Should we being back God to the classroom?

[Anonymous]

Back when we had "god" in classrooms, we also had even worse racism. We had lynchings. We strung young blacks up in nooses. Back when we had "god" in classrooms, it was acceptable to beat one's wife or children. Women had to ask their father's or husband's permission to get a job.

No, the solution is not bringing one specific religion, known for its terrible treatment of human beings, into the classroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP...can you even name the 10 commandments without looking them up? Most can’t and they aren’t very relavant or even appropriate for elementary school (don’t cover your neighbor’s wife...).

This is a ridiculous idea.

It is covet. Not cover.

You probably ought to read the ten commandments before you slam others.

Most of the ten commandments are very applicable to elementary school and certainly to high school.

Applicable to students of all ages and religions/faiths/belief systems:
- Do not kill
- Do not steal
- Do not bear false witness
- Honor your mother and father
- Do not covet your neighbor’s things

These are tenets that are taught across cultures and even...gasp...by atheists. At my DS’s secular elementary school, they’re called “being a good citizen” and “code of ethics.” (And also “not breaking the law.”)

Applicable to adults, but not children:
- Do not commit adultery/covet your neighbor’s wife

Not applicable outside of a Judeo-Christian milieu:
- I am the Lord your god (in the Talmudic 10 commandments)
- No other gods before me
- Don’t take the name of the Lord in vain
- Keep the sabbath
- No graven images

So, no, most of the commandments aren’t applicable across the board to all students of all ages everywhere. And the ones that are, are taught regardless of whether the words are printed as part of a religious document.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"God" Is already allowed in public schools. kids can bring a bible to read for instance. They cannot have lessons in a particular religion. And that is a good thing.

Correct. I tried to make this point upthread. Kids can pray during lunch, before a test, and read religious text. Nobody can tell a child otherwise.

Kids can express their own religious beliefs, read religious texts, and pray to any deity they personally choose. God(s) and/or any other divine beings as applicable to an individual's belief system do not need to be "brought back" because they were never forced out. I support this and think it's excellent; I firmly believe that people should have the right to practice any spirituality they wish as long as their actions do not infringe on the rights or freedoms of others. My children occasionally wear religious symbols (not Christian ones) to school and occasionally engage in prayers before high-stakes assignments.

What cannot happen in school, and what many posters seem to want, is school officials promoting the beliefs & practices of one particular religion (Christianity) and guiding students to adhere to its views and/or pray to its deity. I emphatically believe that this should not be supported in public schools in the U.S. & think it would be inappropriate, unethical, and likely unconstitutional.

Actually, the Bible was often the primary text book in schools in this country, along with religious texts and Christian references.

To say otherwise is incorrect, whether you are anti Christian, Christian or have no opinions either way.

But changing which books are in the curriculum isn't pushing books that are not in the curriculum out of the classroom. Kids can still bring and read the Bible in the classroom, teachers just can't make every student read it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think if we talked about God and had the Ten Commandments in every classroom there will be less violence?
There are students in a school in FCPS that have no idea what are the Ten Commandments. This school has over 80% passing rate in the sols and 90% in History and Science classes...

Should teacher have guns to protect the students?

There is plenty of violence in the Old Testament.

Not sure why you think that the Ten Commandments belong in a history class or a science class, nor why you capitalized those words.

I think it's actually a valid point to discuss it in a history class. It should be part of a comparative religions study.

god is not history

However, religion is a large part of history and the cause of most wars. So yes, a basic understanding of world religions in the context of history is important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP...can you even name the 10 commandments without looking them up? Most can’t and they aren’t very relavant or even appropriate for elementary school (don’t cover your neighbor’s wife...).

This is a ridiculous idea.

It is covet. Not cover.

You probably ought to read the ten commandments before you slam others.

Most of the ten commandments are very applicable to elementary school and certainly to high school.

I’m guessing it was an auto correct and the person knew it was covet.

[Anonymous]

As long as there are still tests, G-d is still in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think if we talked about God and had the Ten Commandments in every classroom there will be less violence?
There are students in a school in FCPS that have no idea what are the Ten Commandments. This school has over 80% passing rate in the sols and 90% in History and Science classes...

Should teacher have guns to protect the students?

Unless the school has mind control capabilities, God can be in any classroom where a student wants him/her to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP...can you even name the 10 commandments without looking them up? Most can’t and they aren’t very relavant or even appropriate for elementary school (don’t cover your neighbor’s wife...).

This is a ridiculous idea.

It is covet. Not cover.

You probably ought to read the ten commandments before you slam others.

Most of the ten commandments are very applicable to elementary school and certainly to high school.

I’m guessing it was an auto correct and the person knew it was covet.

I wouldn't bet on it. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in a high level of intelligence in a person who thinks that the 10 Commandments aren't relevant or appropriate for elementary age kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP...can you even name the 10 commandments without looking them up? Most can’t and they aren’t very relavant or even appropriate for elementary school (don’t cover your neighbor’s wife...).

This is a ridiculous idea.

It is covet. Not cover.

You probably ought to read the ten commandments before you slam others.

Most of the ten commandments are very applicable to elementary school and certainly to high school.

I’m guessing it was an auto correct and the person knew it was covet.

I wouldn't bet on it. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in a high level of intelligence in a person who thinks that the 10 Commandments aren't relevant or appropriate for elementary age kids.

10:06 here. My phone also autocorrected to “cover,” but I noticed and changed it back. Regardless of intelligence or knowledge of the Commandments, phones do crazy things.

I also maintain that “I am the Lord your god; there shall be no other gods before me” does not belong in a secular classroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't have God or prayers in the schools here in Canada. We don't have school shootings.

It's the guns.

LOL! Nice try. If you were actually from Canada, you’d know you DO have God in the public schools. Publicly funded Catholic schools and all...

Most kids don't go to Catholic schools. Even in Quebec most kids go to secular schools. My kids get no God or prayers in their school. They belong to the largest school board in Ottawa, which is secular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we should bring *my* religion in. Mine has one commandment: HARM NONE and do what you will.

It’s witchcraft. How about that, op?

Don't know about OP, but this works for me!

[Anonymous]

NO

[Anonymous]

Separation of church and state should stand.

Teachers should not have guns in school. There is nothing stopping a teacher from going ballistic, so why arm them with a gun? There shouldn't be any guns on school grounds.

[Anonymous]

No. No. That was easy.

[Anonymous]

no