Why do you fly with your infant on your lap if you can afford another seat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how you all think putting a kid in a car seat on a plane means I’m generally neurotic about her safety.

Talk about making assumptions.

I follow the FAA, AAP, and NTSB guidance. No one is saying not to send kids to daycare or ever drive them anywhere, so your logic really doesn’t stand.

We don't think you are neurotic for putting a kid in a car seat on a plane -- your post and following comment on this thread do suggest some sort of issue though...

[Anonymous]

Listen OP, you asked a question in your post, and on the first page, someone answered that they were willing to accept the very small risk of holding a lap child. Instead of saying "OK, I get that" (because the reality is, the risk is very very VERY small), your response was some crap including "I hope your child doesn't become a projectile".

You are hostile and looking for a fight. People called you on it. And now you're doubling down.

Do what you want (clearly none of us can stop you), but with every follow up post you look more and more like a wackadoodle.

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Anonymous wrote:And yet you all continue to answer. So I’d say you’re just as fixated on this thread as I am.

I for one am fixated on what a nut you are. I'll give you that.

Besides, it's slow here at work, and I love a good trainwreck.

And I’m home today waiting for contractors to come. Kid is at daycare. So I’m killing time watching you all get all worked up trying to defend your choices that go against all expert guidance.

This makes me think OP does have some serious issues. Now I feel bad for making fun of someone with some sort of intellectual/mental disability. Or at least a major lack of self awareness.

Alright, you all win. Everyone who buys a seat for their kid is neurotic. You all are eminently reasonable. Congrats.

Please. No one has said someone is neurotic for buying a seat. We've just pushed back on the idea you are a child abuser if you don't.

Did I ever say child abuser? No. Did I say it’s the riskier choice? Yes, because it clearly is.

Zombie OP: “I need to keep posting keep posting keep posting keep posting keep posting keep posting keep posting keep posting...”

[Anonymous]

Not to be rude but I am rich AF. I can afford literally anything I want to keep my kid safe. I could hire a bodyguard to camp outside my eldest’s classroom in case of school shooter. I decide not to spend money to maximize safety like literally every day. I just don’t spend it when the relative improvement in safety is trivial, like, for example, bringing a car seat on a damn plane.

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There were 10 deaths of infants on planes over 3 years and you are militant about following the FAA and NTSB guidelines. So much so that you are condescending and rude to people who disagree.

Conversely there were over 1200 deaths in each of 2015 and 2016 caused by unintended injury from causes such as bedding/bumpers in cribs, co-sleeping in the same bed and other parental accidents. There were hundreds of cases per year of infants injured in sleep related accidents. Why aren't you so militant and obnoxious about removing bedding and bumpers from beds and insulting parents who choose to sleep in the same bed as their infants? You'd make more of a difference in saving infant lives if you discouraged those actions instead of wasting time ranting about people who don't buy a seat or use a car seat of their infants.

You have picked an odd, very small risk concern about which to be so militant.

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Anonymous wrote:And yet you all continue to answer. So I’d say you’re just as fixated on this thread as I am.

I for one am fixated on what a nut you are. I'll give you that.

Besides, it's slow here at work, and I love a good trainwreck.

And I’m home today waiting for contractors to come. Kid is at daycare. So I’m killing time watching you all get all worked up trying to defend your choices that go against all expert guidance.

You took your kid to daycare even though you are home? How risky!!!

LOL!!

Hmm nice try, but no. Kids are undoubtedly perfectly safe in the care of high quality, professional caregivers.

There is a zero percent chance you will kill your baby at home today, but it's certainly higher than a 0% chance that a different adult will kill them if you leave them with other adults all day. Kids are murdered by care providers every year. Yet you sent your kid to daycare today, on a day you aren't even at work??? That's certainly as risky- if not riskier!- than holding a lap baby on a plane.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-daycare-infant-killed-20170525-story.html

[Anonymous]

I just find it odd that OP is so nit picky about this one decision but won’t acknowledge the risks she takes by driving, putting a child in daycare, etc. yes the risks are small but so is the risk of a lap baby on a plane. Get over yourself or at least be honest.

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There isn’t a zero percent chance my kid could die at home in my care. What are you talking about?

Yes I’m militant about this because it’s an easy risk to mitigate. It’s a small risk but it’s easy to mitigate.

I’m not generally neurotic about safety, but this one is just too easy to be blasé about.

And you’re all pretty hypocritical criticizing me for posting, when you all keep replying. If you didn’t reply, I wouldn’t keep posting. It takes two (or more).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just find it odd that OP is so nit picky about this one decision but won’t acknowledge the risks she takes by driving, putting a child in daycare, etc. yes the risks are small but so is the risk of a lap baby on a plane. Get over yourself or at least be honest.

It’s about CHOICE. I have to work, so kid goes to daycare. We have to drive (although not to daycare so we walk). When I have no choice, I take the risk. When we go on a plane we have a choice and I choose the safer option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a zero percent chance my kid could die at home in my care. What are you talking about?

Yes I’m militant about this because it’s an easy risk to mitigate. It’s a small risk but it’s easy to mitigate.

I’m not generally neurotic about safety, but this one is just too easy to be blasé about.

And you’re all pretty hypocritical criticizing me for posting, when you all keep replying. If you didn’t reply, I wouldn’t keep posting. It takes two (or more).

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you wouldn't purposely murder your own kid today. Maybe I shouldn't have??? WTF??? My post specifically mentioned kids being murdered in daycare, not in home accidents. I said there is (I'd assume? Hope?) a zero percent chance you'd murder your kid today at home, in your own mind. But that chance is much higher when a non relative daycare provider is caring for them. Yet you sent them there today for pure convenience. That's risky, technically. It's the same silly small risk you take not using a carseat on the plane.

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This is one of those classic DCUM threads which pits people who understand statistics & reason vs. people who think that math is some evil force that's out to get them. #TeamMath

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those classic DCUM threads which pits people who understand statistics & reason vs. people who think that math is some evil force that's out to get them. #TeamMath

Ha. Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a zero percent chance my kid could die at home in my care. What are you talking about?

Yes I’m militant about this because it’s an easy risk to mitigate. It’s a small risk but it’s easy to mitigate.

I’m not generally neurotic about safety, but this one is just too easy to be blasé about.

And you’re all pretty hypocritical criticizing me for posting, when you all keep replying. If you didn’t reply, I wouldn’t keep posting. It takes two (or more).

You seem to miss that there are almost certainly lots of people posting to you - you are the only one posting repeatedly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a zero percent chance my kid could die at home in my care. What are you talking about?

Yes I’m militant about this because it’s an easy risk to mitigate. It’s a small risk but it’s easy to mitigate.

I’m not generally neurotic about safety, but this one is just too easy to be blasé about.

And you’re all pretty hypocritical criticizing me for posting, when you all keep replying. If you didn’t reply, I wouldn’t keep posting. It takes two (or more).

you can stop posting any time.

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Anonymous wrote:I just find it odd that OP is so nit picky about this one decision but won’t acknowledge the risks she takes by driving, putting a child in daycare, etc. yes the risks are small but so is the risk of a lap baby on a plane. Get over yourself or at least be honest.

It’s about CHOICE. I have to work, so kid goes to daycare. We have to drive (although not to daycare so we walk). When I have no choice, I take the risk. When we go on a plane we have a choice and I choose the safer option.

But you said today you're just sitting around the house but took your kids to daycare anyways. See what I am saying? You made a choice, today, to put your kids in daycare even though you were going to be at home. Was it the best choice for you today for a variety of reasons? Obviously. Was it, strictly speaking, the lowest risk for your child's chances of mortality? No.