Can someone explain this quote to me about the Gods of the Amorites?
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Anonymous
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Full quote from a FB friend,
"...you shall not fear the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell." I honestly don't know what it means. Can someone please help me out? ; ) |
Anonymous
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https://www.worldhistory.org/amorite/
In depth history of said people. |
Anonymous
Excellent. I noted this passage in particular: "The fact that the events related in the Book of Exodus are not substantiated in any other ancient work, or by archaeological evidence of any kind whatsoever, supports the theory that the Hebrew writers of that book created a new narrative to explain their presence in Canaan, one without any connection to the Amorites of Mesopotamia. ..." |
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https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/exodus/exodus-fact-or-fiction/
The Exodus: Fact or Fiction? Evidence of Israel’s Exodus from Egypt Biblical Archaeology Society Staff April 14, 2022 86 Comments 186594 views Share “The article examines Egyptian texts, artifacts and archaeological sites, which demonstrate that the Bible recounts accurate memories from the 13th century B.C.E. For instance, the names of three places that appear in the biblical account of Israel’s Exodus from Egypt correspond to Egyptian place names from the Ramesside Period (13th–11th centuries B.C.E.). The Bible recounts that, as slaves, the Israelites were forced to build the store-cities of Pithom and Ramses. After the ten plagues, the Israelites left Egypt and famously crossed the Yam Suph (translated Red Sea or Reed Sea), whose waters were miraculously parted for them. The biblical names Pithom, Ramses and Yam Suph (Red Sea or Reed Sea) correspond to the Egyptian place names Pi-Ramesse, Pi-Atum and (Pa-)Tjuf. These three place names appear together in Egyptian texts only from the Ramesside Period. The name Pi-Ramesse went out of use by the beginning of Egypt’s Third Intermediate Period, which began around 1085 B.C.E., and does not reappear until much later. These specific place names recorded in the biblical text demonstrate that the memory of the biblical authors for these traditions predates Egypt’s Third Intermediate Period. This supports a 13th-century Exodus during the Ramesside Period because it is only during the Ramesside Period that the place names Pi-Ramesse, Pi-Atum and (Pa-)Tjuf (Red Sea or Reed Sea) are all in use. A worker’s house from western Thebes also seems to support a 13th-century Exodus. In the 1930s, archaeologists at the University of Chicago were excavating the mortuary Temple of Aya and Horemheb, the last two pharaohs of Egypt’s 18th Dynasty, in western Thebes. The temple was first built by Aya in the 14th-century B.C.E., but Horemheb usurped and expanded the temple when he became pharaoh. (He ruled from the late 14th century through the early 13th century B.C.E.) Horemheb chiseled out every place where Aya’s name had been and replaced it with his own. Later—during the reign of Ramses IV (12th century B.C.E.)—the Temple of Aya and Horemheb was demolished. During their excavations, the University of Chicago uncovered a house and part of another house belonging to the workers who were given the task of demolishing the temple. The plan of the complete house is the same as that of the four-room house characteristic of Israelite dwellings during the Iron Age. However, unlike the Israelite models that were usually constructed of stone, the Theban house was made of wattle and daub. It is significant that this house was built in Egypt at the same time that Israelites were constructing four-room houses in Canaan. The similarities between the two have caused some to speculate that the builders of the Theban house were either proto-Israelites or a group closely related to the Israelites.” Notes: 1. This BAR article is a free abstract from Manfred Bietak’s article “On the Historicity of the Exodus: What Egyptology Today Can Contribute to Assessing the Biblical Account of the Sojourn in Egypt” in Thomas E. Levy, Thomas Schneider and William H.C. Propp, eds., Israel’s Exodus in Transdisciplinary Perspective: Text, Archaeology, Culture and Geoscience (Cham: Springer, 2015). In Bietak’s article, the scholarly debate about the archaeological remains and the onomastic data of Wadi Tumilat is more elaborately treated. |
Anonymous
This article is an excellent toe-dip, but not the entire picture, which is why I’ve included the notation at the end. |
Anonymous
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It is essentially a paraphrase of the commandment to "have no other gods before me." The Israelites have been rescued from Egypt and are complaining about being oppressed in one of the lands in which they ended up. When they complain to God, his reply is, basically, "I brought you out of Egypt and told you to listen to me. Did you do that? No. You worshiped the local idols instead.* So I am really grumpy with you, but I will send another prophet and see if we can get back on track. AGAIN. Sigh."
*i.e. the gods of the Amorites. Many translations have "worship" instead of "fear." |
Anonymous
| ^ yeah, Yahweh was a jealous god, and didn't believe in religious freedom or having to compete in the marketplace of religious views with other gods. |
Anonymous
He competed, and won. As Christianity is the world’s largest religion, and there are no Amorites anymore. Do you know what the Amorites believed and what they worshiped and what their culture was like? Are you wanting to be and Amorite and are mad your religious line is no longer around? Why all the love for the Amorites? |
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Anonymous
Competed? You mean Joshua killed them all? I guess just like the U.S. cavalry "competed and won" against the indigenous people of the western plains -- manifest destiny and all that, God was on our side right? Get real, Christianity was largely imposed at the point of a sword, and proselytizing. It never "competed" in the marketplace of ideas. Indeed heretics were burned at the stake. |
Anonymous
The Canaanites and and Amorites may be gone but the Philistines, AKA Palestinians (who were there first) haven't totally been wiped out. |
Anonymous
Many of the people in today’s Palestine came from other places, starting with Babylonia during Nebuchadnezzar’s reign and the Jewish Babylonian exile. Also, the Philistines worshipped Baal and that’s totally gone. |
Anonymous
gone? You mean wiped out by a certain religiously intolerant group that invaded their lands |
Anonymous
The storm god Baal was the major religion in Canaan at one point, but he was “gone” way before Jesus and Christianity, if that’s the point you were trying to make. |
Anonymous
You seem to be conflating ancient Judaism and Christianity which makes your argument seem a lot weaker and more like ranting. |