ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s address “why” this current union is coming together if you have all of the answers?

You want to address the “why” even though you wrote a short novel pretending to explain what happened.

The boys’ teams from both clubs weren’t good. That’s how this all started. Ask anyone that actually knows something instead of writing make-believe stories.

And don’t just gloss over the fact that your history of explaining player losses at McLean was completely untrue as well.

[Anonymous]

Of course that’s why it all happened. We all know that it was bc of the boys. And we’re not talking about the past McLean player losses, we’re talking about a merger that’s happening now and what’s going to happen moving forward. Clearly you can’t read…

[Anonymous]

You must be an syc parent or one of the ones who was shunned away a few years back by McLean lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t rocket science:

BRYC was struggling back in the day, to keep ECNL charter they joined VYS. Brave had two years to get their stuff straight and clearly by looking at the clubs overall performance, they failed at that venture. Hence, they’re going to lose their ECNL charter.

McLean and SYC mutually separate due to the gap between the boys and girls sides and the logistical nightmare of the distance. The only girls leaving to go back to SYC are the ones at the bottom of the rosters. No one else is going to GA over ECNL on the girls side.

MYS realizes they lose some players back to SYC and the fact that their talent pool hasn’t been what it use to be and they have an opportunity to bail out Brave and help themselves at the same time (so they think).

Now will it help McLean on the girls side? Only if they don’t lose all of their talent that they do have because of whatever reason: their players don’t want to play for Brave coaches or they just don’t want to be part of all of this craziness once again. It’s happening and the delay in releasing a coaching slate and ID sessions just keeps putting them further and further behind the curve. If McLean would have learned from their first merger and did things differently this go around, it might have been very successful for everyone involved. Unfortunately, McLean doesn’t realize that their going to lose their best talent from the younger ages to other clubs, it’s already happening and it’s sad and unfortunate but they made their own bed once again.

Time will tell but my guess is they will
lose the top 1/3 of their girls at the 2011 and 2012 age groups to other ECNL teams. And the other local clubs can smell blood in the water, both GA and ECNL clubs are and will be coming after the top players from both Brave and Union.

McLean/Union has rested on their history and laurels for too long and now they’ve exposed themselves to losing their top players. Lessons learned the hard way once again…and the worse part is that the girls are all the sacrificial lambs in this debacle.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course that’s why it all happened. We all know that it was bc of the boys. And we’re not talking about the past McLean player losses, we’re talking about a merger that’s happening now and what’s going to happen moving forward. Clearly you can’t read…

Are any of the boys programs in VA as strong nationally as several VA girls programs are nationally? It seems like Bethesda boys are consistently good across years nationally, but I don’t see the same at the VA clubs. Why the male / female divergence in VA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t rocket science:

BRYC was struggling back in the day, to keep ECNL charter they joined VYS. Brave had two years to get their stuff straight and clearly by looking at the clubs overall performance, they failed at that venture. Hence, they’re going to lose their ECNL charter.

McLean and SYC mutually separate due to the gap between the boys and girls sides and the logistical nightmare of the distance. The only girls leaving to go back to SYC are the ones at the bottom of the rosters. No one else is going to GA over ECNL on the girls side.

MYS realizes they lose some players back to SYC and the fact that their talent pool hasn’t been what it use to be and they have an opportunity to bail out Brave and help themselves at the same time (so they think).

Now will it help McLean on the girls side? Only if they don’t lose all of their talent that they do have because of whatever reason: their players don’t want to play for Brave coaches or they just don’t want to be part of all of this craziness once again. It’s happening and the delay in releasing a coaching slate and ID sessions just keeps putting them further and further behind the curve. If McLean would have learned from their first merger and did things differently this go around, it might have been very successful for everyone involved. Unfortunately, McLean doesn’t realize that their going to lose their best talent from the younger ages to other clubs, it’s already happening and it’s sad and unfortunate but they made their own bed once again.

Time will tell but my guess is they will
lose the top 1/3 of their girls at the 2011 and 2012 age groups to other ECNL teams. And the other local clubs can smell blood in the water, both GA and ECNL clubs are and will be coming after the top players from both Brave and Union.

McLean/Union has rested on their history and laurels for too long and now they’ve exposed themselves to losing their top players. Lessons learned the hard way once again…and the worse part is that the girls are all the sacrificial lambs in this debacle.

+1000

McLean parents still believing McLean is controlling all of the decisions and outcomes from the past few months. Like an aging athlete refusing to accept the realities of old age.

[Anonymous]

Here are the ecnl mid-atlantic placements of the GIRLS Union and Brave teams with the YSR ranking in VA in parentheses:
2011:
Union 7th (5th YSR) - Brave 8th (8th YSR)
2010:
Union 2nd (1st YSR) - Brave 6th (4th YSR)
2009:
Union 7th (5th YSR) - Brave 13th (13th YSR)
2008:
Union 7th (8th YSR) - Brave 4th (5th YSR)
2007:
Union 6th (3rd YSR) - Brave 12th (15th YSR)
2005-6:
Union 3rd (4th YSR) - Brave 10th (9th YSR)

[Anonymous]

If the point of this is primarily to salvage ECNL Boys, I have 3 thoughts:
1) FXU will still be weak on the boys side. There are too many better options close by (DCU, Bethesda, SYC, Alex, Arl).
2) ECNL Boys is a sinking ship. MLS Next is clearly winning, and boys from ECNL are barely being recruited by colleges.
3) For girls, the turmoil probably only benefits the 3 GA clubs. ECNL is sending GA clubs customers.

What a disaster.

[Anonymous]

For all the Union and Brave bashing, Union is currently performing the 4th best in the mid-Atlantic on the girls side (out of 13 teams), with an average placement of 5.33, and Brave is 9th out of 13th (ahead of Charlotte Ind, NC Fusion, Beach and NCFC), with an average placement of 8.33.

[Anonymous]

typo...correcting the Brave average placement number to 8.83...

For all the Union and Brave bashing, Union is currently performing the 4th best in the mid-Atlantic on the girls side (out of 13 teams), with an average placement of 5.33, and Brave is 9th out of 13th (ahead of Charlotte Ind, NC Fusion, Beach and NCFC), with an average placement of 8.83.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the point of this is primarily to salvage ECNL Boys, I have 3 thoughts:
1) FXU will still be weak on the boys side. There are too many better options close by (DCU, Bethesda, SYC, Alex, Arl).
2) ECNL Boys is a sinking ship. MLS Next is clearly winning, and boys from ECNL are barely being recruited by colleges.
3) For girls, the turmoil probably only benefits the 3 GA clubs. ECNL is sending GA clubs customers.

What a disaster.

Don’t disagree but if you continue to lose boys to clubs with mls next then that could mean losing whole clubs on the girls side to GA so they can have mls next. And boys dollars count as much as the girls dollars to ECNL.

[Anonymous]

I think we would all agree that this boys/girls dilemma would be solved by having mls next match with girls ECNL and GA match with ECNL boys = problem solved haha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we would all agree that this boys/girls dilemma would be solved by having mls next match with girls ECNL and GA match with ECNL boys = problem solved haha

😂😂😂

[Anonymous]

When ECNL boys comes crumbling down… boy oh boy…

This is happening in this region, the west, and NE.

Southeast appears to have ECNL boys performing better than mls next non academy teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t rocket science:

BRYC was struggling back in the day, to keep ECNL charter they joined VYS. Brave had two years to get their stuff straight and clearly by looking at the clubs overall performance, they failed at that venture. Hence, they’re going to lose their ECNL charter.

McLean and SYC mutually separate due to the gap between the boys and girls sides and the logistical nightmare of the distance. The only girls leaving to go back to SYC are the ones at the bottom of the rosters. No one else is going to GA over ECNL on the girls side.

MYS realizes they lose some players back to SYC and the fact that their talent pool hasn’t been what it use to be and they have an opportunity to bail out Brave and help themselves at the same time (so they think).

Now will it help McLean on the girls side? Only if they don’t lose all of their talent that they do have because of whatever reason: their players don’t want to play for Brave coaches or they just don’t want to be part of all of this craziness once again. It’s happening and the delay in releasing a coaching slate and ID sessions just keeps putting them further and further behind the curve. If McLean would have learned from their first merger and did things differently this go around, it might have been very successful for everyone involved. Unfortunately, McLean doesn’t realize that their going to lose their best talent from the younger ages to other clubs, it’s already happening and it’s sad and unfortunate but they made their own bed once again.

Time will tell but my guess is they will
lose the top 1/3 of their girls at the 2011 and 2012 age groups to other ECNL teams. And the other local clubs can smell blood in the water, both GA and ECNL clubs are and will be coming after the top players from both Brave and Union.

McLean/Union has rested on their history and laurels for too long and now they’ve exposed themselves to losing their top players. Lessons learned the hard way once again…and the worse part is that the girls are all the sacrificial lambs in this debacle.

+1000

McLean parents still believing McLean is controlling all of the decisions and outcomes from the past few months. Like an aging athlete refusing to accept the realities of old age.

Union parents are not worried. Brave parents are hoping for Brave coaches to be in control.

We will see how Union or Brave players will be on the roster. I bet you there will be more Union kids for each age group