Biden wants RTO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to tell people that policy is changing, they are going to call you out on your assumptions/rationale. Can’t be avoided, but leadership can do what it likes. Intelligent employees are already figuring out what management values and are making plans to leave or deal.

PP who has been generally defending that there are some reasons that support increased onsite presence and that deep data-driven analysis is not required.

I also agree with every word of the above post.

Glad we got that straight. My belief is that RTO is not a good idea, and is just kicking the can down the road by punishing a small group of people who are vocal and influential. But again, leadership will do what it wants. No one needs to listen.

You don’t have to listen, you just need to show up.

Nobody in this thread is saying they won't show up (feds know not to pull that). We're complaining on the internet. They are not mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous]

It’s amazing we won WWII with govt workers. If it was fought today we would lose as Lara And Todd would be remote and miss the battle

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to tell people that policy is changing, they are going to call you out on your assumptions/rationale. Can’t be avoided, but leadership can do what it likes. Intelligent employees are already figuring out what management values and are making plans to leave or deal.

PP who has been generally defending that there are some reasons that support increased onsite presence and that deep data-driven analysis is not required.

I also agree with every word of the above post.

Glad we got that straight. My belief is that RTO is not a good idea, and is just kicking the can down the road by punishing a small group of people who are vocal and influential. But again, leadership will do what it wants. No one needs to listen.

You don’t have to listen, you just need to show up.

Ok tough guy. You’re not even making sense.

I’ll show up as long as it suits me. Which isn’t looking like very long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing we won WWII with govt workers. If it was fought today we would lose as Lara And Todd would be remote and miss the battle

Says someone who knows nothing about what our armed forces are capable of achieving without “boots on the ground” lol. Technology changes things you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to tell people that policy is changing, they are going to call you out on your assumptions/rationale. Can’t be avoided, but leadership can do what it likes. Intelligent employees are already figuring out what management values and are making plans to leave or deal.

PP who has been generally defending that there are some reasons that support increased onsite presence and that deep data-driven analysis is not required.

I also agree with every word of the above post.

Glad we got that straight. My belief is that RTO is not a good idea, and is just kicking the can down the road by punishing a small group of people who are vocal and influential. But again, leadership will do what it wants. No one needs to listen.

You don’t have to listen, you just need to show up.

Ok tough guy. You’re not even making sense.

I’ll show up as long as it suits me. Which isn’t looking like very long.

Find another job. You are not needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to tell people that policy is changing, they are going to call you out on your assumptions/rationale. Can’t be avoided, but leadership can do what it likes. Intelligent employees are already figuring out what management values and are making plans to leave or deal.

PP who has been generally defending that there are some reasons that support increased onsite presence and that deep data-driven analysis is not required.

I also agree with every word of the above post.

Glad we got that straight. My belief is that RTO is not a good idea, and is just kicking the can down the road by punishing a small group of people who are vocal and influential. But again, leadership will do what it wants. No one needs to listen.

You don’t have to listen, you just need to show up.

Ok tough guy. You’re not even making sense.

I’ll show up as long as it suits me. Which isn’t looking like very long.

Find another job. You are not needed.

Isn’t that what I just said?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.

I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.

I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.

Then get another job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.

I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.

Then get another job.

??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.

[Anonymous]

Seriously. Just because some feds have better jobs than you do doesn’t mean it’s not a problem to take away the flexibility they were either hired with, or given later. You could have gone into a different line of work PP. Everyone makes choices. You never had flexibility. Doesn’t mean others haven’t planned their lives around having it, and aren’t stressed by the idea of change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.

I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.

Then get another job.

??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.

Yes you are. You are jealous of people who have jobs that can be done remotely? Go get one of those. Not their problem you hate your job conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.

I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.

Then get another job.

??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.

Yes you are. You are jealous of people who have jobs that can be done remotely? Go get one of those. Not their problem you hate your job conditions.

PP did not say they hated their job, at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.

What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.

If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.

Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.

I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.

So find another job more suited to your emotional state. You sound like an envious person.