Shutdown Rhetoric

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^for those of you who follow politics more than me - is there some benefit to voting at 10 pm or 1 am rather than say 7 pm?

I think it is a tactic on MCConnells part to attempt to force something to pass because it is very close to deadline and allows for little discussion.

But wasn’t that the point of the 10 pm on Friday vote - right up against the deadline? Apparently people wanted to convene a vote Thurs night to show it’’d fail and allow them to work on it all day Friday and he said no and adjoined the Senate fairly early Thurs night.

Exactly. It’s an ineffective and underhanded tactic, but, here we are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's ALREADY a deal to fund the government. It included DACA & CHIP. Both sides made concessions. Trump was going to sign it. He then backed out during his "shithole" rant in favor of an extremist position written by white nationalists.

THAT is what caused the TrumpShutdown

The Lindsey/Dick deal won’t even pass the senate. It will definitely get killed in the House. What makes you think the gang of six is going to pass when the gang of eight died? There is no deal for DACA.


This is certainly a #SchumerShutdown.

Graham-Durbin had more than 60 votes in the Senate. What the heck are you talking about?

Exactly. Send in the Graham-Durbin bill. Why won't Trump sign it?

I think bc of Steven Miller and trump’s base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's ALREADY a deal to fund the government. It included DACA & CHIP. Both sides made concessions. Trump was going to sign it. He then backed out during his "shithole" rant in favor of an extremist position written by white nationalists.

THAT is what caused the TrumpShutdown

The Lindsey/Dick deal won’t even pass the senate. It will definitely get killed in the House. What makes you think the gang of six is going to pass when the gang of eight died? There is no deal for DACA.


This is certainly a #SchumerShutdown.

Graham-Durbin had more than 60 votes in the Senate. What the heck are you talking about?

Exactly. Send in the Graham-Durbin bill. Why won't Trump sign it?

Let's start with basics. McConnell could score points for even bringing it to the floor. If Trump refuses to sign it, at least the Senate would show it is above the fray. And it is likely that Graham-Durbin would post a veto-proof majority.

[Anonymous]

Schumer is effectively in control of the Senate at this point. McConnell has no leverage or bargaining room. So he schedules a vote he can’t possibly win for the middle of the night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schumer is effectively in control of the Senate at this point. McConnell has no leverage or bargaining room. So he schedules a vote he can’t possibly win for the middle of the night.

If so, he didn’t have to try. McConnell and Trump got twisted up in their own tails and are now digging heels in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's ALREADY a deal to fund the government. It included DACA & CHIP. Both sides made concessions. Trump was going to sign it. He then backed out during his "shithole" rant in favor of an extremist position written by white nationalists.

THAT is what caused the TrumpShutdown

The Lindsey/Dick deal won’t even pass the senate. It will definitely get killed in the House. What makes you think the gang of six is going to pass when the gang of eight died? There is no deal for DACA.


This is certainly a #SchumerShutdown.

Graham-Durbin had more than 60 votes in the Senate. What the heck are you talking about?

Exactly. Send in the Graham-Durbin bill. Why won't Trump sign it?

I think bc of Steven Miller and trump’s base.

No, it’s a non-starter. Ryan won’t allow it to come to a vote in the House. GOP suicide pact.

[Anonymous]

Respect is earned. Neither Trump nor McConnell have earned it at this juncture. That could change, but the American public expects more from its representatives in Washington.

The longer this goes on, the more the GOP proves it cannot govern and has no interest in appealing to anything more than the 30% of support they currently have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schumer is effectively in control of the Senate at this point. McConnell has no leverage or bargaining room. So he schedules a vote he can’t possibly win for the middle of the night.

Oh my god, conservatives are dumb!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's ALREADY a deal to fund the government. It included DACA & CHIP. Both sides made concessions. Trump was going to sign it. He then backed out during his "shithole" rant in favor of an extremist position written by white nationalists.

THAT is what caused the TrumpShutdown

The Lindsey/Dick deal won’t even pass the senate. It will definitely get killed in the House. What makes you think the gang of six is going to pass when the gang of eight died? There is no deal for DACA.


This is certainly a #SchumerShutdown.

Graham-Durbin had more than 60 votes in the Senate. What the heck are you talking about?

It would die in the house even if they had 60 votes. Can you name the 11 Senate Republicans? You can’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's ALREADY a deal to fund the government. It included DACA & CHIP. Both sides made concessions. Trump was going to sign it. He then backed out during his "shithole" rant in favor of an extremist position written by white nationalists.

THAT is what caused the TrumpShutdown

The Lindsey/Dick deal won’t even pass the senate. It will definitely get killed in the House. What makes you think the gang of six is going to pass when the gang of eight died? There is no deal for DACA.


This is certainly a #SchumerShutdown.

Graham-Durbin had more than 60 votes in the Senate. What the heck are you talking about?

Exactly. Send in the Graham-Durbin bill. Why won't Trump sign it?

See below. Ryan has nothing to gain politically by crossing Trump, the Freedom Caucus and the Racist Caucus (Steve King, Gohmert, etc.) by allowing Graham-Durbin to come to the floor for a vote. It would effectively put an end his Speakership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's ALREADY a deal to fund the government. It included DACA & CHIP. Both sides made concessions. Trump was going to sign it. He then backed out during his "shithole" rant in favor of an extremist position written by white nationalists.

THAT is what caused the TrumpShutdown

The Lindsey/Dick deal won’t even pass the senate. It will definitely get killed in the House. What makes you think the gang of six is going to pass when the gang of eight died? There is no deal for DACA.


This is certainly a #SchumerShutdown.

Graham-Durbin had more than 60 votes in the Senate. What the heck are you talking about?

It would die in the house even if they had 60 votes. Can you name the 11 Senate Republicans? You can’t.

I don't think GOP congresspeople from COL, NV, AZ, CA, FL and TX want to face voters after opposing DACA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Master dealmaker can't make a deal so now wants McConnell to go to the nuclear option.

I would guess many in the GOP would even vote against that rule change. The precedent it would set would be irreversible for our country.

McConnells office just came out and said they won’t change the rules.

Which makes sense. He goes nuclear, the Dems who voted R back out, and he lacks a simple majority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's ALREADY a deal to fund the government. It included DACA & CHIP. Both sides made concessions. Trump was going to sign it. He then backed out during his "shithole" rant in favor of an extremist position written by white nationalists.

THAT is what caused the TrumpShutdown

The Lindsey/Dick deal won’t even pass the senate. It will definitely get killed in the House. What makes you think the gang of six is going to pass when the gang of eight died? There is no deal for DACA.


This is certainly a #SchumerShutdown.

Graham-Durbin had more than 60 votes in the Senate. What the heck are you talking about?

Exactly. Send in the Graham-Durbin bill. Why won't Trump sign it?

See below. Ryan has nothing to gain politically by crossing Trump, the Freedom Caucus and the Racist Caucus (Steve King, Gohmert, etc.) by allowing Graham-Durbin to come to the floor for a vote. It would effectively put an end his Speakership.

Yep. But, you know, it’s schumer and the Democrats that are holding the government hostage. /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Master dealmaker can't make a deal so now wants McConnell to go to the nuclear option.

I would guess many in the GOP would even vote against that rule change. The precedent it would set would be irreversible for our country.

McConnells office just came out and said they won’t change the rules.

Which makes sense. He goes nuclear, the Dems who voted R back out, and he lacks a simple majority.

McConnell knows the nuclear option would seal Democratic control and impeachment. He’s gotta play the long game right now:

[Anonymous]

Trump has f*cked McConnell and the Americans who are losing government services. So.Much.Winning.