Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant

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Elle Woods never would have graduated top in her class at Harvard Law without it.

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My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear sorority people, how has this stuff even made your life better after you graduated?

to an outsider, it all sounds pretty pathetic

As a female engineer who moved for jobs and was in a male-dominated profession. my sorority alumni groups were very helpful. It was so nice to have a built in network in new cities and some social events already planned. How many times does a DCUM thread pop up lamenting how hard it is to make adult friends? Alumni groups help you make friends.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

Hmmm, I dont think its true that you have to have connections or to have gown to a southern high school to get into a top house. DD attended a private day school in Philadelphia. A few kids each year go to SEC schools, ex South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn over the last 3 years. Almost all have joined sororities without specific connections. From the look of things on instagram you can see the sororities they join broadly align with the type of kid they were in high school -- popular outgoing, nice kid, friendly, etc. I dont think sororities are devil or the best things since sliced bread; they are what they are. If you want to rush, do it; dont be intimidated out of the process by wild rumors.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

Hmmm, I dont think its true that you have to have connections or to have gown to a southern high school to get into a top house. DD attended a private day school in Philadelphia. A few kids each year go to SEC schools, ex South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn over the last 3 years. Almost all have joined sororities without specific connections. From the look of things on instagram you can see the sororities they join broadly align with the type of kid they were in high school -- popular outgoing, nice kid, friendly, etc. I dont think sororities are devil or the best things since sliced bread; they are what they are. If you want to rush, do it; dont be intimidated out of the process by wild rumors.

I don’t think sororities are the devil- I was in one at UVA but it wasn’t as competitive to get into a top house within connections. Just wondering if any other regions besides the SEC require additional effort.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

Hmmm, I dont think its true that you have to have connections or to have gown to a southern high school to get into a top house. DD attended a private day school in Philadelphia. A few kids each year go to SEC schools, ex South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn over the last 3 years. Almost all have joined sororities without specific connections. From the look of things on instagram you can see the sororities they join broadly align with the type of kid they were in high school -- popular outgoing, nice kid, friendly, etc. I dont think sororities are devil or the best things since sliced bread; they are what they are. If you want to rush, do it; dont be intimidated out of the process by wild rumors.

+1. The familial, “do you have a recognizable last name” connections are a little important, maybe in a “tiebreaker” sense, but in the end two things are true: 1) there are far more OOS students at Alabama/Georgia/Florida/Clemson/etc. now than there were in the 80s and 90s, and 2) the sororities aren’t going to pass up a great candidate just because she’s not from that state or because her family isn’t “known.”

I took a quick glance at the exec board of a sorority chapter at Alabama, and only 3 of the I think 10 girls were from Alabama and 3 weren’t from the South at all (Illinois, Maryland, and California).

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

Hmmm, I dont think its true that you have to have connections or to have gown to a southern high school to get into a top house. DD attended a private day school in Philadelphia. A few kids each year go to SEC schools, ex South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn over the last 3 years. Almost all have joined sororities without specific connections. From the look of things on instagram you can see the sororities they join broadly align with the type of kid they were in high school -- popular outgoing, nice kid, friendly, etc. I dont think sororities are devil or the best things since sliced bread; they are what they are. If you want to rush, do it; dont be intimidated out of the process by wild rumors.

+1. The familial, “do you have a recognizable last name” connections are a little important, maybe in a “tiebreaker” sense, but in the end two things are true: 1) there are far more OOS students at Alabama/Georgia/Florida/Clemson/etc. now than there were in the 80s and 90s, and 2) the sororities aren’t going to pass up a great candidate just because she’s not from that state or because her family isn’t “known.”

I took a quick glance atthe exec board of a sorority chapter at Alabama, and only 3 of the I think 10 girls were from Alabama and 3 weren’t from the South at all (Illinois, Maryland, and California).

Right, but if the top houses are making up pledge lists before rush has even started, it doesn’t matter what the makeup of the exec board is.

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Weeding through 1000 girls for a pledge class of 100-150, they’re first going to be much more concerned about GPA, test scores, and whether or not you can pay your dues all four years. So maybe coming from private school implies you can afford it, but i can’t see a bunch of 19-20 year old girls being impressed with “name recognition “ unless the parents are actually famous.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

The "worse house" in the SEC is "better" (higher GPA, prettier women, more extracurricular leadership) than most "top houses" at most schools. If you are going to the SEC, accept the bid you get and be happy. Don't listen to the haters.

Indiana is the only school as competitive as the SEC. Indiana doesn't guarantee placement for women who compete recruitment. Women can be invited to the preference round and still go bidless.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

The "worse house" in the SEC is "better" (higher GPA, prettier women, more extracurricular leadership) than most "top houses" at most schools. If you are going to the SEC, accept the bid you get and be happy. Don't listen to the haters.

Indiana is the only school as competitive as the SEC. Indiana doesn't guarantee placement for women who compete recruitment. Women can be invited to the preference round and still go bidless.

Thanks for the feedback. How competitive are southern schools like UNC, Duke, Vanderbilt, Tulane, Clemson?

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I can’t help but see the sneering losers who would never get in a sorority because no social skills in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the tiered house ranking is the worst part of it. Why would somebody want to sign up for a "bottom house" if they didn't have to? Why would you want that label attached to you?

It’s not an official ranking, but I understand.

PP’s stereotypes are not without merit. It’s not “all” moms and girls, but it’s very southern. Southern culture is just still really into social status and finding every way possible to make sure you know who’s better “bred”/richer/more important than the rest. I live here now. I see it all the time. OTOH, some girls just feel like it makes a big school smaller and gives them an instant social life.

Wow, that's like the very definition of the DC-area. (minus the "better bred")...

I do have to wonder how many of those being critical of OP are SAHMs with college degrees who are hiring consultants to get Larla into Sidwell so she can go to an Ivy. “Well, I married a rich law firm partner and quit work, but it’s ok because that wasn’t my goal in life!”

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

The "worse house" in the SEC is "better" (higher GPA, prettier women, more extracurricular leadership) than most "top houses" at most schools. If you are going to the SEC, accept the bid you get and be happy. Don't listen to the haters.

Indiana is the only school as competitive as the SEC. Indiana doesn't guarantee placement for women who compete recruitment. Women can be invited to the preference round and still go bidless.

Thanks for the feedback. How competitive are southern schools like UNC, Duke, Vanderbilt, Tulane, Clemson?

Competitive, but not insane the way Texas is. I would get specific advice on thees schools from Greekchat.com. They're very helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

The "worse house" in the SEC is "better" (higher GPA, prettier women, more extracurricular leadership) than most "top houses" at most schools. If you are going to the SEC, accept the bid you get and be happy. Don't listen to the haters.

Indiana is the only school as competitive as the SEC. Indiana doesn't guarantee placement for women who compete recruitment. Women can be invited to the preference round and still go bidless.

Thanks for the feedback. How competitive are southern schools like UNC, Duke, Vanderbilt, Tulane, Clemson?

Competitive, but not insane the way Texas is. I would get specific advice on thees schools from Greekchat.com. They're very helpful.

Thank you, will check that out. She has been told to avoid Greekrank because it’s just a lot of sniping and self ranking that doesn’t really help get a broader understanding of how to navigate Greek life.

Does Greekchat have a good insight into northern schools as well – thinking Syracuse, Pitt, Penn State, Bucknell , Lehigh?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?

Hmmm, I dont think its true that you have to have connections or to have gown to a southern high school to get into a top house. DD attended a private day school in Philadelphia. A few kids each year go to SEC schools, ex South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn over the last 3 years. Almost all have joined sororities without specific connections. From the look of things on instagram you can see the sororities they join broadly align with the type of kid they were in high school -- popular outgoing, nice kid, friendly, etc. I dont think sororities are devil or the best things since sliced bread; they are what they are. If you want to rush, do it; dont be intimidated out of the process by wild rumors.

+1. The familial, “do you have a recognizable last name” connections are a little important, maybe in a “tiebreaker” sense, but in the end two things are true: 1) there are far more OOS students at Alabama/Georgia/Florida/Clemson/etc. now than there were in the 80s and 90s, and 2) the sororities aren’t going to pass up a great candidate just because she’s not from that state or because her family isn’t “known.”

I took a quick glance at the exec board of a sorority chapter at Alabama, and only 3 of the I think 10 girls were from Alabama and 3 weren’t from the South at all (Illinois, Maryland, and California).

Yes and no. You can definitely get in *a* sorority at Bama/Clemson/Auburn/etc. if you are not from the south; there are many chapters known to be "OOS" chapters where the majority of girls aren't from said state or even the south. But...there ARE sororities where you will be passed up if you're not from the state (or at least a neighboring one) or didn't go to a certain high school. At Alabama they have "Old Row" and "New Row" with the Old Row sororities being the Southern Belles and you're just not getting in if that's not you. (Which, if you didn't grow up with that lifestyle, or as part of that group, not sure why you would want to get in, anyway.)

The sorority you looked up is definitely new row.