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Yeah, no. You sound like a teenager. The NYT publishes dozens of stories a day. And I can name all the major mistakes they’ve made in the last decade on one hand. Are they infallible? Not even close. But they are good, their journalists are serious and getting book deals doesn’t change that (these are writers, after all, they want book deals). They are one of the best papers in the world. But yes, they screwed this one up royally. I can’t quite figure it out. And I’m sure she’s been put on ice. But they aren’t necessarily going to publicize that. |
You don’t sack your main witness in a 250M lawsuit you’re defending. Use your brain. |
I agree, the Maggie Haberman Trump book, where she held back material from contemporaneous reporting to include her book another example. Access journalism all the time. |
An influencer pointed out something I had never realized. The release date for Deadpool was announced the same day Blake sent the 17 pt nonnegotiable list to wayfarer. It’s pretty well known that Blake and Ryan were going for the barbenheimer effect and that Blake ended up moving the release date for iewu to be closer to the release date for Wolverine.
This is really suspicious because almost all of Blake’s complaints on set happened during just two days of filming (which hardly seems to meet the standard of “pervasive”) before the strike. Blake raised her issues to Sony, Justin apologized and everyone moved on, or so JB thought. During the strike, Blake kept asking for access to the dailies and JB denied her. All of a sudden 6 mos later she presents the 17 pt list on the same day the Deadpool release date was announced. Imo during that six month period, Blake and Ryan were strategizing about how they wanted to promote the movie and they saw JB as a problem because he had been pushing back on Blake’s demands. So she needed to find a way to wrest control from him. Voila, the 17 pt list appears. |
omg you have cracked the whole thing wide open! |
The Molly PR guru pointed this out months and months ago as having Ryan's fingerprints all over it. |
I thought that some of the issues from the 17 point list happened during the time that Baldoni was filming other people besides Lively, like forcing unexpected climaxing acting on Ferrer playing an underage character? And that Lively brought the list up when she did because the strike had just ended, which would mean they could expect to return to work, which she didn’t want to do without an agreement in place that would stop the same harassing behavior from continuing.
But, sure, I’m sure the fact that the Deadpool release was announced on the same day indicates there was some malevolent plan, right? Note that this was not the first time the Deadpool movie release date had been announced — the date had moved around a few times by then due to the strikes etc. Here is what the Deadpool Wikipedia page says: “The film was originally announced with a release date of September 6, 2024, before it was pushed back to November 8 to accommodate other MCU film delays. Its release was then moved forward to May 3 of that year when Disney adjusted its release calendar due to the WGA strike, before settling on the July 2024 date after the SAG-AFTRA strike ended.” In other words, the movie was always expected to be released within a few months of the July 2024 date finally settled on, either earlier or later, basically at Disney’s whim. |
This. The 17 point list happened because the strike had ended and they were headed back to set. Blake has evidence if both how miserable she was during filming pre-strike and how much she was dreading returning to the set (texts with friends talking about all the on set behavior and how she would go home crying, texts to other actress on production discussing how much she was dreading going back). So all evidence points to Blake creating the 17 point list in an effort to protect herself and others on the set from what she viewed as inappropriate and harmful behavior. But sure, let's invent a parallel theory based on literally nothing about how it was really about Ryan masterminding a theft of the movie so that, um, something something about Deadpool/wolverine [gestures wildly, nods emphatically, no logical points made]. |
Dp, but her post is no more based on conjecture than yours. |
Prior to the strike, Blake complained about three things: the sexy comment, the birthing video and Heath looking at her in her trailer. There was no mention of simulated nudity during the birthing scene, gratuitous kissing during the dance scene, pornography, young Lily (had they even met?) or anything else that was added later. What happened during the strike? We know from Baldoni’s emails and texts she had been asking for access to things and even had her manager reach out, but Baldoni had said she’d have to wait. We also know the new date for Deadpool was announced. How does Blake go from three grievances that she raised right away to an entire laundry list of grievances? The birthing scene is most suspicious, particularly since her supporters feel it’s the strongest of her claims. Why is it that she complained about heath’s video back in May but didn’t complain about the scene itself until months later. Something she’d never mentioned before ends up in her complaint as pressure to simulate nudity. She also claims she was only wearing “a thin piece of cloth” which multiple people have debunked. Could it be that her lawyers told her that her list lacked teeth and she needed more? It’s also interesting that before the strike, her only grievance about Baldoni was the sexy comment and all the others were about Heath. Then after the strike JB became her focus. Why? Because he’s the one she needed to sideline. |
Sure, sure. One is based on allegations in the complaint, while the other is based on … the tides, maybe? ![]() It’s beautiful today. Go outside, lol. |
This is not accurate. - She complained about Justin asking her trainer for her weight - She complained about Justin's behavior in her trailer when he came to talk to her about wardrobe - She objected to Justin and Jamey about them wanting her to do the birth scene topless, to the point where Justin felt the need to ask Jamey to show her the birth video the next day, to show her an example of a woman giving birth nude (which is beside the point, but that's how hung up they were on it) - She complained after the dance scene and alleges that Justin defended himself by saying he wasn't even attracted to her. That's in addition to her complaining about the sexy comment, the birth video itself, and Heath coming into her trailer. And this is over the course of just a couple weeks. Justin/Wayfarer were very aware of Blake's objections well in advance of the 17 point list. It's just they believed their apologies were sufficient and did not think she was still upset about it. This is an organizational/HR failure. Had Wayfarer involved HR early on, kept track of these issues, and conducted some kind of investigation, they could have resolved the dispute and closed the door on it. By handling it in an "as hoc" way and not involving their HR team, they failed to recognize the issue was not resolved for Blake or, potentially, for other women on set. This is why companies should have procedures for handling these kinds of issues and a way to formally interview, investigate, and resolve them. This was an own goal. |
And all of that corresponds with the timeline Ryan gets back to New York from Australia. Maybe he saw her sort of pathetic, not funny, flirty texts and went nuts (he knows she cheats with coworkers) but I would not discount his involvement with this whole saga and him returning to NYC is when there is a noted shift in tone towards Baldoni. |
There was no "shift in tone." Lively has been complaining about Baldoni's behavior since before the movie even started filming. Her texts are not "flirty" -- she was trying to keep it light to preserve on screen chemistry and their working relationship, something she notes in a text to another actress during the first few weeks of filming. But she was complaining about Justin in April of 2023, continued to complain about specific incidents throughout the first few weeks of filming, and when the 17 pt list was presented, there were only a couple things on it that Wayfarer truly had no notice of (there's no indication she'd previously complained about the discussions of porn/sexual experience on set, or that she'd raised the issue if Justin repeatedly mentioning talking to her dead father). The bulk of the allegations were not new. Wayfarer was just unaware she was still bothered by them or viewed them as escalating bad behavior, because Wayfarer had negligently failed to bring HR in to investigate the claims and resolve any issues. |