When They See Us on Netflix

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

Last I checked, the Duke lacrosse players had lucrative careers in finance.

Poor little bunnies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

Last I checked, the Duke lacrosse players had lucrative careers in finance.

Poor little bunnies.

+1 There is no parallel between the Central Park 5 who spent years in jail, and the Duke Lacrosse players who didn't spend a day in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

Last I checked, the Duke lacrosse players had lucrative careers in finance.

Poor little bunnies.

Yes, exactly my point (PP here)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazing series. Anyone who touches the criminal justice system should watch it. It should be shown in police academies and law schools. White people (I am white btw) want to believe the world is just, and the American justice system is color blind, and only people who deserve to go to jail are in jail. To have your eyes opened to the systemic racism and injustice that exists in this country is to face the uncomfortable reality that we white people benefit from this system that robs others of their rights & their lives.

Whiteness protects us in so many ways. It is an awful reality. I love this country and want it to be just. To get there we have to bear witness to the horrors inflicted on our fellow Americans who are Black - like the Exonerated Five. Recognize and acknowledge the soul deep suffering that these boys and their families were put through because of racism and an unjust criminal system. And all the Black Americans who are still suffering today. We’ve never had anything close to truth and reconciliation in this country. How can we reconcile when we haven’t atoned for the atrocities of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, white supremacist terrorism, and other American policies and institutions that have disproportionately kept Black Americans from building wealth, that are responsible for poorer health outcomes and higher maternal mortality rates across the board, and that have resulted in Black Americans being incarcerated at higher rates than other groups?

Yet a sizeable section of white America doesn’t believe racism exists! Or worse, that white people are victims of “reverse racism!” How do we heal and move forward as a unified country when this is the case? It makes me sad.

At the very least, watch this series and bear witness to the injustice. Realize it is still happening. Don’t try to justify what happened to these youth. Don’t put it off because it’s uncomfortable. Black people in America don’t have that luxury. Watch it and let it break your heart. Our hearts have to break over the injustice and suffering before anything else can happen.

Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

No, but they were convicted in the court of public opinion by bigots. You know, people who hate rich white kids. They were also the victims of an overzealous and unethical prosecutor. I'm sure you wanted to see those kids rot in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazing series. Anyone who touches the criminal justice system should watch it. It should be shown in police academies and law schools. White people (I am white btw) want to believe the world is just, and the American justice system is color blind, and only people who deserve to go to jail are in jail. To have your eyes opened to the systemic racism and injustice that exists in this country is to face the uncomfortable reality that we white people benefit from this system that robs others of their rights & their lives.

Whiteness protects us in so many ways. It is an awful reality. I love this country and want it to be just. To get there we have to bear witness to the horrors inflicted on our fellow Americans who are Black - like the Exonerated Five. Recognize and acknowledge the soul deep suffering that these boys and their families were put through because of racism and an unjust criminal system. And all the Black Americans who are still suffering today. We’ve never had anything close to truth and reconciliation in this country. How can we reconcile when we haven’t atoned for the atrocities of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, white supremacist terrorism, and other American policies and institutions that have disproportionately kept Black Americans from building wealth, that are responsible for poorer health outcomes and higher maternal mortality rates across the board, and that have resulted in Black Americans being incarcerated at higher rates than other groups?

Yet a sizeable section of white America doesn’t believe racism exists! Or worse, that white people are victims of “reverse racism!” How do we heal and move forward as a unified country when this is the case? It makes me sad.

At the very least, watch this series and bear witness to the injustice. Realize it is still happening. Don’t try to justify what happened to these youth. Don’t put it off because it’s uncomfortable. Black people in America don’t have that luxury. Watch it and let it break your heart. Our hearts have to break over the injustice and suffering before anything else can happen.

Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

No, but they were convicted in the court of public opinion by bigots. You know, people who hate rich white kids. They were also the victims of an overzealous and unethical prosecutor. I'm sure you wanted to see those kids rot in jail.

And that’s the same thing as being convicted of an actual crime and serving actual time in prison? You don’t see a difference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazing series. Anyone who touches the criminal justice system should watch it. It should be shown in police academies and law schools. White people (I am white btw) want to believe the world is just, and the American justice system is color blind, and only people who deserve to go to jail are in jail. To have your eyes opened to the systemic racism and injustice that exists in this country is to face the uncomfortable reality that we white people benefit from this system that robs others of their rights & their lives.

Whiteness protects us in so many ways. It is an awful reality. I love this country and want it to be just. To get there we have to bear witness to the horrors inflicted on our fellow Americans who are Black - like the Exonerated Five. Recognize and acknowledge the soul deep suffering that these boys and their families were put through because of racism and an unjust criminal system. And all the Black Americans who are still suffering today. We’ve never had anything close to truth and reconciliation in this country. How can we reconcile when we haven’t atoned for the atrocities of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, white supremacist terrorism, and other American policies and institutions that have disproportionately kept Black Americans from building wealth, that are responsible for poorer health outcomes and higher maternal mortality rates across the board, and that have resulted in Black Americans being incarcerated at higher rates than other groups?

Yet a sizeable section of white America doesn’t believe racism exists! Or worse, that white people are victims of “reverse racism!” How do we heal and move forward as a unified country when this is the case? It makes me sad.

At the very least, watch this series and bear witness to the injustice. Realize it is still happening. Don’t try to justify what happened to these youth. Don’t put it off because it’s uncomfortable. Black people in America don’t have that luxury. Watch it and let it break your heart. Our hearts have to break over the injustice and suffering before anything else can happen.

Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

No, but they were convicted in the court of public opinion by bigots. You know, people who hate rich white kids. They were also the victims of an overzealous and unethical prosecutor. I'm sure you wanted to see those kids rot in jail.

Oh boo hoo poor little rich white kids. I’ll echo what someone else said about the Central Park 5...”those lacrosse players aren’t completely innocent. Something happened that night and they did discuss rapping and skinning strippers.” (See how easy that is to do.)

So yeah, I believe whiteness did help protect them. They didn’t go to jail for years and everyone involved had to step down. And look, they get to be referred to as kids, instead of adults. Unlike the Central Park 5, who were actually kids but you have posters here calling them anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

Last I checked, the Duke lacrosse players had lucrative careers in finance.

Poor little bunnies.

+1 There is no parallel between the Central Park 5 who spent years in jail, and the Duke Lacrosse players who didn't spend a day in jail.

The lacrosse players were set up by a stripper. They CP 5 did not commit rape but what about the other assaults. They deserve their millions but are we so sure they Angela?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I feel the same about the jogger, who seems to express no remorse whatsoever that these young boys were falsely jailed for years. Of course it's not her fault, but to not acknowledge this huge miscarriage of justice.....

Please do not blame that poor woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I feel the same about the jogger, who seems to express no remorse whatsoever that these young boys were falsely jailed for years. Of course it's not her fault, but to not acknowledge this huge miscarriage of justice.....

Please do not blame that poor woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can understand how this might be traumatizing to watch for Black/POC but it should be mandatory viewing for white people. I am a teacher and this plays out on a smaller scale in schools all the time- Black students are disciplined more often and more severely than their white peers. There is data backing this up. As teachers, it is so important we buck systems that criminalize black youth, address our own biases, and know how to help keep these kids safe. They face down a system designed to do this to them. It’s real.

It is absolutely heartbreaking to watch, but beautifully told and rendered. If you refuse to watch because it’s hard/not your problem/boring, you are part of the problem. Choosing to be ignorant harms people.

Young white men have been coerced into false confessions. No one should speak to LE without an attorney. One is available for free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started to watch and had to stop. I read an article that said not to wait until you're in the mood to watch but to just watch it. It's so painful, though. I'll try again.

I've been reading a lot about the case, though. NYTimes had a long article about the case a few days ago, written by a reporter who covered it at the time.

I also googled to find out more about the jogger and what's happened to her. She's not happy about the settlement and feels that the man who actually attacked her did not do so alone, as he claimed, so she sounds like she's still suspicious of these guys. It was disheartening to hear that.

I did the exact same thing. Started to watch, got halfway through the episode, and I was so upset that I had to walk away while DW finished it. I've seen the documentary (also wrenching to watch) but something about this recreation of the events made it sickening to watch.

I feel the same about the jogger, who seems to express no remorse whatsoever that these young boys were falsely jailed for years. Of course it's not her fault, but to not acknowledge this huge miscarriage of justice.....

That's incredibly unfair to the jogger. She was the victim of an absolutely horrendous crime. She was injured so badly she was in a coma for 12 days, and everyone thought she was going to die. She had no memory of the attack and never identified anyone as the perpetrator(s). The fact that other people decided to railroad these kids into a conviction is not her fault. She doesn't need to feel remorse. She didn't do anything wrong, and she has her own trauma to deal with. There was some evidence that more than one person attacked her, so it's not crazy that she thinks that. The fact that the guy who confessed was never tried, and then the case was settled, means she never got the kind of closure that you hope for from a prosecution.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Did whiteness protect the Duke lacrosse players? I think you might want to chillax on the AA studies classes.

Wait, did the Duke lacrosse players serve years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit?

Last I checked, the Duke lacrosse players had lucrative careers in finance.

Poor little bunnies.

+1 There is no parallel between the Central Park 5 who spent years in jail, and the Duke Lacrosse players who didn't spend a day in jail.

The lacrosse players were set up by a stripper. They CP 5 did not commit rape but what about the other assaults. They deserve their millions but are we so sure they Angela?

The stripper maintains that she was assaulted. So how are we so sure that they are completely innocent. Something happened at the party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand how this might be traumatizing to watch for Black/POC but it should be mandatory viewing for white people. I am a teacher and this plays out on a smaller scale in schools all the time- Black students are disciplined more often and more severely than their white peers. There is data backing this up. As teachers, it is so important we buck systems that criminalize black youth, address our own biases, and know how to help keep these kids safe. They face down a system designed to do this to them. It’s real.

It is absolutely heartbreaking to watch, but beautifully told and rendered. If you refuse to watch because it’s hard/not your problem/boring, you are part of the problem. Choosing to be ignorant harms people.

Young white men have been coerced into false confessions. No one should speak to LE without an attorney. One is available for free.

Yeah young white men have it so hard

[Anonymous]

I think the lesson is that anyone can be railroaded. Anyone can be coerced into a false confession.
This particular story is upsetting because the boys were so young. They didn’t have anyone looking out for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People have so many opinions on how they think rape survivors should act, should behave, what they should do. In Alabama, male non-rape victims think they know survivors should not have abortions, because the women should care about the baby more and it’s her job to become a mom. The CP5 were horribly treated — but that doesnt mean people who care about police misconduct get to tell the rape victim that she’s recovering from her rape “wrong” and that it’s her job to uplift the men wrongfully accused. Get it? Rape victims recover how they need to recover, whether other people like their path or not.

X a million