Takoma, Easter Magnets. MCPS Pilots Universal Evaluation Process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is parents who were able to game the system in the past are pretty angry now that the admission criteria is competitive.

You suck for saying this. Don't clump everyone together to make a general statement just to push through your ignorant opinions.

I know a few parents whose kid got into the MS magnet program but turned them down to stay at our local school. This decision was made prior to the county declaring they would do a magnet-lite class at the local MS. And oh, all of them were southeast Asian families with kids at the HGC. It's not as if they didn't know the system or didn't put their kids' education as a priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is parents who were able to game the system in the past are pretty angry now that the admission criteria is competitive.

You suck for saying this. Don't clump everyone together to make a general statement just to push through your ignorant opinions.

I know a few parents whose kid got into the MS magnet program but turned them down to stay at our local school. This decision was made prior to the county declaring they would do a magnet-lite class at the local MS. And oh, all of them were southeast Asian families with kids at the HGC. It's not as if they didn't know the system or didn't put their kids' education as a priority.

A lot of parents whose kids would make the cut when only 400 others applied don't make the cut with 4K applicants and that is a real pain point for many tiger moms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the URM students failed to accept the spots and the magnet is now really just filled with more DCC white kids instead of higher performing Asian kids from the west, its even more of a screw up.

UMC white families in the west don't bother with the magnets. They don't want to ship their kid off to a school in a sketchy area. The whole point of buying into a W cluster is to not have to deal with the commute and safety issues at the magnets. UMC white families in the west are pissed off about the sudden enrichment classes. It brings back to the forefront how there are so many gifted kids in the W schools yet they don't get a gifted curriculum. No believes that the enrichment classes that MCPS made up at the last minute will actually be accelerated.

In this case, then the last three months of whinging must have been illusory. If families in the west of the county don't care to apply, then it doesn't matter that the presence of a peer group in the home school was one element of admissions decisions. Because there were not western MoCo kids in the group, as their parents all declined testing.

Whew! Problem solved!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is parents who were able to game the system in the past are pretty angry now that the admission criteria is competitive.

You suck for saying this. Don't clump everyone together to make a general statement just to push through your ignorant opinions.

I know a few parents whose kid got into the MS magnet program but turned them down to stay at our local school. This decision was made prior to the county declaring they would do a magnet-lite class at the local MS. And oh, all of them were southeast Asian families with kids at the HGC. It's not as if they didn't know the system or didn't put their kids' education as a priority.

A lot of parents whose kids would make the cut when only 400 others applied don't make the cut with 4K applicants and that is a real pain point for many tiger moms.

3.5k mediocre robo-applicants are nothing but a diversity play by the school district. they even said so three years ago.

have you ever met a gifted student or gifted athlete? it's glaringly obvious they have skills beyond others who simply work harder and longer than others.

meanwhile, yes, kids around the globe prepare and study for tests of all kinds. their history test, their midterms, their standardized tests, their SATs/ACTs/LSATS/MCATS/GMATS/GREs. Part of proving you have intellectual HP is the ability to understand material as it is presented and then show up on game day (the test), and show off what you know.

why does PP hate people who study for tests so much? If the county wanted to test IQ they'd mandate the SSAT like the private schools do. Instead they test material that was taught in their school system. Lots of people in the DMV scored 97%tile and up on their tests their whole lives - many of them not doing anything beyond studying at home with a workbook.

So the MoCo County has decided they prefer to "take a flyer" on some kid who "might have promise" for diversity purposes. Oh well, that's the political environment of MoCo today. But come-on PP, call it what it is: Diversity picks. Not top picks, otherwise they'd choose by scores. Not best teacher recommendation picks, otherwise they would have listened to the teachers' views. Not tenacity picks, otherwise they'd let the kids choose to apply after sending notices and voicemails home weekly before the due date. But diversity picks.

And i'd second what a PPP said: The MCPS CES and magnet programs is too small of size for this area with its large number of very talented and intelligent students. An average school district's G&T program can handle 5% of its student body. MCPS is coming in below 1.5% of it's 160k students. And in an area as highly educated as the DMV 5% would be some pretty impressive kids, that need the intellectual challenge, meaningful class discussions, and though-provoking homework projects. Not rote teach-to-the test Common Core crap. That's for the average student to reach proficiency. Many schools in MCPS are many levels about Common Core proficiency, and the county does very little for them. And teachers a similarly hamstrung to move them forward.

[Anonymous]

When the county went to only two possible grades for all students: A or a B (no plusses or minuses), the only thing left for students to prove their abilities is ECs, sports or test grades. No delineation between the kids who barely eeked out an A, those who are solid As, and those who are above and beyond.


Why can't MCPS bring back a more laddered grading system so half of the HS doesn't have an unweighted 4.0?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the URM students failed to accept the spots and the magnet is now really just filled with more DCC white kids instead of higher performing Asian kids from the west, its even more of a screw up.

UMC white families in the west don't bother with the magnets. They don't want to ship their kid off to a school in a sketchy area. The whole point of buying into a W cluster is to not have to deal with the commute and safety issues at the magnets. UMC white families in the west are pissed off about the sudden enrichment classes. It brings back to the forefront how there are so many gifted kids in the W schools yet they don't get a gifted curriculum. No believes that the enrichment classes that MCPS made up at the last minute will actually be accelerated.

In this case, then the last three months of whinging must have been illusory. If families in the west of the county don't care to apply, then it doesn't matter that the presence of a peer group in the home school was one element of admissions decisions. Because there were not western MoCo kids in the group, as their parents all declined testing.

Whew! Problem solved!

Agree with you both, Bethesda and southwest Montgomery County need some MS and HS magnet schools. Not moot options 1.5 hours away in rush hour traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the URM students failed to accept the spots and the magnet is now really just filled with more DCC white kids instead of higher performing Asian kids from the west, its even more of a screw up.

UMC white families in the west don't bother with the magnets. They don't want to ship their kid off to a school in a sketchy area. The whole point of buying into a W cluster is to not have to deal with the commute and safety issues at the magnets. UMC white families in the west are pissed off about the sudden enrichment classes. It brings back to the forefront how there are so many gifted kids in the W schools yet they don't get a gifted curriculum. No believes that the enrichment classes that MCPS made up at the last minute will actually be accelerated.

In this case, then the last three months of whinging must have been illusory. If families in the west of the county don't care to apply, then it doesn't matter that the presence of a peer group in the home school was one element of admissions decisions. Because there were not western MoCo kids in the group, as their parents all declined testing.

Whew! Problem solved!

Agree with you both, Bethesda and southwest Montgomery County need some MS and HS magnet schools. Not moot options 1.5 hours away in rush hour traffic.

Those segregated areas of the county also need more section 8 housing to make up for the decades of instutional red-lining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is parents who were able to game the system in the past are pretty angry now that the admission criteria is competitive.

You suck for saying this. Don't clump everyone together to make a general statement just to push through your ignorant opinions.

I know a few parents whose kid got into the MS magnet program but turned them down to stay at our local school. This decision was made prior to the county declaring they would do a magnet-lite class at the local MS. And oh, all of them were southeast Asian families with kids at the HGC. It's not as if they didn't know the system or didn't put their kids' education as a priority.

A lot of parents whose kids would make the cut when only 400 others applied don't make the cut with 4K applicants and that is a real pain point for many tiger moms.

3.5k mediocre robo-applicants are nothing but a diversity play by the school district. they even said so three years ago.

have you ever met a gifted student or gifted athlete? it's glaringly obvious they have skills beyond others who simply work harder and longer than others.

meanwhile, yes, kids around the globe prepare and study for tests of all kinds. their history test, their midterms, their standardized tests, their SATs/ACTs/LSATS/MCATS/GMATS/GREs. Part of proving you have intellectual HP is the ability to understand material as it is presented and then show up on game day (the test), and show off what you know.

why does PP hate people who study for tests so much? If the county wanted to test IQ they'd mandate the SSAT like the private schools do. Instead they test material that was taught in their school system. Lots of people in the DMV scored 97%tile and up on their tests their whole lives - many of them not doing anything beyond studying at home with a workbook.

So the MoCo County has decided they prefer to "take a flyer" on some kid who "might have promise" for diversity purposes. Oh well, that's the political environment of MoCo today. But come-on PP, call it what it is: Diversity picks. Not top picks, otherwise they'd choose by scores. Not best teacher recommendation picks, otherwise they would have listened to the teachers' views. Not tenacity picks, otherwise they'd let the kids choose to apply after sending notices and voicemails home weekly before the due date. But diversity picks.

And i'd second what a PPP said: The MCPS CES and magnet programs is too small of size for this area with its large number of very talented and intelligent students. An average school district's G&T program can handle 5% of its student body. MCPS is coming in below 1.5% of it's 160k students. And in an area as highly educated as the DMV 5% would be some pretty impressive kids, that need the intellectual challenge, meaningful class discussions, and though-provoking homework projects. Not rote teach-to-the test Common Core crap. That's for the average student to reach proficiency. Many schools in MCPS are many levels about Common Core proficiency, and the county does very little for them. And teachers a similarly hamstrung to move them forward.

This post contains about as many inaccuracies as it does typos. I understand that some people are bitter that they can't game the magnets like they used to, but it's time to move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the URM students failed to accept the spots and the magnet is now really just filled with more DCC white kids instead of higher performing Asian kids from the west, its even more of a screw up.

UMC white families in the west don't bother with the magnets. They don't want to ship their kid off to a school in a sketchy area. The whole point of buying into a W cluster is to not have to deal with the commute and safety issues at the magnets. UMC white families in the west are pissed off about the sudden enrichment classes. It brings back to the forefront how there are so many gifted kids in the W schools yet they don't get a gifted curriculum. No believes that the enrichment classes that MCPS made up at the last minute will actually be accelerated.

In this case, then the last three months of whinging must have been illusory. If families in the west of the county don't care to apply, then it doesn't matter that the presence of a peer group in the home school was one element of admissions decisions. Because there were not western MoCo kids in the group, as their parents all declined testing.

Whew! Problem solved!

Agree with you both, Bethesda and southwest Montgomery County need some MS and HS magnet schools. Not moot options 1.5 hours away in rush hour traffic.

Those segregated areas of the county also need more section 8 housing to make up for the decades of instutional red-lining.

Irrelevant to the need of magnet schools in Bethesda and SW MoCo.

DC is the most cosmopolitan, diverse and transcient populaces in the country. Bringing up things from decades ago when none of us our our families lived around here and Bethesda was farmland, does not resonate.
Neither does the county buying up land, destroying the housing on that land, and building section 8 housing. Have you seen the fraud rates on those in this area? my silver spring neighbor moved and now lives in once for greasing the pockets of the builder and not reporting income in full.

What does resonate in 2018, is a badly constructed curriculum and lack of challenging learning opps for MCPS top students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This post contains about as many inaccuracies as it does typos. I understand that some people are bitter that they can't game the magnets like they used to, but it's time to move on.

It's pretty low for you to make comments like that. maybe being anonymous gives you the courage. The MCPS magnet program never failed in selecting the smartest and most hard-working group of students, and there are piles of track records prove it. We'll see if the new admission experiment is a success or not in a few years. Too year to make the call right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This post contains about as many inaccuracies as it does typos. I understand that some people are bitter that they can't game the magnets like they used to, but it's time to move on.

You might be a more effective communicator if you actual responded to what a poster wrote, instead of broken-record harping about your fetish with "tiger moms" and "studying=gaming the system".

You can't whine that someone gamed a system because they got a better quantitative test result, and then turn around and support rigging a system for others who live in certain neighborhoods with certain demographics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Those segregated areas of the county also need more section 8 housing to make up for the decades of instutional red-lining.

There really isn't such a thing as "section 8 housing". Section 8 is a voucher. You can theoretically use it for any rental housing. But who in Bethesda or Potomac would accept a voucher, even if the voucher covered the rent?

What Bethesda and Potomac really need is more affordable housing options. Residential economic segregation is bad for everybody, including people with lots of money.

[Anonymous]

supply and demand have big issues. what to do what to do.

[Anonymous]

You might be a more effective communicator if you actual responded to what a poster wrote, instead of broken-record harping about your fetish with "tiger moms" and "studying=gaming the system".

You can't whine that someone gamed a system because they got a better quantitative test result, and then turn around and support rigging a system for others who live in certain neighborhoods with certain demographics.

Thank you. The racism that some parents and MCPS openly display toward Asian Americans is appalling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You might be a more effective communicator if you actual responded to what a poster wrote, instead of broken-record harping about your fetish with "tiger moms" and "studying=gaming the system".

You can't whine that someone gamed a system because they got a better quantitative test result, and then turn around and support rigging a system for others who live in certain neighborhoods with certain demographics.

Thank you. The racism that some parents and MCPS openly display toward Asian Americans is appalling.

The racism some parents openly display towards Latinos and African Americans while carrying the banner of Justice for Asian American magnet candidates is also appalling.