39k teacher salary at PVI

[Anonymous]

How do you attract competitive and quality teachers with such an insulting and lame salary?

https://www.arlingtondiocese.org/catholic-schools/careers/application/

[Anonymous]

You don’t

[Anonymous]

Some teachers, who happen to have bad memories of their time in public, also happen to be married to high-earners. Some also happen to be devout Catholics. There are lots of variables at play.

[Anonymous]

That's around 45k for full time work

You would never know from DCUM but a 45k new college starting salary is just slightly below the median which is 47k, once you factor in the liberal arts degree that salary is above average.

[Anonymous]

This is why teachers are dropping like flies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's around 45k for full time work

You would never know from DCUM but a 45k new college starting salary is just slightly below the median which is 47k, once you factor in the liberal arts degree that salary is above average.

45k for full time work is a garbage salary, and everyone knows it. We aren’t talking about a starting salary, either.

[Anonymous]

People wonder why tuition is cheaper at Catholic schools than independent schools. There’s your answer.

[Anonymous]

On the other hand, there are finance bros pulling six figures by moving electronic money around with a few mouse clicks, then convincing everyone at happy hour that they do meaningful, hard work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's around 45k for full time work

You would never know from DCUM but a 45k new college starting salary is just slightly below the median which is 47k, once you factor in the liberal arts degree that salary is above average.

Teaching 40 weeks a year IS full time work. It's less weeks, but more hours. (full time work is 40 hours a week, teaching is 50-60 hours a week).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, there are finance bros pulling six figures by moving electronic money around with a few mouse clicks, then convincing everyone at happy hour that they do meaningful, hard work.

They work from home, too. Teaching is an extremely difficult job. I don’t think people in other fields appreciate how exhausting it is to be fun and engaging in front of 30 kids who would rather be doing anything else. As an elementary school teacher, I prep for five lessons a day on five different topics. I have 40 minutes to plan for these, total. That time is often lost due to staff shortages, meetings, etc. so I have to do all of that at home. Even on a good day, I lose five minutes on each end of that period due to transitional complications (another class hasn’t been picked up from gym, a student is adamant that they need to find/do something, a parent calls, the school psychologist needs something from me…) so I literally run around that entire time, trying to prioritize everything I need to do. The planning can be done from anywhere but there are lots of elements of the job that MUST be done on site, like bulletin boards (ours have to be redone for each subject every week, with rubrics on every students’ work), malign copies, setting up art projects, working in their data binders (five inch binders meticulously organized for each child), organizing the classroom, and holding IEP meetings. This means that writing IEPs, analyzing data, collaborating with related service providers, planning units and lessons, and creating materials must all be completed at home. If you think this takes an extra hour a day, you are crazy. It’s more like three. My first year was spent crying and working alone at home while my friends in corporate jobs (making twice what I was) went to happy hour and vacationed with their families. THAT is why teachers are leaving. It’s demoralizing.

[Anonymous]

Discount on tuition? Guaranteed enrollment for you child? All private schools pay significantly less than public schools and the benefits are also inferior.

[Anonymous]

That bulletin board thing is ridiculous and you should notify someone over your principal’s head. I’m so sorry.

I recently retired, right before Covid. Most people have no idea how hard elementary teachers work. I know secondary teachers work hard, too, but elementary teachers have to manage all their students all day, and teach all the academic subjects, and so much more. There is no time to sit down and reflect on lessons or teaching of material. Don’t forget adapting lessons for different levels in the class, and having to manage the emotions of all the kids.

This data binder thing is crazy, too. You should transfer, if you possibly can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's around 45k for full time work

You would never know from DCUM but a 45k new college starting salary is just slightly below the median which is 47k, once you factor in the liberal arts degree that salary is above average.

45k for full time work is a garbage salary, and everyone knows it. We aren’t talking about a starting salary, either.

Can you read it's the starting salary genius

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, there are finance bros pulling six figures by moving electronic money around with a few mouse clicks, then convincing everyone at happy hour that they do meaningful, hard work.

They work from home, too. Teaching is an extremely difficult job. I don’t think people in other fields appreciate how exhausting it is to be fun and engaging in front of 30 kids who would rather be doing anything else. As an elementary school teacher, I prep for five lessons a day on five different topics. I have 40 minutes to plan for these, total. That time is often lost due to staff shortages, meetings, etc. so I have to do all of that at home. Even on a good day, I lose five minutes on each end of that period due to transitional complications (another class hasn’t been picked up from gym, a student is adamant that they need to find/do something, a parent calls, the school psychologist needs something from me…) so I literally run around that entire time, trying to prioritize everything I need to do. The planning can be done from anywhere but there are lots of elements of the job that MUST be done on site, like bulletin boards (ours have to be redone for each subject every week, with rubrics on every students’ work), malign copies, setting up art projects, working in their data binders (five inch binders meticulously organized for each child), organizing the classroom, and holding IEP meetings. This means that writing IEPs, analyzing data, collaborating with related service providers, planning units and lessons, and creating materials must all be completed at home. If you think this takes an extra hour a day, you are crazy. It’s more like three. My first year was spent crying and working alone at home while my friends in corporate jobs (making twice what I was) went to happy hour and vacationed with their families. THAT is why teachers are leaving. It’s demoralizing.

Didn't you know all this before you chose this major and career.

The finance bros are working double the amount of hours.... Feel free to get an MBA and join them though.

[Anonymous]

My daughter makes almost 70 in Fairfax, with really good benefits. Why would anyone teach for 39K?