CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place

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Anonymous wrote:Questions for teachers :

The precautions in this study were mask wearing all the time, proper ventilation, and social distancing.

1. Do schools have proper ventilation?

2. What is the plan for mask-wearing and social distancing during lunch?

TIA

LOL! Um, nope. It's never been as important as paying huge salaries to those in district headquarters.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?

From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.

There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.

And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."



https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/

I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about bringing it home to my elderly mother.

And that is a legitimate concern. As a parent I want you to know that I support you in knowing that the health of your mother is more important than returning to work in school. Some of these parents are so dug in right now that no amount of discussion will change their position. Ignore them and do what you need to do to keep your family safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have known this for months. This is not news.

This article is about a data review done by the CDC and released this week. My old friend is working on it. This is preliminary information but the first US-based, broad data that we've gotten. So yes, it is news. Try reading the article.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?

From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.

There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.

And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."



https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/

I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about bringing it home to my elderly mother.

And that is a legitimate concern. As a parent I want you to know that I support you in knowing that the health of your mother is more important than returning to work in school. Some of these parents are so dug in right now that no amount of discussion will change their position. Ignore them and do what you need to do to keep your family safe.

If protecting her mother's health is really her concern, then she should have thought about this long before this pandemic. With the full vaccination, she is at extremely low risk of passing that on to her mother--many of viruses pose a bigger risk,which they always have. Her argument is disengenuous. I don't know if these teachers really feel this way because of the fear-mongering and disinformation that has been so rampant, or just don't want to do their jobs anymore. Either way, this particular teacher should probably never return to work if she is truly concerned that teaching poses a risk to her mother.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?

From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.

There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.

And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."



https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/

I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about bringing it home to my elderly mother.

And that is a legitimate concern. As a parent I want you to know that I support you in knowing that the health of your mother is more important than returning to work in school. Some of these parents are so dug in right now that no amount of discussion will change their position. Ignore them and do what you need to do to keep your family safe.

If protecting her mother's health is really her concern, then she should have thought about this long before this pandemic. With the full vaccination, she is at extremely low risk of passing that on to her mother--many of viruses pose a bigger risk,which they always have. Her argument is disengenuous. I don't know if these teachers really feel this way because of the fear-mongering and disinformation that has been so rampant, or just don't want to do their jobs anymore. Either way, this particular teacher should probably never return to work if she is truly concerned that teaching poses a risk to her mother.

But as of right now most in person teachers aren’t fully vaccinated and have no idea when they will receive even the first dose.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?

From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.

There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.

And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."



https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/

I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about bringing it home to my elderly mother.

And that is a legitimate concern. As a parent I want you to know that I support you in knowing that the health of your mother is more important than returning to work in school. Some of these parents are so dug in right now that no amount of discussion will change their position. Ignore them and do what you need to do to keep your family safe.

Shouldn't elderly mother have a covid shot by this point? Stop hiding behind mom as an excuse. 20 kids can't attend school because of your mom right now. That's 20 families dealing with the stress of homeschooling. As an essential worker in a different sector, I do not get to choose to make my job virtual because I decided to bring grandma to live with us. I would quit the job that I am unable to do if I were in that situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CDC team reviewed data from studies in the United States and abroad and found the experience in schools different from nursing homes and high-density worksites where rapid spread has occurred.

“The preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring,” wrote three CDC researchers in a viewpoint piece published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/cdc-school-virus-spread/2021/01/26/bf949222-5fe6-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html

The only discussion we should be having now is how fast we should be opening.

Please email this to all SB reps!!!!

The CDC also said we shouldn’t wear masks. They say what they need to say to get the economy going. Any other sources?

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Anonymous wrote:This also says that if we want to open safely, some indoor sports without masks, like wrestling, should not take place. Chantilly has had indoor sports outbreaks. Please also tell the SB that Brabrand can and should choose not to follow VSHL, like Arlington did, and should immediately stop the indoor sports that are causing outbreaks so that school can reopen safely. It’s ridulous that kids are indoors wrestling without masks in FCPS while the littles try to learn to read on laptops at home.

+1. For some reason sports are prioritized above all else. Mind boggling.

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC team reviewed data from studies in the United States and abroad and found the experience in schools different from nursing homes and high-density worksites where rapid spread has occurred.

“The preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring,” wrote three CDC researchers in a viewpoint piece published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/cdc-school-virus-spread/2021/01/26/bf949222-5fe6-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html

The only discussion we should be having now is how fast we should be opening.

Please email this to all SB reps!!!!

The CDC also said we shouldn’t wear masks. They say what they need to say to get the economy going. Any other sources?

They’re also saying that grocery stores are dangerous now. Guess we shouldn’t believe that one either?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?

From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.

There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.

And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."



https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/

I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about bringing it home to my elderly mother.

And that is a legitimate concern. As a parent I want you to know that I support you in knowing that the health of your mother is more important than returning to work in school. Some of these parents are so dug in right now that no amount of discussion will change their position. Ignore them and do what you need to do to keep your family safe.

Shouldn't elderly mother have a covid shot by this point? Stop hiding behind mom as an excuse. 20 kids can't attend school because of your mom right now. That's 20 families dealing with the stress of homeschooling. As an essential worker in a different sector, I do not get to choose to make my job virtual because I decided to bring grandma to live with us. I would quit the job that I am unable to do if I were in that situation.

+1. Get on the phone and call around and get the elderly grandma vaccinated. I know someone who did this for her parents- all of these places giving vaccines have leftovers at the end of the day. Get on their waiting lists.

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC team reviewed data from studies in the United States and abroad and found the experience in schools different from nursing homes and high-density worksites where rapid spread has occurred.

“The preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring,” wrote three CDC researchers in a viewpoint piece published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/cdc-school-virus-spread/2021/01/26/bf949222-5fe6-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html

The only discussion we should be having now is how fast we should be opening.

Please email this to all SB reps!!!!

The CDC also said we shouldn’t wear masks. They say what they need to say to get the economy going. Any other sources?

They’re also saying that grocery stores are dangerous now. Guess we shouldn’t believe that one either?

It’s all safe!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This also says that if we want to open safely, some indoor sports without masks, like wrestling, should not take place. Chantilly has had indoor sports outbreaks. Please also tell the SB that Brabrand can and should choose not to follow VSHL, like Arlington did, and should immediately stop the indoor sports that are causing outbreaks so that school can reopen safely. It’s ridulous that kids are indoors wrestling without masks in FCPS while the littles try to learn to read on laptops at home.

+1. For some reason sports are prioritized above all else. Mind boggling.

In many places, sports have been allowed because coaches and other adults were willing to make them happen. It's not about prioritizing them over school, but the fact that the adults in charge were willing to take on the risk to continue the activities.

[Anonymous]

I am confused why the CDC is basing this recommendation off a rural school district in Wisconsin. Good grief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Questions for teachers :

The precautions in this study were mask wearing all the time, proper ventilation, and social distancing.

1. Do schools have proper ventilation?

2. What is the plan for mask-wearing and social distancing during lunch?

TIA

LOL! Um, nope. It's never been as important as paying huge salaries to those in district headquarters.

Do the research and don't just answer without it. Yes, FCPS has already tested it and it was met the requirements. They also upgraded with filters which APS recently agreed to do as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am confused why the CDC is basing this recommendation off a rural school district in Wisconsin. Good grief.

17** rural school districts.

is there something different about rural school districts in terms of spread than there is a district like FFX? Why would the research not be applicable to other types of schools? If anything, i'd say this study is even more promising as rural school districts lack resources compared to a district like Fairfax or MoCo .