ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

At least the August birthdays will largely be staying on the same team (but for the fall birthdays who get added). So they should be ok. Always stinks to lose your grade peers of course.

That really depends how many September to December kids are on any given team. And don’t underestimate how challenging it will be to be perhaps the only kid not in the older grade that the entire rest of the team will be on.

I do not believe many Q3/Q4 kids left in the NL team. It has to be from RL team or outside smaller clubs. So if as those BY said, Q3/Q4 RL is not good enough to take the younger spot. Why are those parents so scared and fight hard to delay the change? It is pathetic to maintain the age advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

Yup, and that's well and fine for schooling purposes and once you start holding back for multiple months, well sorry you won't be aligned with the "typical" age group.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

Yup, and that's well and fine for schooling purposes and once you start holding back for multiple months, well sorry you won't be aligned with the "typical" age group.

Don’t disagree at all. But you can’t tell me Aug. kids are not aligned with the “typical” age group if they start late.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

Yup, and that's well and fine for schooling purposes and once you start holding back for multiple months, well sorry you won't be aligned with the "typical" age group.

Don’t disagree at all. But you can’t tell me Aug. kids are not aligned with the “typical” age group if they start late.

Well I was specifically replying to July/June... which is obviously the exact reason why GY poses so many problems. SY +60 poster feeling vindicated now, but I'm ready for a formal annoucement.

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Us soccer AGM starts tomorrow. Maybe they will leak a hint every day!

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

Yup, and that's well and fine for schooling purposes and once you start holding back for multiple months, well sorry you won't be aligned with the "typical" age group.

Don’t disagree at all. But you can’t tell me Aug. kids are not aligned with the “typical” age group if they start late.

Well I was specifically replying to July/June... which is obviously the exact reason why GY poses so many problems. SY +60 poster feeling vindicated now, but I'm ready for a formal annoucement.

SY+60 here, It only took a month for people to catch up.

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Anonymous wrote:Us soccer AGM starts tomorrow. Maybe they will leak a hint every day!

Start with the small leagues and work their way up to ECNL/MLsN on who’s going SY/BY.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

Yup, and that's well and fine for schooling purposes and once you start holding back for multiple months, well sorry you won't be aligned with the "typical" age group.

Don’t disagree at all. But you can’t tell me Aug. kids are not aligned with the “typical” age group if they start late.

Aug kids are not aligned with the “typical age group if they start late.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

Yup, and that's well and fine for schooling purposes and once you start holding back for multiple months, well sorry you won't be aligned with the "typical" age group.

Don’t disagree at all. But you can’t tell me Aug. kids are not aligned with the “typical” age group if they start late.

Well I was specifically replying to July/June... which is obviously the exact reason why GY poses so many problems. SY +60 poster feeling vindicated now, but I'm ready for a formal annoucement.

SY+60 here, It only took a month for people to catch up.

😂😂😂 I’m now for SY + 60!

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't you all been reading this forum? Birth month/quartile has nothing to do with it. Those Q1 players just train harder, have higher soccer IQ and just come from better genetic stock than any Q4 player. In fact, those Q1 players may be the best players to ever play for their respective clubs.

Yeah and the BY parents aren’t worried about the change to SY but object to it only because it’s too difficult to implement

I'm not sure how youth soccer survived when it changed from SY to BY in the fall of 2017. Guess it was a miracle.

Well technically for 4th qtr kids the dream did die lol

Q4 kids were pulled off their existing teams and told to play with kids the next grade up - as the youngest kids. It was good times.

Oh, you mean largely what is going to happen to older August born kids if they go with a 9/1 date - lose all their grade peers from BY team and play up a grade and be very youngest.

Most August kids are on the younger side for their grade. That’s why they want to do 9/1. The Majority of Aug 2011 are 8th graders.

They said they can fix everyone’s problems only can fix most. I understand the idea of allowing 8/1 and kids play up. They don’t want to do that.

What is basis for your statement that most/majority of August kids are on the younger side for their grade?

Also, when/where did they say they don’t want younger August kids to play up? Kids don’t have to if they don’t want to!

Meaning with the variety of school start dates the Amorite of August 2011s would be 8th graders. Obviously not all. That’s the way Us Club sees it.

They also said that on the ECNL podcast not a direct quote but along the lines of we know we 9/1 doesn’t work for everyone but works best for the majority.

This is a faulty assumption. The focus on how many states in the U.S. use a 9/1 school cutoff date does not necessarily correlate to a majority of August born kids being young for their grade. Many many August kids don’t start school just days after turning 5 and instead wait a year to enroll in Kindergarten, even in states where you have to have turned 5 by 9/1 in order to enroll. Hence why the 8/1 date was in place for decades before the move to BY registration in 2017, capturing those older August kids as well as the states with 8/1 cutoffs across the nation.

Absolutely agree. While the actual cutoff might be 9/1. School districts will let kids with August birthdays start late, making the cutoff really 8/1. We are talking about a month here.

If 9/1 is the cutoff, I hope there is a waiver process or rule that X number of players born earlier in the year AND in the same grade can play on the team.

Exactly. A school cutoff date is not a compulsory start date. Many, many people hold back August b-days, and even June and July.

Exactly lots of summer kids start late not necessarily held back. Will they keep U19 and have that age group be more of a GY one off for all the kids who started late or held back or whatever.

U17 and U18 would not allow for this if they go U17/19 then it would.