Come on now.


It could be that the OP's child has a learning disability that makes learning a foreign language especially difficult. A one-size-fits-all approach won't work well for such a kid.

https://www.ldonline.org/ld-topics/teaching-instruction/learning-disabilities-and-foreign-language-learning

Dyslexia (and other special needs issues) and a foreign language are proving not to mix well. School is advising he drop the class, and say he doesn't need it to graduate. I have no idea what a waiver is or how to get it. But I also can't seem to find a list of public schools for a kid who will be nowhere near the top of his class that don't require a language.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you're child has a language waiver, then they won't require it.



But those waivers can be difficult to get. My autistic child had filed with GMU's disability office but was not granted the waiver. FWIW, here are the GMU rules. "Students pursuing a BA degree in the College of Humanities and Social Sciences or the College of Science must demonstrate intermediate-level proficiency in one foreign language". At UVA, it's more strict. The disabled child/adult must actually try to take the foreign language class and fail - only then can the two-year requirement be waived (that was as of six years ago - that policy may have changed). Most guaranteed transfer programs from NVCC also look for a foreign language. Here are William & Mary's rules for that: Note: Unless students have completed the fourth level in high school of a single foreign language, or demonstrated proficiency through SAT II subject tests by achieving the minimum score required to grant college credit, they must satisfactorily complete a fourth-semester course (202 level) in college.

OP, I think you are going to have to call each school and ask and also talk to disability services. If there is a language requirement and you are going to seek a waiver you will have to file with disability services after acceptance but before arrival. Both of my children were required to do that. In the case of GMU, our most recent testing was three years old so DC had to do the expensive neuropsych testing all over again for submission to GMU and only then would they offer accommodations, which did not include waiver of the foreign language requirement. We had to get her a tutor to help her independently get through those courses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My searching skills are failing me. Please humor me.

Are there any public universities in Virginia that don't require a foreign language in high school and that would accept a mediocre student? I am having a horrible time trying to find a list. DS is just staring high school so I'm not up to speed on how one researches college opportunities these days.


Tell your kid to take a foreign language. Come on now.


It could be that the OP's child has a learning disability that makes learning a foreign language especially difficult. A one-size-fits-all approach won't work well for such a kid.

https://www.ldonline.org/ld-topics/teaching-instruction/learning-disabilities-and-foreign-language-learning

Dyslexia (and other special needs issues) and a foreign language are proving not to mix well. School is advising he drop the class, and say he doesn't need it to graduate. I have no idea what a waiver is or how to get it. But I also can't seem to find a list of public schools for a kid who will be nowhere near the top of his class that don't require a language.


Is American Sign Language offered? That’s what my LD student is doing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you're child has a language waiver, then they won't require it.



But those waivers can be difficult to get. My autistic child had filed with GMU's disability office but was not granted the waiver. FWIW, here are the GMU rules. "Students pursuing a BA degree in the College of Humanities and Social Sciences or the College of Science must demonstrate intermediate-level proficiency in one foreign language". At UVA, it's more strict. The disabled child/adult must actually try to take the foreign language class and fail - only then can the two-year requirement be waived (that was as of six years ago - that policy may have changed). Most guaranteed transfer programs from NVCC also look for a foreign language. Here are William & Mary's rules for that: Note: Unless students have completed the fourth level in high school of a single foreign language, or demonstrated proficiency through SAT II subject tests by achieving the minimum score required to grant college credit, they must satisfactorily complete a fourth-semester course (202 level) in college.

OP, I think you are going to have to call each school and ask and also talk to disability services. If there is a language requirement and you are going to seek a waiver you will have to file with disability services after acceptance but before arrival. Both of my children were required to do that. In the case of GMU, our most recent testing was three years old so DC had to do the expensive neuropsych testing all over again for submission to GMU and only then would they offer accommodations, which did not include waiver of the foreign language requirement. We had to get her a tutor to help her independently get through those courses.


The first step is getting a language waiver in high school based on psych testing, then be admitted to college. The OP's child is just entering high school. My high school student has a language waiver. He can apply to any college he wants. They may require him to take language in college or not, depending on the school and program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you're child has a language waiver, then they won't require it.



But those waivers can be difficult to get. My autistic child had filed with GMU's disability office but was not granted the waiver. FWIW, here are the GMU rules. "Students pursuing a BA degree in the College of Humanities and Social Sciences or the College of Science must demonstrate intermediate-level proficiency in one foreign language". At UVA, it's more strict. The disabled child/adult must actually try to take the foreign language class and fail - only then can the two-year requirement be waived (that was as of six years ago - that policy may have changed). Most guaranteed transfer programs from NVCC also look for a foreign language. Here are William & Mary's rules for that: Note: Unless students have completed the fourth level in high school of a single foreign language, or demonstrated proficiency through SAT II subject tests by achieving the minimum score required to grant college credit, they must satisfactorily complete a fourth-semester course (202 level) in college.

OP, I think you are going to have to call each school and ask and also talk to disability services. If there is a language requirement and you are going to seek a waiver you will have to file with disability services after acceptance but before arrival. Both of my children were required to do that. In the case of GMU, our most recent testing was three years old so DC had to do the expensive neuropsych testing all over again for submission to GMU and only then would they offer accommodations, which did not include waiver of the foreign language requirement. We had to get her a tutor to help her independently get through those courses.


The first step is getting a language waiver in high school based on psych testing, then be admitted to college. The OP's child is just entering high school. My high school student has a language waiver. He can apply to any college he wants. They may require him to take language in college or not, depending on the school and program.



You are correct. I read OP's post too fast. I thought she was asking about waivers at the college level, which we struggled with.
Anonymous
this is why I am encouraging my child to get the BS rather than BA offered in the program she is considering at Radford. The BS doesn't require foreign language.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:this is why I am encouraging my child to get the BS rather than BA offered in the program she is considering at Radford. The BS doesn't require foreign language.

OP here -- and sorry if I was unclear in my original query. Is this a "graduate from college" or a "get accepted to Radford" requirement? The admission requirements on their site recommends 3-4 years of a foreign language.
Anonymous
From what I read, many of the VA colleges (which are centrally managed through SCHEV) require foreign languages for BA programs and not for BS programs (including BS in Business)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here -- and sorry if I was unclear in my original query. Is this a "graduate from college" or a "get accepted to Radford" requirement? The admission requirements on their site recommends 3-4 years of a foreign language.


Sorry, 12:22 here and not the person you are quoting. I was referencing that foreign languages are required to graduate in some degree programs. Regarding Admissions, I think that UVA requires 2 years for applying to the College of Arts and sciences, and but other schools in VA, including Virginia Tech and William and Mary, urge but do not explicitly foreign language studies for admissions. I would suggest that if your kid is not taking a foreign language, then the space in the schedule should be filled with a replacement class of some educational value and of interest to your kid.
Anonymous
But if your child has a language waiver, they will not require you to have taken language to be admitted. They don't expect kids with a language waiver to take language anyway. The idea is its a waiver due to the disability.
Anonymous
You can take sign language in HS.

Most colleges don't "require" HS foreign lang. for admisdion purposes. But, it really depends on the degree/major whether foreign language is required to graduate from any particular college. At UMW, 4 yrs of HS foreign language or three semesters of college foreign lang (or through Foreign Lang 201 -- you might get credit for 101 and 102 if you took some HS foreign lang) is required for all degrees, regardless of whether you get a BA or BS degree (including computer science). BUT, if you go to GMU, foreign lang is not required in the engineering and com sci degrees, but is required for humanities. So it varies by institution and then by program/major.
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