Data for middle schools for TJ
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Anonymous
| Is there demographic data for TJ showing the make up of the school based on middle school? |
Anonymous
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Previous years.
https://www.fcag.org/tjstatistics.shtml I haven’t seen the class of 2026 data yet. |
Anonymous
Thank you! Just what I was looking for. |
Anonymous
You will notice the traditional feeders were reduced 33-50% in the name of equity compare 2024 vs 2025 The top STEM students are no longer going to TJ |
Anonymous
Yes, the affluent families from those schools were less able to game admissions. |
Anonymous
| We all know it was just a blatant exercise in pork barrel politics. Make them pay at the polls next year if it bothers you. They will destroy more schools if you give them another term. |
Anonymous
It is not affluent families gaming the system. You guys get it completely wrong. We bought older homes to live in McLean area for the schools. So the kids who are attending top feeders are really smart kids with lot of students with GPA 4. In addition, if you have noticed Longfellow MS made it to top 5 in Science Olympiad Nationals and also was in nationals in science bowl and other activities too. These are really hard working smart kids and we bought home what we thought was the right school for them. Just taking some TJ prep course won't help in all these. Also there is nothing wrong in taking prep courses. We all are in life long learning. We learn from kids too and they learn from others as well. People who send to prep courses are not to get into TJ but to set a strong foundation for success |
Anonymous
At least we will have public schools with Ds. Rs want taxpayers to pay for privileged kids to go to private schools, defunding public schools. |
Anonymous
Omg. Other bright (less affluent, less entitled) kids have access to this public resource. How horrible. 
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Anonymous
People who send their kids to enrichment course, like RSM or AoPS, build a strong foundation for success. They are learning skills and developing critical thinking abilities. People who send their kids to prep classes are focused on one test and scoring high on that one test. That might help the kids for foundational skills but that is not the goal. STEM clubs, enrichment classes and all that should be because the kids enjoy the activities and want to further their skills. That love of those activities will hopefully carry on into high school and college and adult life regardless of where they go to school. Prep classes are to score well on one test. That could be the old Quant test for TJ or the SAT or the ACT but you don't continue prepping for a test after you have taken the test. It is not an activity that you are doing because you enjoy it. Prep classes have their place but the exams that people prep for have been declining in importance because admissions branches for programs across the board, from AAP to TJ to Universities, are aware that prep courses are inflating individuals scores and that those score differentials are more a mark of how well you are prepped and less of actual ability. If you moved to a top school because academics are important to you, then not getting into TJ is disappointing but I am sure that your kids will have a great experience at McLean or Langley High School. Both of which offer a larger variety of courses then my kid will have a chance to take at South Lakes. The parents from Fox Mill had to petition and fight for math classes past Calculus because there were none when Fox Mill ES was switched to South Lakes. So few kids at SLHS got to that point that there were no options for the Fox Mill kids who were getting there. I doubt that has been an issue at McLean or Langley. The kids who are stronger in math and science in the lower SES MS schools have fewer opportunities then the kids at higher SES schools because the number of kids participating in the AP/IB programs is so much smaller. TJ is a world of difference for them in even the basic AP classes that are available. HS across the county do not offer the same classes because the need for different types of classes is so starkly different. I get that TJ is important to a lot of bright kids and it is disappointing to not be accepted. But they are going to have opportunities at McLean or Langley or Oakton or Chantilly that kids at other HS won't. Lots of bright, hard working kids are going to be disappointed with college acceptances as well. People are going to apply for jobs or promotions and not get them. Not getting what you want even when you work hard is a part of life. It is part of the parents job to teach their kid how to handle that with grace. So you can tell your kid "It is because you were the wrong race" or you can tell your kid "Rejection sucks. It's ok to be disappointed. But there are great opportunities at your base school and you will be able to study with more of your friends. What club or activity do you want to do that might push you? Let's find something after school." |
Anonymous
Your argument is crap, every high school should offer advanced math and problem solve TJ can go back to taking the best students in STEM. Look here's what actually needs to happen They need to do a much better job identifying kids who actually belong in AAP and then those are the kids that should be going to TJ period. If you are taking Algebra 1 in 8th you aren't an advanced STEM student. This geographic diversity and other needs equity garbage has to stop. As it currently stands TJ is no longer taking the best STEM students. |
Anonymous
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Should but they don’t.
And we all know that the level of instruction and available classes is totally different for lower SES schools then Higher SES schools. So that kid who has had better classes in ES and MS and better options at HS has every right to be disappointed they were not accepted into TJ. I get being disappointed but they will have better options at their higher SES HS then the kids from Lewis and Mt. Vernon and Herndon High. And that doesn’t change the fact that many kids who work hard are not going to be accepted into top schools because there are not enough slots for all of those kids. And that is the same for jobs and promotions. You need to learn to deal with the fact that you can work hard and not get what you want. How you frame that is important. If you want to teach your kid to blame other people for not being accepted and be disgruntled that they have to settle for an excellent HS, that is on you. |
Anonymous
So for the Class of 2025 it appears one can either calculate the admissions rates (based on the exact numbers disclosed to FCAG) or infer the admissions rates (based on a range where the minimum is based on the 1.5% set-aside per middle school and the maximum is based on 10, the highest number FCPS treats as "TS" when responding to FOIA requests) as follows: Herndon 33.3% - 37.0% Stone 30.0% - 50.0% Whitman 29.2% - 41.7% Liberty 24.2% - 30.3% Robinson 23.1% - 25.6% Cooper 20.4% Hughes 19.5% - 24.4% Sandburg 19.4% Rocky Run 18.9% Longfellow 18.8% Franklin 17.9% - 25.6% Hayfield 17.9% - 25.6% Poe 17.9% - 35.7% Carson 17.1% Glasgow 17.1% Jackson 15.7% Key 15.0% - 25.0% South County 14.8% - 18.5% Irving 14.3% - 17.9% Thoreau 14.1% - 15.6% Holmes 12.5% - 25.0% Twain 10.5% - 13.2% Lake Braddock 10.0% Frost 9.3% - 10.3% Lanier 9.2% - 11.5% Kilmer 7.1% - 8.9% Take-aways: 1. Highest admit rates were from non-AAP center schools with relatively few applicants. 2. The apparent goal to stick it to the traditional FCPS middle-school feeders (Rocky Run, Longfellow, and Carson) was somewhat successful (they still sent the most kids, but roughly half as many as in the past). 3. The lowest admit rates were from from AAP center schools (Twain, Lake Braddock, Frost, Lanier, and Kilmer) that traditionally had not sent the most kids to TJ, but saw their admission rates drop further under the new approach. These families had no way to have anticipated, of course, that they were diminishing their kids' chances of getting into TJ by sending them to AAP centers. |
Anonymous
This is democratic led equity in action. If you have a problem with this you need to pay attention when voting for school board. |
Anonymous
Work hard. Affluence is not an outcome of gaming but working hard. Don’t resent affluence - you can get there too. TJ is just a sidebar to your bigger problem - resentment of those that are affluent. |