Return of fifth grade CogAT?

[Anonymous]

Will next years fifth graders take CogAT for criteria based magnet schools? I know they haven't been doing it since covid but I wondered if they will start again for the 2022-2023 school year

[Anonymous]

Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

[Anonymous]

They could have had it come back this year — kids are back in person — but chose not to. So, I really doubt it will ever come back

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They could have had it come back this year — kids are back in person — but chose not to. So, I really doubt it will ever come back

+1000

[Anonymous]

MCPS said they would do the lottery for at least three years. Cogat is unlikely to come back during that time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

MCPS is probably happy with the more diverse selection they get with their quasi-lottery and are attempting to refine the process to improve outcomes. Sadly, I would not count on the CogAT making a return, but that's just my best guess.

[Anonymous]

Time to replace the board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

In theory, they could administer the CogAT and also select students by lottery, using CogAT as one data point for entry into the lottery pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time to replace the board.

Yes, a Republican board that would arm teachers! Oh, wait that's a terrible idea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

In theory, they could administer the CogAT and also select students by lottery, using CogAT as one data point for entry into the lottery pool.

Interesting... As far as tests go I like the CogAT because it seems fairer since it's harder to cram for, but personally, I like it if they expanded these programs to a few more schools so that any kid who could do the work could attend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

In theory, they could administer the CogAT and also select students by lottery, using CogAT as one data point for entry into the lottery pool.

Interesting... As far as tests go I like the CogAT because it seems fairer since it's harder to cram for, but personally, I like it if they expanded these programs to a few more schools so that any kid who could do the work could attend.

Teacher resource and lack of funding would be the main obstacle to expand at least the MS STEM magnet program. Computer science is one of the highlights of TPMS magnet course that's not available for other MSs. Teaching computer science means much less pay versus working for a IT company, so only young graduates or very self-motivated passionate-in-teaching kind of teachers will be available. Right now the expansion of HIGH and AIM to all MSs is a low-hanging food and good move. Maybe suggesting expanding the magnet science course would be more practical (there should be a corresponding humanity course? literacy?).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

In theory, they could administer the CogAT and also select students by lottery, using CogAT as one data point for entry into the lottery pool.

Interesting... As far as tests go I like the CogAT because it seems fairer since it's harder to cram for, but personally, I like it if they expanded these programs to a few more schools so that any kid who could do the work could attend.

Teacher resource and lack of funding would be the main obstacle to expand at least the MS STEM magnet program. Computer science is one of the highlights of TPMS magnet course that's not available for other MSs. Teaching computer science means much less pay versus working for a IT company, so only young graduates or very self-motivated passionate-in-teaching kind of teachers will be available. Right now the expansion of HIGH and AIM to all MSs is a low-hanging food and good move. Maybe suggesting expanding the magnet science course would be more practical (there should be a corresponding humanity course? literacy?).

I'd imagine the teacher resources issue is solvable since the number of total students would remain constant, but doubling the number of magnet busses might be tricky. However, if the boundaries were smaller and each school had roughly 100 kids. I'm guessing they could evenly space a few central pickups to optimally fill the busses which would also have shorter routes. Honestly, not like I know but I think this would be popular to expand these propgrams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

In theory, they could administer the CogAT and also select students by lottery, using CogAT as one data point for entry into the lottery pool.

Interesting... As far as tests go I like the CogAT because it seems fairer since it's harder to cram for, but personally, I like it if they expanded these programs to a few more schools so that any kid who could do the work could attend.

Teacher resource and lack of funding would be the main obstacle to expand at least the MS STEM magnet program. Computer science is one of the highlights of TPMS magnet course that's not available for other MSs. Teaching computer science means much less pay versus working for a IT company, so only young graduates or very self-motivated passionate-in-teaching kind of teachers will be available. Right now the expansion of HIGH and AIM to all MSs is a low-hanging food and good move. Maybe suggesting expanding the magnet science course would be more practical (there should be a corresponding humanity course? literacy?).

I'd imagine the teacher resources issue is solvable since the number of total students would remain constant, but doubling the number of magnet busses might be tricky. However, if the boundaries were smaller and each school had roughly 100 kids. I'm guessing they could evenly space a few central pickups to optimally fill the busses which would also have shorter routes. Honestly, not like I know but I think this would be popular to expand these propgrams.

They could save the money bussing if they just opened a magnet mid-county. That would be popular with parents and wouldn't overcrowd Blair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows, and MCPS ain’t saying. Anything you read here will be pure speculation.

Actually people do know and no it will not return next year. MCPS has stated that there will be a 3-year moratorium on this so they can conduct this pilot. We don't know what they'll do after this year yet but there are no plans to administer it in 2022 to 2023.

In theory, they could administer the CogAT and also select students by lottery, using CogAT as one data point for entry into the lottery pool.

Interesting... As far as tests go I like the CogAT because it seems fairer since it's harder to cram for, but personally, I like it if they expanded these programs to a few more schools so that any kid who could do the work could attend.

Teacher resource and lack of funding would be the main obstacle to expand at least the MS STEM magnet program. Computer science is one of the highlights of TPMS magnet course that's not available for other MSs. Teaching computer science means much less pay versus working for a IT company, so only young graduates or very self-motivated passionate-in-teaching kind of teachers will be available. Right now the expansion of HIGH and AIM to all MSs is a low-hanging food and good move. Maybe suggesting expanding the magnet science course would be more practical (there should be a corresponding humanity course? literacy?).

I'd imagine the teacher resources issue is solvable since the number of total students would remain constant, but doubling the number of magnet busses might be tricky. However, if the boundaries were smaller and each school had roughly 100 kids. I'm guessing they could evenly space a few central pickups to optimally fill the busses which would also have shorter routes. Honestly, not like I know but I think this would be popular to expand these propgrams.

They could save the money bussing if they just opened a magnet mid-county. That would be popular with parents and wouldn't overcrowd Blair.

They already have one in mid county. Maybe they could open in the northeastern corner.