Roy Moore the Pedophile

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Why wasn't he ever charged for all these years?

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jsteele wrote:The lawyer for one of the victims has released the following statement:

http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/11/one_of_roy_moores_accusers_roy.html

On behalf of Gloria Deason, please accept this additional statement on her behalf:

This statement is being given due to the public falsehoods and defamatory remarks being made by Roy Moore, many Alabama Republican officeholders and leaders, and Steve Bannon, regarding the motivations of Ms. Deason in describing her former relationship with Moore. She did not seek public exposure on the events described in The Washington Post article. She was contacted by the Post reporters several weeks ago. After careful consideration, and fully understanding that her character and veracity would be viciously attacked, she nonetheless agreed to go on the record and tell the truth.

Ms. Deason confirms that the The Post accurately reported the substance of her interviews with them. She does not know the other women named in the article. She is no longer a resident of Alabama. She is a registered Republican, but has no affiliation with the RNC and has not been contacted by the RNC or any Republican leaders at any time. The same is true for the DNC and Democratic leaders. She does not know Doug Jones, has not been contacted at any point by him or anyone associated with his campaign nor made any financial contributions to him.

There is nothing about being public regarding her relationship with Roy Moore that will enhance Ms. Deason's life. She did not seek the limelight. No glory, no financial compensation, no justice. But she stands firmly on the truth. No one can take that away from her. No one.

And Roy Moore knows the truth. Notably, he has not denied knowing Ms. Deason, or pursuing and dating her when she was 18 and he was in his mid-thirties. He has not denied plying her with alcohol knowing in his position as a district attorney that she was younger than the legal drinking age. He has not given a press conference or opened himself up to questions on his relationship with Ms. Deason or the other women named in the article. He appears to be in hiding while issuing incendiary statements about the women, calling them "evil" and accusing them of bribery and conspiracy with the DNC. He has also sent emails to his supporters using this as a reason to request more financial contributions for his campaign.

It is reprehensible that so many Alabama Republican officeholders and leaders of their party have rejected wholesale the magnitude of evidence reported in The Post. Worse yet, they claim that even if they believed the statements of pedophilia and sexual assault, specifically against Leigh Corfman (the 14 year old), to be true, they don't find it to be illegal or immoral conduct by Moore. A 14 year old cannot legally give consent for sex. In short, these leaders don't care. This is a stunning admission that the GOP is not a party of family values, certainly not in Alabama. And Steve Bannon's ridiculous statement that Moore's misconduct is akin to "locker room talk" deserves no response. It fails on its face.

For those critical of these 4 women for not voluntarily coming forward earlier, ask yourselves what difference it would have made. Republicans in Alabama, the Christian conservatives of the Deep South, are saying that they don't care if Roy Moore's predatory sexual child pursuits are true. It's no big deal to them that Moore abused his position of power as a district attorney and committed crimes against teenage women.

And?

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Anonymous wrote:Why wasn't he ever charged for all these years?

Well, most women do not come out and charge their harassers or molesters, for any number of complex reasons. Especially if it involved trying to accuse someone in power, who is directly connected to the law as Roy Moore was. And especially in decades past when people were much more likely to excuse male behavior. Luckily we're entering a point where women are feeling empowered to go public with their stories of harassment and assault.

Ask among your friends who has been molested or attacked in the past and whether they kept it to themselves or tried to press charges and why or why not. That will give you some idea.

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jsteele wrote:The lawyer for one of the victims has released the following statement:

http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/11/one_of_roy_moores_accusers_roy.html

On behalf of Gloria Deason, please accept this additional statement on her behalf:

This statement is being given due to the public falsehoods and defamatory remarks being made by Roy Moore, many Alabama Republican officeholders and leaders, and Steve Bannon, regarding the motivations of Ms. Deason in describing her former relationship with Moore. She did not seek public exposure on the events described in The Washington Post article. She was contacted by the Post reporters several weeks ago. After careful consideration, and fully understanding that her character and veracity would be viciously attacked, she nonetheless agreed to go on the record and tell the truth.

Ms. Deason confirms that the The Post accurately reported the substance of her interviews with them. She does not know the other women named in the article. She is no longer a resident of Alabama. She is a registered Republican, but has no affiliation with the RNC and has not been contacted by the RNC or any Republican leaders at any time. The same is true for the DNC and Democratic leaders. She does not know Doug Jones, has not been contacted at any point by him or anyone associated with his campaign nor made any financial contributions to him.

There is nothing about being public regarding her relationship with Roy Moore that will enhance Ms. Deason's life. She did not seek the limelight. No glory, no financial compensation, no justice. But she stands firmly on the truth. No one can take that away from her. No one.

And Roy Moore knows the truth. Notably, he has not denied knowing Ms. Deason, or pursuing and dating her when she was 18 and he was in his mid-thirties. He has not denied plying her with alcohol knowing in his position as a district attorney that she was younger than the legal drinking age. He has not given a press conference or opened himself up to questions on his relationship with Ms. Deason or the other women named in the article. He appears to be in hiding while issuing incendiary statements about the women, calling them "evil" and accusing them of bribery and conspiracy with the DNC. He has also sent emails to his supporters using this as a reason to request more financial contributions for his campaign.

It is reprehensible that so many Alabama Republican officeholders and leaders of their party have rejected wholesale the magnitude of evidence reported in The Post. Worse yet, they claim that even if they believed the statements of pedophilia and sexual assault, specifically against Leigh Corfman (the 14 year old), to be true, they don't find it to be illegal or immoral conduct by Moore. A 14 year old cannot legally give consent for sex. In short, these leaders don't care. This is a stunning admission that the GOP is not a party of family values, certainly not in Alabama. And Steve Bannon's ridiculous statement that Moore's misconduct is akin to "locker room talk" deserves no response. It fails on its face.

For those critical of these 4 women for not voluntarily coming forward earlier, ask yourselves what difference it would have made. Republicans in Alabama, the Christian conservatives of the Deep South, are saying that they don't care if Roy Moore's predatory sexual child pursuits are true. It's no big deal to them that Moore abused his position of power as a district attorney and committed crimes against teenage women.

And?

Powerful statement. Alabama politicians should be ashamed of themselves.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:The lawyer for one of the victims has released the following statement:

http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/11/one_of_roy_moores_accusers_roy.html

On behalf of Gloria Deason, please accept this additional statement on her behalf:

This statement is being given due to the public falsehoods and defamatory remarks being made by Roy Moore, many Alabama Republican officeholders and leaders, and Steve Bannon, regarding the motivations of Ms. Deason in describing her former relationship with Moore. She did not seek public exposure on the events described in The Washington Post article. She was contacted by the Post reporters several weeks ago. After careful consideration, and fully understanding that her character and veracity would be viciously attacked, she nonetheless agreed to go on the record and tell the truth.

Ms. Deason confirms that the The Post accurately reported the substance of her interviews with them. She does not know the other women named in the article. She is no longer a resident of Alabama. She is a registered Republican, but has no affiliation with the RNC and has not been contacted by the RNC or any Republican leaders at any time. The same is true for the DNC and Democratic leaders. She does not know Doug Jones, has not been contacted at any point by him or anyone associated with his campaign nor made any financial contributions to him.

There is nothing about being public regarding her relationship with Roy Moore that will enhance Ms. Deason's life. She did not seek the limelight. No glory, no financial compensation, no justice. But she stands firmly on the truth. No one can take that away from her. No one.

And Roy Moore knows the truth. Notably, he has not denied knowing Ms. Deason, or pursuing and dating her when she was 18 and he was in his mid-thirties. He has not denied plying her with alcohol knowing in his position as a district attorney that she was younger than the legal drinking age. He has not given a press conference or opened himself up to questions on his relationship with Ms. Deason or the other women named in the article. He appears to be in hiding while issuing incendiary statements about the women, calling them "evil" and accusing them of bribery and conspiracy with the DNC. He has also sent emails to his supporters using this as a reason to request more financial contributions for his campaign.

It is reprehensible that so many Alabama Republican officeholders and leaders of their party have rejected wholesale the magnitude of evidence reported in The Post. Worse yet, they claim that even if they believed the statements of pedophilia and sexual assault, specifically against Leigh Corfman (the 14 year old), to be true, they don't find it to be illegal or immoral conduct by Moore. A 14 year old cannot legally give consent for sex. In short, these leaders don't care. This is a stunning admission that the GOP is not a party of family values, certainly not in Alabama. And Steve Bannon's ridiculous statement that Moore's misconduct is akin to "locker room talk" deserves no response. It fails on its face.

For those critical of these 4 women for not voluntarily coming forward earlier, ask yourselves what difference it would have made. Republicans in Alabama, the Christian conservatives of the Deep South, are saying that they don't care if Roy Moore's predatory sexual child pursuits are true. It's no big deal to them that Moore abused his position of power as a district attorney and committed crimes against teenage women.

And?

Powerful statement. Alabama politicians should be ashamed of themselves.

It’s a lawyer’s statement. And? Besides feelings?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, GOP bible thumper turns out to be a hypocritical pedophile.

This story is as old as the hills, folks. It’s who the GOP are.

Yup. The left prosecutes perverts. The right elects them.

Speaking of prosecute, I'm even more skeeved out to learn he worked for the district attorney's office while he was cruising the courthouse for targets.

The more pushback on this story, the more convinced I am that there's something much worse that hasn't come out yet.

The pushback is designed to prevent it from coming out.

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Anonymous wrote:We know that no one who supposedly knew about this never reported a thing.

Why wait until 30 days before a heated election?
That's not even enough time for an investigation.

Something fishy about that.

Dude he admitted to everything except the 14 year old saying that he always got permission from the teenagers moms before dating them.

He admitted to knowing at least two of them. He won't say it didn't happen just, "I don't recall" and "I dated a lot of young women"

Exactly. So what's going on here is liberals don't like that an older man dated women of legal dating age, and asked their mothers for permission? 38 years ago? How many men in Hollywood are married to much younger women? It doesn't matter if you think it's skeevy, even for 38 years ago. What matter is if it's LEGAL. Timeframe and location matter, as do norms sat the time of the alleged 'crime'.

Is there any concrete proof, aside from 'word of mouth' that Moore knew the 14 year old was actually 14, not 16? And didn't he ask her mother as well? And if so, why did they not say "she's only 14?" and if they said they did, where is the concrete proof of that?

... says the person who was absolutely convinced Hillary Cilnton was running a child sex ring from the basement of Comet Pizza.

Actually I thought that was ridiculous. But there you are, assuming I feel a certain way. My point is proven - liberal lie.

A lot of your kind most certainly did.

Were Denny Hastert's accusers lying? Mark Foley's? How about Larry "Wide Stance" Craig? Ok, the Craig thing didn't involve minors, but still, what is it with Republican "family values" politicians and their peculiar sexual perversions?

I believe the women. If you don't find the Post credible, there's literally something wrong with you. And you don't dare get to impugn the Post -- you loved their reporting last week about Donna Brazille, didn't you?

My kind? Isn’t that what one of the accusers would say? Miss ‘resist’ on her FB page and all of the other far left groups she’s active in? Any reason this wasn’t disclosed, and now she’s sanitized her page? She probably thought she had it locked down using FB privacy. Nope It’s all out now. I’m guessing she is the reason the WAPo is running this story now and that this was a joint hit.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, GOP bible thumper turns out to be a hypocritical pedophile.

This story is as old as the hills, folks. It’s who the GOP are.

Yup. The left prosecutes perverts. The right elects them.

Speaking of prosecute, I'm even more skeeved out to learn he worked for the district attorney's office while he was cruising the courthouse for targets.

The more pushback on this story, the more convinced I am that there's something much worse that hasn't come out yet.

The pushback is designed to prevent it from coming out.

The pushback exposed the political history of one of the ‘victims’. Best clean up better next time. #resist!

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to Moore, the 14 year old was unusually tall, probably looked closer to 16-18 when he did it. And the age of consent in Alabama is 16. And the dating pool is/was quite shallow as most women in the 70s in Alabama were married by their late teens. My grandmother was married at 17, the week after she graduated from high school.

Facts don't matter to liberals. Put a bunch of teens in a lineup and I guarantee you that most liberal men would guess their age incorrectly. Furthermore, these idiots are deliberately 'forgetting' that almost 40 years has gone by and that it was a southern state where women did marry quite early. My very liberal MIL was pregnant with her first at 19, and that was in Ohio, never mind AL.

Why would a mother, at the courthouse for a hearing, need someone to watch a 19 year old? Especially if way back in the olden times in the south a 19 year old was practically an old maid? Something fishy about that story. Oh maybe it's because her daughter was actually 14 and still looked on as a minor.

I said my MIL was 19. This girl could easily be mistaken for 16. You know that, and that's why you are shifting the goalposts.

Doesn't matter how old your MIL was. If teenagers were practically brides back then why would the mother have needed supervision for a daughter if she was 16? Needing supervision implies she was still a minor needing protection from an adult. Is that what you call hitting on her?

Wasn't she going in for some sort of custody hearing? I would imagine that would make any mother paranoid to leave her daughter. Furthermore, I would have felt uncomfortable leaving my daughter at 14, 16, even 18 alone for a long period of time in a court setting, given the types of people that show up in courtrooms. There's a reason why I can't bring my knitting to jury duty, to pass the time. You are in no position to judge the motives of a mother going through marital issues in a court of law 38 years ago, when single mothers were more frowned upon

Yes of course. And probably if you were uncomfortable leaving you teenager daughter alone in that situation you the last thing you'd have wanted is a 30 something year old man making the moves on her when he was entrusted to chaperoning her.

Again, all you have is emotion here. I want to know what provable fact is. I don't believe in destroying anyone over how I - or anyone else feels.

You are impugning on a middle aged woman and her 71 year old woman and her friends who have backed her up saying they aren't trustworthy. Why do you think they would lie and make this up? Would you be able to convince your mother and your friends and your ex boyfriend to go on record to the nation and lie about something like this? We already know Roy Moore is capable of lying because he has a track record of it. The simplest story is usually the true one, and it is much easier to believe a proven liar is lying than to believe 30 some people who don't all know one another are all lying.

Yes, I am. Because I am given no hard fact, just their statements. And I don't believe anyone on face value. People lie for many reasons. And given the political background of one of the 'victims', and given the WaPo endorsing the opposition, there are two hard FACTS that give me doubt.

Did you believe the accusations against Harvey Weinstein? Mark Halperin? Do you believe them about Kevin Spacey? How about anyone on this list: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/10/us/men-accused-sexual-misconduct-weinstein.html?_r=0

In every single case on that list -- 21 names -- the fact pattern was very similar to Moore's situation, where multiple accusers came forward with corroboration. In every single instance, it was true and the perp has suffered some consequence.

But, you have Roy Moore -- a disreputable charlatan with no personal or professional integrity before running for higher office -- and suddenly you're not sure if you should believe the four women who independently confirm this happened to them and have 30 corroborating witnesses who confirm they knew about it when it happened?

Hell, even Moore's defenders seem to acknowledge it's true -- they're just saying stupid things to justify it like Mary was married to Joseph (it's actually literally blasphemy to defend child molestation in this way, but I digress). So, which is it -- you believe it's true but can justify it, or you're just not sure it's true?

Spacey and Weinstein say they did it. NYT knew years ago and did nothing. Hollywood had open jokes about it and did nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, GOP bible thumper turns out to be a hypocritical pedophile.

This story is as old as the hills, folks. It’s who the GOP are.

Yup. The left prosecutes perverts. The right elects them.

Speaking of prosecute, I'm even more skeeved out to learn he worked for the district attorney's office while he was cruising the courthouse for targets.

The more pushback on this story, the more convinced I am that there's something much worse that hasn't come out yet.

The pushback is designed to prevent it from coming out.

The pushback exposed the political history of one of the ‘victims’. Best clean up better next time. #resist!

Again, given that you have described yourself as a victim of sexual assault, how would you feel if you were attacked in the manner in which you are attacking these women? Do you think such attacks against you would be appropriate?

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to Moore, the 14 year old was unusually tall, probably looked closer to 16-18 when he did it. And the age of consent in Alabama is 16. And the dating pool is/was quite shallow as most women in the 70s in Alabama were married by their late teens. My grandmother was married at 17, the week after she graduated from high school.

Facts don't matter to liberals. Put a bunch of teens in a lineup and I guarantee you that most liberal men would guess their age incorrectly. Furthermore, these idiots are deliberately 'forgetting' that almost 40 years has gone by and that it was a southern state where women did marry quite early. My very liberal MIL was pregnant with her first at 19, and that was in Ohio, never mind AL.

Why would a mother, at the courthouse for a hearing, need someone to watch a 19 year old? Especially if way back in the olden times in the south a 19 year old was practically an old maid? Something fishy about that story. Oh maybe it's because her daughter was actually 14 and still looked on as a minor.

I said my MIL was 19. This girl could easily be mistaken for 16. You know that, and that's why you are shifting the goalposts.

Doesn't matter how old your MIL was. If teenagers were practically brides back then why would the mother have needed supervision for a daughter if she was 16? Needing supervision implies she was still a minor needing protection from an adult. Is that what you call hitting on her?

Wasn't she going in for some sort of custody hearing? I would imagine that would make any mother paranoid to leave her daughter. Furthermore, I would have felt uncomfortable leaving my daughter at 14, 16, even 18 alone for a long period of time in a court setting, given the types of people that show up in courtrooms. There's a reason why I can't bring my knitting to jury duty, to pass the time. You are in no position to judge the motives of a mother going through marital issues in a court of law 38 years ago, when single mothers were more frowned upon

Yes of course. And probably if you were uncomfortable leaving you teenager daughter alone in that situation you the last thing you'd have wanted is a 30 something year old man making the moves on her when he was entrusted to chaperoning her.

Again, all you have is emotion here. I want to know what provable fact is. I don't believe in destroying anyone over how I - or anyone else feels.

You are impugning on a middle aged woman and her 71 year old woman and her friends who have backed her up saying they aren't trustworthy. Why do you think they would lie and make this up? Would you be able to convince your mother and your friends and your ex boyfriend to go on record to the nation and lie about something like this? We already know Roy Moore is capable of lying because he has a track record of it. The simplest story is usually the true one, and it is much easier to believe a proven liar is lying than to believe 30 some people who don't all know one another are all lying.

Yes, I am. Because I am given no hard fact, just their statements. And I don't believe anyone on face value. People lie for many reasons. And given the political background of one of the 'victims', and given the WaPo endorsing the opposition, there are two hard FACTS that give me doubt.

Did you believe the accusations against Harvey Weinstein? Mark Halperin? Do you believe them about Kevin Spacey? How about anyone on this list: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/10/us/men-accused-sexual-misconduct-weinstein.html?_r=0

In every single case on that list -- 21 names -- the fact pattern was very similar to Moore's situation, where multiple accusers came forward with corroboration. In every single instance, it was true and the perp has suffered some consequence.

But, you have Roy Moore -- a disreputable charlatan with no personal or professional integrity before running for higher office -- and suddenly you're not sure if you should believe the four women who independently confirm this happened to them and have 30 corroborating witnesses who confirm they knew about it when it happened?

Hell, even Moore's defenders seem to acknowledge it's true -- they're just saying stupid things to justify it like Mary was married to Joseph (it's actually literally blasphemy to defend child molestation in this way, but I digress). So, which is it -- you believe it's true but can justify it, or you're just not sure it's true?

Spacey and Weinstein say they did it. NYT knew years ago and did nothing. Hollywood had open jokes about it and did nothing.

I see. So the way for a man to be believed is to deny accusations like Roy Moore did even if it's multiple accusations and even if there have been stories circulating about the very thing he was accused of (which is how the reporter first heard about it).

Tell me why you think those stories about Moore were circulating in the first place. Lots of Alabamans lying in anticipation of Moore running for office?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, GOP bible thumper turns out to be a hypocritical pedophile.

This story is as old as the hills, folks. It’s who the GOP are.

Who'd have thunk.

Anyway, seems the Moore-defending PP is in the minority. The Alabama GOP is trying to find a way to get him off the ballot. I hope they are successful, even if it tanks any slim chance of the Dem winning - country over party and all that.

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, GOP bible thumper turns out to be a hypocritical pedophile.

This story is as old as the hills, folks. It’s who the GOP are.

Yup. The left prosecutes perverts. The right elects them.

Speaking of prosecute, I'm even more skeeved out to learn he worked for the district attorney's office while he was cruising the courthouse for targets.

The more pushback on this story, the more convinced I am that there's something much worse that hasn't come out yet.

The pushback is designed to prevent it from coming out.

The pushback exposed the political history of one of the ‘victims’. Best clean up better next time. #resist!

Again, given that you have described yourself as a victim of sexual assault, how would you feel if you were attacked in the manner in which you are attacking these women? Do you think such attacks against you would be appropriate?

Ask yourself that. You’ve called me a liar and deleted my posts. . Why did you do that? Please tell DCUM

I have not called them liars. I just refuse to incriminate a man without due process. I have also questioned this woman’s motives given her political history.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to Moore, the 14 year old was unusually tall, probably looked closer to 16-18 when he did it. And the age of consent in Alabama is 16. And the dating pool is/was quite shallow as most women in the 70s in Alabama were married by their late teens. My grandmother was married at 17, the week after she graduated from high school.

Facts don't matter to liberals. Put a bunch of teens in a lineup and I guarantee you that most liberal men would guess their age incorrectly. Furthermore, these idiots are deliberately 'forgetting' that almost 40 years has gone by and that it was a southern state where women did marry quite early. My very liberal MIL was pregnant with her first at 19, and that was in Ohio, never mind AL.

Why would a mother, at the courthouse for a hearing, need someone to watch a 19 year old? Especially if way back in the olden times in the south a 19 year old was practically an old maid? Something fishy about that story. Oh maybe it's because her daughter was actually 14 and still looked on as a minor.

I said my MIL was 19. This girl could easily be mistaken for 16. You know that, and that's why you are shifting the goalposts.

Doesn't matter how old your MIL was. If teenagers were practically brides back then why would the mother have needed supervision for a daughter if she was 16? Needing supervision implies she was still a minor needing protection from an adult. Is that what you call hitting on her?

Wasn't she going in for some sort of custody hearing? I would imagine that would make any mother paranoid to leave her daughter. Furthermore, I would have felt uncomfortable leaving my daughter at 14, 16, even 18 alone for a long period of time in a court setting, given the types of people that show up in courtrooms. There's a reason why I can't bring my knitting to jury duty, to pass the time. You are in no position to judge the motives of a mother going through marital issues in a court of law 38 years ago, when single mothers were more frowned upon

Yes of course. And probably if you were uncomfortable leaving you teenager daughter alone in that situation you the last thing you'd have wanted is a 30 something year old man making the moves on her when he was entrusted to chaperoning her.

Again, all you have is emotion here. I want to know what provable fact is. I don't believe in destroying anyone over how I - or anyone else feels.

You are impugning on a middle aged woman and her 71 year old woman and her friends who have backed her up saying they aren't trustworthy. Why do you think they would lie and make this up? Would you be able to convince your mother and your friends and your ex boyfriend to go on record to the nation and lie about something like this? We already know Roy Moore is capable of lying because he has a track record of it. The simplest story is usually the true one, and it is much easier to believe a proven liar is lying than to believe 30 some people who don't all know one another are all lying.

Yes, I am. Because I am given no hard fact, just their statements. And I don't believe anyone on face value. People lie for many reasons. And given the political background of one of the 'victims', and given the WaPo endorsing the opposition, there are two hard FACTS that give me doubt.

Did you believe the accusations against Harvey Weinstein? Mark Halperin? Do you believe them about Kevin Spacey? How about anyone on this list: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/10/us/men-accused-sexual-misconduct-weinstein.html?_r=0

In every single case on that list -- 21 names -- the fact pattern was very similar to Moore's situation, where multiple accusers came forward with corroboration. In every single instance, it was true and the perp has suffered some consequence.

But, you have Roy Moore -- a disreputable charlatan with no personal or professional integrity before running for higher office -- and suddenly you're not sure if you should believe the four women who independently confirm this happened to them and have 30 corroborating witnesses who confirm they knew about it when it happened?

Hell, even Moore's defenders seem to acknowledge it's true -- they're just saying stupid things to justify it like Mary was married to Joseph (it's actually literally blasphemy to defend child molestation in this way, but I digress). So, which is it -- you believe it's true but can justify it, or you're just not sure it's true?

Spacey and Weinstein say they did it. NYT knew years ago and did nothing. Hollywood had open jokes about it and did nothing.

I see. So the way for a man to be believed is to deny accusations like Roy Moore did even if it's multiple accusations and even if there have been stories circulating about the very thing he was accused of (which is how the reporter first heard about it).

Tell me why you think those stories about Moore were circulating in the first place. Lots of Alabamans lying in anticipation of Moore running for office?

Ask the FB resist woman

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, GOP bible thumper turns out to be a hypocritical pedophile.

This story is as old as the hills, folks. It’s who the GOP are.

Yup. The left prosecutes perverts. The right elects them.

Speaking of prosecute, I'm even more skeeved out to learn he worked for the district attorney's office while he was cruising the courthouse for targets.

The more pushback on this story, the more convinced I am that there's something much worse that hasn't come out yet.

The pushback is designed to prevent it from coming out.

The pushback exposed the political history of one of the ‘victims’. Best clean up better next time. #resist!

Again, given that you have described yourself as a victim of sexual assault, how would you feel if you were attacked in the manner in which you are attacking these women? Do you think such attacks against you would be appropriate?

Ask yourself that. You’ve called me a liar and deleted my posts. . Why did you do that? Please tell DCUM

I have not called them liars. I just refuse to incriminate a man without due process. I have also questioned this woman’s motives given her political history.

He won't receive due process because he can't be prosecuted.