Controversial opinion: Against “Body diversity” in social media ads

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Anonymous wrote:A bit off topic but I think the obesity epidemic has roots in the flavor enchanting food science. ALL food is flavor enhanced but fresh produce. (Even then if they could find a way) Fruits are very fattening and their production period has been way extended. For examples strawberries used to be a week or so in spring. Now all the time. Avocados the same.
If you doubt me try eating something you don’t like. You will find yourself stopping before you are even full! This makes it VERY difficult to diet. And kids get obese very young. Sadly.

Fruit is not fattening. In fact, no food is fattening if eaten in moderation.

Not true my doctor told me to cut out fruit because my body could not handle "that much sugar".

I was only eating 2 eggs, veggies, fruit and 4-8oz of meat a day. I limited my veggies to 1 cup a day and still was overweight.

You have a lot of issues. Fruit isn't your problem, you are your problem.

+1000

That's like 600 calories. When I was obese, I underestimated how many calories I was eating, and overestimated how much activity I was getting. Fruit doesn't make you fat. The sugar in fruit doesn't make anyone fat. If overweight you're living in 2 eggs, veggies, fruit, and 1 serving of meat a day... you're a scientific and medical anomaly and should be a guinea pig for every medical journal on earth. More than likely... you were not estimateing your food/drinks correctly every single day.

[Anonymous]

More Ashley Graham and Mindy Kaling. Less Tess Holiday and Lizzo.

You can represent different shapes and sizes and normal everyday bodies without glorifying obesity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More Ashley Graham and Mindy Kaling. Less Tess Holiday and Lizzo.

You can represent different shapes and sizes and normal everyday bodies without glorifying obesity.

Also more Queen Latifah, Christina Hendricks, Georgia Pratt.

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Some of the overweight models are very beautiful. Don’t hate yourself and things like that won’t bother you. Try to always remember that ads are made to capture attention. If an ad featuring an overweight model captures your attention by being “gross” it was designed like that on purpose, playing on your insecurities. Don’t let it get to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More Ashley Graham and Mindy Kaling. Less Tess Holiday and Lizzo.

You can represent different shapes and sizes and normal everyday bodies without glorifying obesity.

How about glorifying the people and what they contribute to society, and ignoring what their bodies look like if you’re not your thing?

Anorexia has been glorified for years, and no one said $h*t.

This board glamourizes EDs every day, while demonizing even healthy BMIs as “too fat”.

Yeah, we need more Lizzo, who is confident, beautiful, and damn right talented and smart. These people are not just the perception and judgement of their bodies as you see them.

[Anonymous]

OP - I agree with you. Yes, I don't want to see someone anorexic but I don't want to see someone obese modeling a bikini either. Just get a normal sized, fit person to model.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many professional modeling agencies that deal with big fashion brands only have two divisions--traditional models and plus-sized. So anything not in those two is basically ignored.

Anytime you see a woman who doesn't fit into those buckets in high fashion print or runway it is almost ALWAYS an exception and some special celebrity appearance by a woman who has done something amazing, like win multiple Oscars, like Kate Winslet.

https://www.eonline.com/news/285235/nailed-it-kate-winslet-s-new-st-john-ads-are-stunning

I'd love to more professional models that looked like her in high fashion--neither traditional model build nor plus size. Her body looks amazing in the clothing.

Have you ever looked at LL Bean? Those models look healthy and a normal weight.


https://www.llbean.com/shop/shopByCatalog/index.html

LL Bean isn't exactly "fashion" though.

It is for people in Maine! Also you just asked for examples of "normal" models and I gave you example and now you move the goal posts. Arent they models too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More Ashley Graham and Mindy Kaling. Less Tess Holiday and Lizzo.

You can represent different shapes and sizes and normal everyday bodies without glorifying obesity.

How about glorifying the people and what they contribute to society, and ignoring what their bodies look like if you’re not your thing?

Anorexia has been glorified for years, and no one said $h*t.

This board glamourizes EDs every day, while demonizing even healthy BMIs as “too fat”.

Yeah, we need more Lizzo, who is confident, beautiful, and damn right talented and smart. These people are not just the perception and judgement of their bodies as you see them.

Lizzo is crude like showing a woman's crotch with a pad hanging out. We don't need crude from people at any size.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More Ashley Graham and Mindy Kaling. Less Tess Holiday and Lizzo.

You can represent different shapes and sizes and normal everyday bodies without glorifying obesity.

And less of that individual on the Calvin Klein billboard. The decision to make that happen was trying way too hard to be woke.

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Avocado 234 calories, pineapples 452 calories ...

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP

There is a new Halo ice cream commercial with an obese woman dancing around in her underwear and it’s gross.

I am an overweight woman and yes I think I am less attractive because of it.

I disagree. Overweight women dressed in good fitting classy outfits look really good.
Lizzo is disgusting only because she doesn't have a class and dresses inappropriately for her size/curves. Just like the skinny ones in half-a-butt shorts or a side boob dresses.
It's all about class.

Overweight PP here and no, fat is fat. Fat women don’t look any better in tailored clothing because they are still fat. It’s just no attractive. I always think of that terrible phrase “it’s like putting lipstick on a pig”. As terrible as it sounds it’s pretty accurate. Some fat women go to great lengths to do heavy make up and over do their hair but it’s just doesn’t really make a difference. They are still just pretty fat women. I used to be a lot more overweight and I really believed people like PP bc very few people in real life will be honest and tell you how disgusted fat people are to them. Once I lost a good bit of weight people suddenly started commenting all the time to me about other people’s weight and I realized that what they weren’t saying to me out loud was how gross they thought I was when I was fatter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Avocado 234 calories, pineapples 452 calories ...

So... you can eat 2 entire avocados and 2 entire pineapples every day and not gain weight? Sounds pretty awesome, actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a wider range of body types represented in commercials and magazines when I was growing up. Instead I wasted years of my youth pinching my tummy and thinking I was obese because my hip bones weren't sticking out like the models in YM and 17. I'm guessing OP grew up in the 80s, 90s or early 2000s when really thin models were glamorized. Its hard to shake your brain free of "good = skinny" and "bad = fat" but I hope that future generations of young women won't waste as much time thinking they are "less than" because of their weight and body shape. OP, it will probably always be jarring for our generation but ultimately, its a good thing.

If the content on the Tiktok app I’ve been watching (in a quarantine stupor) is representative of girls’ self esteem (ranging from teens- 20s) we are all in trouble. It is all about restrictive eating and “being strong” is now the faux feminist code for the de rigueur: “cut, fit, muscular.” It’s not enough just to be thin. Nothing wrong with being strong, but it is ALL still about physical appearance with these poor girls. I wouldn’t worry too much about fat acceptance, our young women seem to have internalized the bodies as currency concept, just like previous generations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a wider range of body types represented in commercials and magazines when I was growing up. Instead I wasted years of my youth pinching my tummy and thinking I was obese because my hip bones weren't sticking out like the models in YM and 17. I'm guessing OP grew up in the 80s, 90s or early 2000s when really thin models were glamorized. Its hard to shake your brain free of "good = skinny" and "bad = fat" but I hope that future generations of young women won't waste as much time thinking they are "less than" because of their weight and body shape. OP, it will probably always be jarring for our generation but ultimately, its a good thing.

If the content on the Tiktok app I’ve been watching (in a quarantine stupor) is representative of girls’ self esteem (ranging from teens- 20s) we are all in trouble. It is all about restrictive eating and “being strong” is now the faux feminist code for the de rigueur: “cut, fit, muscular.” It’s not enough just to be thin. Nothing wrong with being strong, but it is ALL still about physical appearance with these poor girls. I wouldn’t worry too much about fat acceptance, our young women seem to have internalized the bodies as currency concept, just like previous generations.

Huh? How is this a problem? Being strong? Sounds like they are focusing on building strength and fitness. This is very different than being a waif or some dainty 100 lb damsel in distress. I think that’s awesome.

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I have no idea where are you seeing these ads? Granted I don't have cable. Not once did any such pop up add show up on my laptop.