PSA: please do not approach dogs and try to pet them without consulting their owners

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure the OP and the rest of the apologists for biting dogs will be super successful at defending themselves legally when their dog mauls a child. Judges will be very swayed by the defense of “But, I posted a PSA on DCUM about how people should stay away from my dangerous dog, so the kid was knowingly assuming the risk.” ?

I'm super sure that your kid's scars will be worth it if you can just get a little cash out of that lawsuit. Good luck!

I am the PP you are responding to. I teach my children not to approach strange dogs exactly because threads like this make me aware of how irresponsible and indifferent to the well-being of children many dog owners are. So, it will not be my child that your dog mauls. But for the sake of other children, I hope that you think seriously about what you are saying and take steps to protect people from your dog, if only because you should realize that your dog will be put to sleep once it hurts someone.

The whole thread is full of idiots arguing that their kids should be allowed to trot up to any dog and do anything to it without worry since it is the responsibility of the dog owner to prevent injury to their kid. I think that is a frighteningly foolish approach.

Well to be fair- it IS the dog owner's responsibility to prevent his or her dog from biting children, even children who approach the dog without asking (which- before you jump on me- I am a new poster, and my son would never do that because he's terrified of dogs and even if he weren't, I wouldn't ever allow him to because of dog owners who do not view it as their own personal responsibility to prevent their dog from biting people).

[Anonymous]

PP above. I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do have a gross one. He often rolls his neck in roadkill or deer poo, and though I do warn people and pull him back, some really pushy people have leaned in for a pet anyway and come back with a handful of gross.

Hey. I warned you. I tugged him away. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure the OP and the rest of the apologists for biting dogs will be super successful at defending themselves legally when their dog mauls a child. Judges will be very swayed by the defense of “But, I posted a PSA on DCUM about how people should stay away from my dangerous dog, so the kid was knowingly assuming the risk.” ?

I'm super sure that your kid's scars will be worth it if you can just get a little cash out of that lawsuit. Good luck!

I am the PP you are responding to. I teach my children not to approach strange dogs exactly because threads like this make me aware of how irresponsible and indifferent to the well-being of children many dog owners are. So, it will not be my child that your dog mauls. But for the sake of other children, I hope that you think seriously about what you are saying and take steps to protect people from your dog, if only because you should realize that your dog will be put to sleep once it hurts someone.

The whole thread is full of idiots arguing that their kids should be allowed to trot up to any dog and do anything to it without worry since it is the responsibility of the dog owner to prevent injury to their kid. I think that is a frighteningly foolish approach.

No, the thread is full of people who are terrified and angry that people like the OP think dogs are justified in biting children.

Nope, the OP's leashed dog is not mauling anyone. It is being harrased by well mening, but ill-informed people. She'd like to know how to stop them while maintaining her right to use a public sidewalk. You are the same people who can stand for an hour on a crowded train and not touch each other. Why can't you walk past a dog and not touch it?

If OP's dog would bite just because it was petted, it would also bite if a toddler happened to trip and fall near it; if a jogger approached quickly from behind; or if you turned a corner quickly and walked close to it. A dog that has a fuse that short should not be on the sidewalk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ but why? If you would not touch me, or my child, or my stuff, why is it okay to touch my dog?

I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do think if an owner controls his dog on a leash, and the only way that dog would bite is if it were touched, why is that not the problem of the toucher? Shouldn't the dog be allowed to walk without being touched?

If a child runs into the street and gets hit by a car, or runs in front of a switch g, do you blame the swing or the car, assuming they were doing the speed limit or didn't aim for the child?

A car going the speed limit and paying attention to the road will brake and swerve to avoid the child. That would be kind of like a dog is eating and a child sticks his hand into the dog's food dish and the dog accidentally bites the child's hand which is literally on top of his food, and it's a total accident. What OP is describing with her dog is more like, a kid walks into the road on a crosswalk assuming the car that's 5-6 seconds away and going 20mph will stop but instead the car "sees a threat" and speeds up and intentionally runs down the child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP above. I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do have a gross one. He often rolls his neck in roadkill or deer poo, and though I do warn people and pull him back, some really pushy people have leaned in for a pet anyway and come back with a handful of gross.

Hey. I warned you. I tugged him away. Oh well.

You have other problems if you have so little control of your dog that he is allowed to roll in roadkill or animal poop. Maybe you should leash him a little better???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ but why? If you would not touch me, or my child, or my stuff, why is it okay to touch my dog?

I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do think if an owner controls his dog on a leash, and the only way that dog would bite is if it were touched, why is that not the problem of the toucher? Shouldn't the dog be allowed to walk without being touched?

If a child runs into the street and gets hit by a car, or runs in front of a switch g, do you blame the swing or the car, assuming they were doing the speed limit or didn't aim for the child?

A car going the speed limit and paying attention to the road will brake and swerve to avoid the child. That would be kind of like a dog is eating and a child sticks his hand into the dog's food dish and the dog accidentally bites the child's hand which is literally on top of his food, and it's a total accident. What OP is describing with her dog is more like, a kid walks into the road on a crosswalk assuming the car that's 5-6 seconds away and going 20mph will stop but instead the car "sees a threat" and speeds up and intentionally runs down the child.

You're being ridiculous and purposely defying logic. we're not talking a car that is going speed limit and has plenty of time to stop. The analogy is a car that is right there in the child steps right in front of it.

You really need to understand what children look like coming unprepared at a dog's face. And regardless, people can have the best behaved dogs and occasionally, a really really good dog will snap. So your central argument is that no dog should ever be allowed out because every last one of them has a potential to snap

there's equal responsibility. An owner should control and leash dog and warn people, and you should not go up and approached strange dog.

why are people insisting on this right to touch a dog. That's a question that I cannot understand

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP above. I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do have a gross one. He often rolls his neck in roadkill or deer poo, and though I do warn people and pull him back, some really pushy people have leaned in for a pet anyway and come back with a handful of gross.

Hey. I warned you. I tugged him away. Oh well.

You have other problems if you have so little control of your dog that he is allowed to roll in roadkill or animal poop. Maybe you should leash him a little better???

What my non aggressive dog does and I have to deal with IS my problem. Not yours. Unless you pet him.

People.like you obviously cannot be reasoned with. you have no sense of logic and will lash out at any argument that you don't have a response for. At least not a rational one.

You have no understanding of how quick a dog can be in indulging its natural instincts. all it takes is half a second for a dog to stop and sniff or pee and rub its head on the ground. I can pull him back quickly but the damage is done

[Anonymous]

and you completely lack personal responsibility. You make assumptions about how I handle my dog rather than wondering why it's okay for people to touch my stinky dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ but why? If you would not touch me, or my child, or my stuff, why is it okay to touch my dog?

I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do think if an owner controls his dog on a leash, and the only way that dog would bite is if it were touched, why is that not the problem of the toucher? Shouldn't the dog be allowed to walk without being touched?

If a child runs into the street and gets hit by a car, or runs in front of a switch g, do you blame the swing or the car, assuming they were doing the speed limit or didn't aim for the child?

A car going the speed limit and paying attention to the road will brake and swerve to avoid the child. That would be kind of like a dog is eating and a child sticks his hand into the dog's food dish and the dog accidentally bites the child's hand which is literally on top of his food, and it's a total accident. What OP is describing with her dog is more like, a kid walks into the road on a crosswalk assuming the car that's 5-6 seconds away and going 20mph will stop but instead the car "sees a threat" and speeds up and intentionally runs down the child.

You're being ridiculous and purposely defying logic. we're not talking a car that is going speed limit and has plenty of time to stop. The analogy is a car that is right there in the child steps right in front of it.

You really need to understand what children look like coming unprepared at a dog's face. And regardless, people can have the best behaved dogs and occasionally, a really really good dog will snap. So your central argument is that no dog should ever be allowed out because every last one of them has a potential to snap

there's equal responsibility. An owner should control and leash dog and warn people, and you should not go up and approached strange dog.

why are people insisting on this right to touch a dog. That's a question that I cannot understand

Saying a dog is like a car racing down a road that a child could step in front of is just plain ridiculous unless you're trying to state that ALL DOGS will IMMEDIATELY MAUL a child who comes near it. Because ALL CARS will IMMEDIATELY HIT a child who jumps in front of it. The point is- YOUR DOG, not ALL DOGS, will bite kids who come near it so it's a problem with YOUR DOG, not ALL DOGS. (Caps are not for yelling- just for emphasis on the fallacy of your comparison). Anyways, again, my kid never runs up to dogs and i'd stop him if he tried, but if he did and your dog bit him, it would still be 10000% your responsibility. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP above. I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do have a gross one. He often rolls his neck in roadkill or deer poo, and though I do warn people and pull him back, some really pushy people have leaned in for a pet anyway and come back with a handful of gross.

Hey. I warned you. I tugged him away. Oh well.

You have other problems if you have so little control of your dog that he is allowed to roll in roadkill or animal poop. Maybe you should leash him a little better???

What my non aggressive dog does and I have to deal with IS my problem. Not yours. Unless you pet him.

People.like you obviously cannot be reasoned with. you have no sense of logic and will lash out at any argument that you don't have a response for. At least not a rational one.

You have no understanding of how quick a dog can be in indulging its natural instincts. all it takes is half a second for a dog to stop and sniff or pee and rub its head on the ground. I can pull him back quickly but the damage is done

and all it takes is half a second for them to bite a baby sitting in a stroller who rolls too close to him, too. the bottom line is- if you are walking your dog in public you need to be 100% on guard and vigilant about this kind of thing. i see so many dog owners walking and texting and not paying attention to what their dog on the end of a 4 foot leash is doing and it's mind boggling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:and you completely lack personal responsibility. You make assumptions about how I handle my dog rather than wondering why it's okay for people to touch my stinky dog.

i mean to be fair you're the one who said your dog often rolls in dead animal carcasses, so yea, i am making some assumptions about how you handle your dog

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP above. I do not have an aggressive dog, but I do have a gross one. He often rolls his neck in roadkill or deer poo, and though I do warn people and pull him back, some really pushy people have leaned in for a pet anyway and come back with a handful of gross.

Hey. I warned you. I tugged him away. Oh well.

You have other problems if you have so little control of your dog that he is allowed to roll in roadkill or animal poop. Maybe you should leash him a little better???

What my non aggressive dog does and I have to deal with IS my problem. Not yours. Unless you pet him.

People.like you obviously cannot be reasoned with. you have no sense of logic and will lash out at any argument that you don't have a response for. At least not a rational one.

You have no understanding of how quick a dog can be in indulging its natural instincts. all it takes is half a second for a dog to stop and sniff or pee and rub its head on the ground. I can pull him back quickly but the damage is done

and all it takes is half a second for them to bite a baby sitting in a stroller who rolls too close to him, too. the bottom line is- if you are walking your dog in public you need to be 100% on guard and vigilant about this kind of thing. i see so many dog owners walking and texting and not paying attention to what their dog on the end of a 4 foot leash is doing and it's mind boggling.

Oh, you're the asshole with the baby jogger running into everyone? Yeah we all try to dodge you, but c'mon.

[Anonymous]

To add a little positivity to this thread, I just walked my dog right as our elementary school was dismissing. Every kid who wanted to pet my dog asked first. One started to reach and then asked first. Well done, kids!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To add a little positivity to this thread, I just walked my dog right as our elementary school was dismissing. Every kid who wanted to pet my dog asked first. One started to reach and then asked first. Well done, kids!

That sounds pretty negative to me. If you think your dog will bite children, don't walk past a school at dismissal. Why is that so hard to understand?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To add a little positivity to this thread, I just walked my dog right as our elementary school was dismissing. Every kid who wanted to pet my dog asked first. One started to reach and then asked first. Well done, kids!

That sounds pretty negative to me. If you think your dog will bite children, don't walk past a school at dismissal. Why is that so hard to understand?

Her dog didn't bite anyone. The kids were polite, they asked, she let them pet = positive interaction. We understand that you are a little impaired and basic polite interaction mystifies you. She was just giving you an example to follow.