Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools

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Anonymous wrote:Remove Fairfax schools. What would be the top 10 then?


George Mason
Yorktown
Washington-Lee
Briar Woods
Rock Ridge
Stone Bridge
Broad Run
Freedom - South Riding
Riverside
Patriot (gotta give PW something if Fairfax is out of the picture)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any methodology that ranks Stuart in the Top 10 even in Fairfax County is fatally flawed.


No one has put Stuart/Justice in the top 10. The IB data is IB data. Not a ranking of the best schools, other than info. on how many passing tests each IB school has -- so, it is a ranking of IB passrates within FCPS. That's all.
Anonymous
I think this thread started off flawed by listing Mclean schools over TJ.
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Anonymous wrote:I think this thread started off flawed by listing Mclean schools over TJ.




So true!
Anonymous

This is the ultimate trolling kind of thread. Folks get so defensive about the choices they have made. )

Seriously, there is TJ and then everything else. (And even TJ is not the best for all students).
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Anonymous wrote:
This is the ultimate trolling kind of thread. Folks get so defensive about the choices they have made. )

Seriously, there is TJ and then everything else. (And even TJ is not the best for all students).


yes, but "everything else" is not equal. It just isn't. Some of it is splitting hairs (i.e. is Oakton better or worse than Madison), but some comparisons are significant. And some schools have improved such that they don't deserve the dismissive attitude they've been given over the years.
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George C. Marshall being an example of that...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
This is the ultimate trolling kind of thread. Folks get so defensive about the choices they have made. )

Seriously, there is TJ and then everything else. (And even TJ is not the best for all students).


yes, but "everything else" is not equal. It just isn't. Some of it is splitting hairs (i.e. is Oakton better or worse than Madison), but some comparisons are significant. And some schools have improved such that they don't deserve the dismissive attitude they've been given over the years.


Yes, but not enough to objectively say one school is "better" for all involved. I think that's what people are saying. If it's just a matter of how many of your schoolmates will have higher test scores, then sure. But that won't have a noticeable effect on how well a particular kid will do by attending one school over another. Or more importantly, how well they'll fit into the culture, how happy they'll be there, etc.
Anonymous
It’s not that hard to figure out which schools have the strongest records. It may be hard to accept it...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
This is the ultimate trolling kind of thread. Folks get so defensive about the choices they have made. )

Seriously, there is TJ and then everything else. (And even TJ is not the best for all students).


yes, but "everything else" is not equal. It just isn't. Some of it is splitting hairs (i.e. is Oakton better or worse than Madison), but some comparisons are significant. And some schools have improved such that they don't deserve the dismissive attitude they've been given over the years.


Yes, but not enough to objectively say one school is "better" for all involved. I think that's what people are saying. If it's just a matter of how many of your schoolmates will have higher test scores, then sure. But that won't have a noticeable effect on how well a particular kid will do by attending one school over another. Or more importantly, how well they'll fit into the culture, how happy they'll be there, etc.


I don't totally disagree. But, I can provide an example -- within FCPS. At school A, I have heard several different parents/kids report that there were so many disruptive students in the class (different classes, different grade levels) that the teacher either quit by Tgiving, couldn't keep subs b/c they kept quitting, and/or the teacher stayed but pulled the 5 kids who wanted to learn to the front of the class and left the disruptive ones to their disruptions in the back. We moved out of that zone and into one half way across the county with much higher test scores and an overall higher SES population. That type of thing simply doesn't happen (2 yrs into it). That said, I also know several kids who stayed at school A for the duration and did outstandingly well (with APs) and are very successful in college. So, yes, the motivated kids will do well anywhere in FCPS. The question is how well the kids who NEED motivation and the teacher's attention will do in the lesser schools, and how much crap your child will have to put up with for the duration.
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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 for the state of VA are:

#1 TJ
#2 George Mason
#3 Langley
#4 Open (Richmond)
#5 McLean
#6 Oakton
#7 Woodson
#8 Marshall
#9 West Springfield
#10 Washington Lee


(US News)


Not credible -- if you look at their methodology, they disqualified several schools on technicalities. If you have a small cohort that does poorly (in Madison's case, the only disadvantaged kids are also ESL kids, and they were disqualified. It is a small cohort, but enough to bring it down).


Marshall has a larger SES cohort than Madison and still does very well.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 for the state of VA are:

#1 TJ
#2 George Mason
#3 Langley
#4 Open (Richmond)
#5 McLean
#6 Oakton
#7 Woodson
#8 Marshall
#9 West Springfield
#10 Washington Lee


(US News)


Not credible -- if you look at their methodology, they disqualified several schools on technicalities. If you have a small cohort that does poorly (in Madison's case, the only disadvantaged kids are also ESL kids, and they were disqualified. It is a small cohort, but enough to bring it down).


Marshall has a larger SES cohort than Madison and still does very well.


The phrase “larger SES cohort” makes no sense. Do you mean “larger low-SES cohort”?

If there are fewer low-SES kids, the odds are greater that a small number of ESOL/FARMS kids who do poorly on the SOLs could lead a school to be unranked by US News.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 for the state of VA are:

#1 TJ
#2 George Mason
#3 Langley
#4 Open (Richmond)
#5 McLean
#6 Oakton
#7 Woodson
#8 Marshall
#9 West Springfield
#10 Washington Lee


(US News)


Not credible -- if you look at their methodology, they disqualified several schools on technicalities. If you have a small cohort that does poorly (in Madison's case, the only disadvantaged kids are also ESL kids, and they were disqualified. It is a small cohort, but enough to bring it down).


Marshall has a larger SES cohort than Madison and still does very well.


The phrase “larger SES cohort” makes no sense. Do you mean “larger low-SES cohort”?

If there are fewer low-SES kids, the odds are greater that a small number of ESOL/FARMS kids who do poorly on the SOLs could lead a school to be unranked by US News.


More to the point, the problem is not low SES. Low SES do fine at Madison. The problem is Non-english speakers.
Anonymous
According to the 2017 Washington Post Challenge Index:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/high-school-challenge-2017/?noredirect=on

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