What do you think of YIMBYs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YIMBY's all seem to be the same person: downwardly mobile millennial white guy who feels entitled to live anywhere they want despite not being able to afford it, has a lot of issues about growing up in upper class suburbs and arrogantly believes that either everyone wants what they want or should have what they want them to have.

As with anything, women and minorities that adopt these viewpoints get promoted in media, but it's just window dressing for these incel white dudes.

it's always white people who are desperate to live in predominantly white neighborhoods. gotta wonder why they're so eager to live among other white people. there's lots of affordable housing if you dont have to live WOTP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

And anyone who can buy a house there is welcome to! Why are they special and why should they get some sort of special carve out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

Who exactly is stopping them from being able to raise a family there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

Who exactly is stopping them from being able to raise a family there?

I think you meant "what", and the answer is M O N E Y. As you well know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

And anyone who can buy a house there is welcome to! Why are they special and why should they get some sort of special carve out?

Or, maybe there can be a mix of housing types, so that renters as well as owners, people with not that much money as well as people with lots of money, families with children as well as young couples, are able to live and share in your nice neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

It's secretly racist when we people "liking your neighborhood" means wanting to build duplexes, but not when "liking your neighborhood" means wanting only to build SFHs. Welcome to NIMBY jujitsu.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

Who exactly is stopping them from being able to raise a family there?

I think you meant "what", and the answer is M O N E Y. As you well know.

OH! It's money! Thanks for that.

I want a Tesla. I cant afford it based on my salary, but I really want one for my family. My neighbor has one. It's only fair right?

[Anonymous]

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OH! It's money! Thanks for that.

I want a Tesla. I cant afford it based on my salary, but I really want one for my family. My neighbor has one. It's only fair right?

I wasn't in the meetings. Were they asking to be given a five-bedroom million-dollar detached house in AU Park? Or were they asking for housing they can afford in AU Park? The two do not have to be identical.

I mean, obviously you want the only housing option in AU Park (or whatever the area you live in is)) to be the five-bedroom million-dollar house (or whatever the housing type in the area you live in is), and you get to have your preferences, but don't be surprised when people refer to you as an exclusionary NIMBY.

Did people stand up in the meetings and say, "We think people should only be allowed to live here if they have a lot of money?"

[Anonymous]

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OH! It's money! Thanks for that.

I want a Tesla. I cant afford it based on my salary, but I really want one for my family. My neighbor has one. It's only fair right?

I wasn't in the meetings. Were they asking to be given a five-bedroom million-dollar detached house in AU Park? Or were they asking for housing they can afford in AU Park? The two do not have to be identical.

I mean, obviously you want the only housing option in AU Park (or whatever the area you live in is)) to be the five-bedroom million-dollar house (or whatever the housing type in the area you live in is), and you get to have your preferences, but don't be surprised when people refer to you as an exclusionary NIMBY.

Did people stand up in the meetings and say, "We think people should only be allowed to live here if they have a lot of money?"

Look I believe in mixed housing and housing of different price ranges in neighborhoods.

But the idea of a family now thinking that they are somehow entitled to a "starter home at a reasonable price", in their chosen neighborhood....?

What makes them special compared to the hundreds/thousands of other people who want a house in that neighborhood?? People buy where they can afford.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

And anyone who can buy a house there is welcome to! Why are they special and why should they get some sort of special carve out?

No one us asking for a special carve out. They are asking for a variety of housing stock so, for example, they could buy or rent a 3 BR apartment/condo and stay in the neighborhood at a lower price point than a SFH.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

Who exactly is stopping them from being able to raise a family there?

I think you meant "what", and the answer is M O N E Y. As you well know.

OH! It's money! Thanks for that.

I want a Tesla. I cant afford it based on my salary, but I really want one for my family. My neighbor has one. It's only fair right?

bad example. there are other, more cost effective electric vehicles available on the market; one need not rely solely on being able to afford a tesla

[Anonymous]

You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

[Anonymous]

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Look I believe in mixed housing and housing of different price ranges in neighborhoods.

But the idea of a family now thinking that they are somehow entitled to a "starter home at a reasonable price", in their chosen neighborhood....?

What makes them special compared to the hundreds/thousands of other people who want a house in that neighborhood?? People buy where they can afford.

Which is exactly why it's good to have a variety of housing types available for people with different budgets and different needs.