Big 3 College Placement 2018-19 Cycle

[Anonymous]

Any update to the Sidwell, and StA/NCS numbers posted earlier on this thread?

[Anonymous]

It really is weird to be fishing about where kids you don't know are going to college. None of it reflects either the kids, the school or your kids.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand all this fuss about legacy figures at 30% when no one is mentioning what the parents of those 30% give in order to get their kids in. It's well known that almost all legacy applicants have the grades, test scores, connections and ECs to get in. What they need is a parent or grandparent who has given a 7 figure donation. Then they get in. Those are your 30%. And I speak from experience.

[Anonymous]

What is Z list?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand all this fuss about legacy figures at 30% when no one is mentioning what the parents of those 30% give in order to get their kids in. It's well known that almost all legacy applicants have the grades, test scores, connections and ECs to get in. What they need is a parent or grandparent who has given a 7 figure donation. Then they get in. Those are your 30%. And I speak from experience.

This is ridiculous. Do you really think that every year 30% of the class has parents or grandparents who gave 7 figures? This is a logical fallacy. Legacies who give 7 figures probably do get in but that does not mean that all legacies who get in have donated 7 figures.

What experience could you possibly have had to validate this? Even if you have 7 figures, you cannot possibly extrapolate that to another 600 people.

I’m a legacy at a HYP and have two kids attending my alma mater. I have donated zero dollars since graduating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand all this fuss about legacy figures at 30% when no one is mentioning what the parents of those 30% give in order to get their kids in. It's well known that almost all legacy applicants have the grades, test scores, connections and ECs to get in. What they need is a parent or grandparent who has given a 7 figure donation. Then they get in. Those are your 30%. And I speak from experience.

This is ridiculous. Do you really think that every year 30% of the class has parents or grandparents who gave 7 figures? This is a logical fallacy. Legacies who give 7 figures probably do get in but that does not mean that all legacies who get in have donated 7 figures.

What experience could you possibly have had to validate this? Even if you have 7 figures, you cannot possibly extrapolate that to another 600 people.

I’m a legacy at a HYP and have two kids attending my alma mater. I have donated zero dollars since graduating.

So am I. Those parents who gave six or seven figures got their kids in. I doubt you've donated zero dollars since graduating. Are you URM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is Z list?

I hesitated to answer as this thread is already too far afield but if you want to know more about the Z List and the Harvard lawsuit (which, frankly, most people with college admissions should read about as there is a wealth of information now available about the acceptance process) I would recommend reading the coverage in the Harvard Crimson.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/6/17/admissions-docs-zlist/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand all this fuss about legacy figures at 30% when no one is mentioning what the parents of those 30% give in order to get their kids in. It's well known that almost all legacy applicants have the grades, test scores, connections and ECs to get in. What they need is a parent or grandparent who has given a 7 figure donation. Then they get in. Those are your 30%. And I speak from experience.

This is ridiculous. Do you really think that every year 30% of the class has parents or grandparents who gave 7 figures? This is a logical fallacy. Legacies who give 7 figures probably do get in but that does not mean that all legacies who get in have donated 7 figures.

What experience could you possibly have had to validate this? Even if you have 7 figures, you cannot possibly extrapolate that to another 600 people.

I’m a legacy at a HYP and have two kids attending my alma mater. I have donated zero dollars since graduating.

So am I. Those parents who gave six or seven figures got their kids in. I doubt you've donated zero dollars since graduating. Are you URM?

No, are you a moron? I'm Asian, so take your racist insinuations and shove it up your ass. I don't give my charitable contributions to an institution with an endowment in the billions. Do you even have any conception of how much money you have to have to give even a six figure donation? The legacy percentage at Harvard is 30% and the percentage of kids on financial aid is 70%, just think about what that means and what it would mean if this preposterous statement about legacies were true.

If you don't understand that X --> Y does not mean that Y ----> X, well, I just can't help you anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand all this fuss about legacy figures at 30% when no one is mentioning what the parents of those 30% give in order to get their kids in. It's well known that almost all legacy applicants have the grades, test scores, connections and ECs to get in. What they need is a parent or grandparent who has given a 7 figure donation. Then they get in. Those are your 30%. And I speak from experience.

You seem insanely idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard the opposite. Strong early results for Sidwell. Difference is they don’t seem to talk it up much as there is an unspoken attempt to downplay things a bit until more of the class has heard back from RD applications. I actually think that is quite a nice thing to do and wish my DS’ school was similar where kids already wearing Yale and Penn tee-shirts which I personally find obnoxious.

Unfortunately, early results are not very strong for this year's seniors at SFS. Parents have lost confidence in the college counseling office. At least half the senior class has hired private college counselors, and junior parents are already lining up the same for next year. A basic revamp/restructuring of the college function is needed urgently.

[Anonymous]

PP - please elaborate on Sidwell. Why are results so disappointing and why is it a reflection of the counseling office?

[Anonymous]

Looks like there are conflicting accounts about whether results so far are strong. Somebody is lying, or both sides are lying a little bit.

[Anonymous]

It is difficult to draw conclusions especially during ED —- especially when talking about Ivy admissions...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard the opposite. Strong early results for Sidwell. Difference is they don’t seem to talk it up much as there is an unspoken attempt to downplay things a bit until more of the class has heard back from RD applications. I actually think that is quite a nice thing to do and wish my DS’ school was similar where kids already wearing Yale and Penn tee-shirts which I personally find obnoxious.

Unfortunately, early results are not very strong for this year's seniors at SFS. Parents have lost confidence in the college counseling office. At least half the senior class has hired private college counselors, and junior parents are already lining up the same for next year. A basic revamp/restructuring of the college function is needed urgently.

Well if SFS is top dog in the area and the Ivies already know it, and if SFS offers the darnedest best courses towering over even the top Ivy Freshman/Sophomore courses, the students are near geniuses if not already are and have stellar ECs that only money can buy (e.g. service only in far away overseas places or private coaching by top dog professional sports coaches), and if external, private college coaches that demand sea of green before offer their expert concierge service to the gates to the top echelon of Ivies to said students, it is mind boggling to think the EA/ED results will be anything but Holiday Celebratory. How could you say the results aren't very strong for this year's seniors at SFS? Could you be more specific by stating the results you know of (may be you don't know only a small fraction of the results!).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard the opposite. Strong early results for Sidwell. Difference is they don’t seem to talk it up much as there is an unspoken attempt to downplay things a bit until more of the class has heard back from RD applications. I actually think that is quite a nice thing to do and wish my DS’ school was similar where kids already wearing Yale and Penn tee-shirts which I personally find obnoxious.

Unfortunately, early results are not very strong for this year's seniors at SFS. Parents have lost confidence in the college counseling office. At least half the senior class has hired private college counselors, and junior parents are already lining up the same for next year. A basic revamp/restructuring of the college function is needed urgently.

Well if SFS is top dog in the area and the Ivies already know it, and if SFS offers the darnedest best courses towering over even the top Ivy Freshman/Sophomore courses, the students are near geniuses if not already are and have stellar ECs that only money can buy (e.g. service only in far away overseas places or private coaching by top dog professional sports coaches), and if external, private college coaches that demand sea of green before offer their expert concierge service to the gates to the top echelon of Ivies to said students, it is mind boggling to think the EA/ED results will be anything but Holiday Celebratory. How could you say the results aren't very strong for this year's seniors at SFS? Could you be more specific by stating the results you know of (may be you don't know only a small fraction of the results!).

Get back on your meds and when your condition normalizes take an expository writing course,