Trump is using military to keep his Scotland property afloat

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The 2014 deal between the Trump Org and the airport had nothing to do with the US Air Force. That is a more recent development.

The 2014 deal with Trump and the airport proves that Trump has something to do with the airport, which is what he denied today.

Also, this:

“The Scottish government has also drawn attention for considering steering business to Turnberry as part of its courtship of the U.S. military.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2018-07-13/trump-s-u-k-trip-a-money-losing-scottish-golf-paradise?__twitter_impression=true
Anonymous
“A US Defence Department agency has postponed a lucrative new military aircraft refuelling deal with Glasgow Prestwick Airport amid multiple investigations and growing political scrutiny on both sides of the Atlantic into US military patronage and spending at the loss making hub and President Donald Trump’s flagship Scottish resort.”
https://www.scotsman.com/news/us-military-fuel-deal-with-prestwick-kicked-into-long-grass-over-trump-investigation-1-5002381/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Anonymous
NY TImes

TRUMP TURNBERRY STAFF CONFIRM: Military stays at Trump Doonbeg have been a regular occurrence, with buses carrying soldiers or Marines arriving as late as 2 a.m.

Less expensive hotels are right next to the airport.

The Trump resort is a 40-minute drive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NY TImes

TRUMP TURNBERRY STAFF CONFIRM: Military stays at Trump Doonbeg have been a regular occurrence, with buses carrying soldiers or Marines arriving as late as 2 a.m.

Less expensive hotels are right next to the airport.

The Trump resort is a 40-minute drive.


Republicans only care about fiscal responsibility when Democrats are in charge. If it's their own party, it's the gravy train!
Anonymous
40 trips by the military over the last few years.
Anonymous
But see, Trump supporters thinks this is “smart” and evidence he’s a “good businessman.” Plus, “But but Hillary’s emails!”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NY TImes

TRUMP TURNBERRY STAFF CONFIRM: Military stays at Trump Doonbeg have been a regular occurrence, with buses carrying soldiers or Marines arriving as late as 2 a.m.

Less expensive hotels are right next to the airport.

The Trump resort is a 40-minute drive.


This is an outrageous abuse of the office of the President. Keep it coming whistleblowers! We know there’s a lot more!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But see, Trump supporters thinks this is “smart” and evidence he’s a “good businessman.” Plus, “But but Hillary’s emails!”


Seriously.

Amoral scum.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NY TImes

TRUMP TURNBERRY STAFF CONFIRM: Military stays at Trump Doonbeg have been a regular occurrence, with buses carrying soldiers or Marines arriving as late as 2 a.m.

Less expensive hotels are right next to the airport.

The Trump resort is a 40-minute drive.


What rate is military paying?
Anonymous
The USAF is using this “since 2015” language, and not giving us a breakdown of # of stays since 2017. But a couple figures worth noting:

1) Turnberry was closed for renovations from 9/2015-mid 2016.

2 Overnights in the area have increased from 40 in 2015, to 220 in 2018-2019.

- Natasha Bertrand


So given that Turnbury was closed until mid 2016, it seems most of those 220 crew stays "since 2015" would have taken place in 2017, 2018 and 2019.

The bigger issue is how much more the USAF is paying for fuel at the private airport and who is getting the graft on that?
Anonymous
Correction, 220 stays per year. 10-20 crew members per stay, that is a lot of room nights that the US Military is paying to the President.
Anonymous
Another non-scandal that Dems are trying mightily to make a scandal.

The controversial arrangement by the U.S. Air Force to refuel at a Scottish airport near President Trump’s Turnberry golf resort apparently was signed under the Obama administration, according to multiple reports.

The details emerged as the Air Force was called to explain a March stopover in the Scottish resort -- with Democrats on the House Oversight Committee writing to Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan as part of their investigation into alleged conflicts of interest by the president. The twist revealing that the airport deal predates his administration could boost Trump's case.

Politico, which was among the outlets to publish stories this week examining the relationship between the Air Force and the resort, reported that the Air Force crews stayed at Trump’s Scottish resort up to 40 times since 2015.

It also reported that the contract with the Prestwick Airport was in fact signed during the Obama administration. The Washington Post also reported that the airport was sending visiting crews to Trump’s course before he ran for president.

The Air Force said in a statement that relatively few crews stayed at Trump Turnberry between 2015 and 2019.

“We reviewed the vast majority of the 659 overnight stays of Air Force crews in the vicinity at Glasgow Prestwick Airport between 2015 and 2019. Approximately six percent of those crews stayed at the Trump Turnberry,” the statement from an Air Force official said. “As a practice, we generally send aircrews to the closest, most suitable accommodations within the government hotel rate. The review also indicated that about 75 percent of the crews stayed in the immediate vicinity of the airfield and 18 percent stayed in Glasgow.”


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/air-force-deal-with-airport-turnberry
Anonymous
Trump is still directly benefiting. No one said Trump ordered this, but he is making money off of your tax dollars, when there are cheaper options near the airport or on US/RAF bases elsewhere.

Domestic emolument is still illegal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump is still directly benefiting. No one said Trump ordered this, but he is making money off of your tax dollars, when there are cheaper options near the airport or on US/RAF bases elsewhere.

Domestic emolument is still illegal.


They paid the government rate. Or, less than the govt. rate.

"The New York Times, meanwhile, found that the deal involved the Air Force paying a discounted rate of as little as $130 a night, compared with a typical rate of more than $300 a night. It was one of 13 hotels booked by the airport, and is approximately 40 minutes away from the airport."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337

In early Spring of this year, an Air National Guard crew made a routine trip from the U.S. to Kuwait to deliver supplies.

What wasn’t routine was where the crew stopped along the way: President Donald Trump’s Turnberry resort, about 50 miles outside Glasgow, Scotland.

Since April, the House Oversight Committee has been investigating why the crew on the C-17 military transport plane made the unusual stay — both en route to the Middle East and on the way back — at the luxury waterside resort, according to several people familiar with the incident. But they have yet to receive any answers from the Pentagon.

The inquiry is part of a broader, previously unreported probe into U.S. military expenditures at and around the Trump property in Scotland. According to a letter the panel sent to the Pentagon in June, the military has spent $11 million on fuel at the Prestwick Airport — the closest airport to Trump Turnberry — since October 2017, fuel that would be cheaper if purchased at a U.S. military base. The letter also cites a Guardian report that the airport provided cut-rate rooms and free rounds of golf at Turnberry for U.S. military members.

Taken together, the incidents raise the possibility that the military has helped keep Trump’s Turnberry resort afloat — the property lost $4.5 million in 2017, but revenue went up $3 million in 2018.

On previous trips to the Middle East, the C-17 had landed at U.S. air bases such as Ramstein Air Base in Germany or Naval Station Rota in Spain to refuel, according to one person familiar with the trips. Occasionally the plane stopped in the Azores and once in Sigonella, Italy, both of which have U.S. military sites, the person added.

But on this particular trip, the plane landed in Glasgow — a pitstop the five-man crew had never experienced in their dozens of trips to the Middle East. The location lacked a U.S. base and was dozens of miles away from the crew’s overnight lodging at the Turnberry resort.


How long the country will go on keeping quiet? Where does this end?


Hi! Policy signed under—you guessed it—Obama.
Sorry guys but you can blame America’s worst president for your latest temper tantrum.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/air-force-deal-to-refuel-near-trump-resort-signed-while-obama-was-president-reports_3081215.html
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