Not Enough Fat In Milk.

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Anonymous wrote:^you really need to take a hard look at what you're saying. Your basic premise is that the La Leche League and the breastfeeding culture make women feel guilty for not wanting to try. At the same time, people like you are shaming and chastising them for trying to make it work.

Maybe it's because of where I lived when I was a young mother, but absolutely no one around me breastfed and there was no pressure to breastfeed, but I certainly did hear over and over how skinny my baby was and that I needed to just start using formula blah blah blah blah blah

My only point is don't pretend that shaming and guilting moms is a one-sided phenomenon, because it's not

People like you don't actually listen to the mother when she reaches out for help. If it's something she wants to do, whether it is Start Formula or keep breastfeeding, try to answer that question instead of telling her to either breastfeed at all costs or just give up right away and go to formula. Neither response is helpful

And if anyone was actually listening to Op, we can see there's a lot more going on than a breastfeeding weight gain issue. She has a lot of issues that need addressing and help

Your entire argument is circular and hard to pin down. She has been given TONS of advice on how to make this work. None of it she can do because of allergies or sensitivities to food and the acid reflux and the kidneys that can't do acid reflux medication and Zantac doesn't work. One comment gently reassures her if formula is the best option, it is a fine option and she and the baby will be okay if she has to resort to it. That isn't shaming, that's being supportive of someone who is having a REALLY HARD TIME breastfeeding and maybe needs to hear it's okay if she can't.

+1. Exclusively pumping might be an option too, since production is not a problem.

OP said she was probably going to do this - yet someone prior yelled that she was hell-bent on breastfeeding no matter what.

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Op here. Some of you on here have been very helpful. I have taken some advice and it's getting better.

Feeding: We are still feeding him every 3 hours. I am pumping a little and then offering one breast at each feed. We then follow up with an ounce of formula. Twice I just pump and we feed him a full 3oz bottle of formula, which seems to satisfy him. I am going to call a LC tomorrow and set up an appointment with her.


Eating: I picked up a couple of items yesterday, and made some adjustments to my meals. Instead of water, I added almond milk to my oatmeal, and sprinkled on more flaxseeds. For my snack, I added about a 1/2 cup of coconut yogurt to my fruit. For my salad, I used some leftover chicken and a half avocado. I got some almond butter got my later snack. Dinner is switched up most days, so I'm leaving that as is, but adding a starch like quinoa or brown rice. With the adjustments, I will be getting 2100 calories, 85g of fat, and 62g of protein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Some of you on here have been very helpful. I have taken some advice and it's getting better.

Feeding: We are still feeding him every 3 hours. I am pumping a little and then offering one breast at each feed. We then follow up with an ounce of formula. Twice I just pump and we feed him a full 3oz bottle of formula, which seems to satisfy him. I am going to call a LC tomorrow and set up an appointment with her.


Eating: I picked up a couple of items yesterday, and made some adjustments to my meals. Instead of water, I added almond milk to my oatmeal, and sprinkled on more flaxseeds. For my snack, I added about a 1/2 cup of coconut yogurt to my fruit. For my salad, I used some leftover chicken and a half avocado. I got some almond butter got my later snack. Dinner is switched up most days, so I'm leaving that as is, but adding a starch like quinoa or brown rice. With the adjustments, I will be getting 2100 calories, 85g of fat, and 62g of protein.

Op here. I am also getting 274g of carbs, and 49g of fiber.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Some of you on here have been very helpful. I have taken some advice and it's getting better.

Feeding: We are still feeding him every 3 hours. I am pumping a little and then offering one breast at each feed. We then follow up with an ounce of formula. Twice I just pump and we feed him a full 3oz bottle of formula, which seems to satisfy him. I am going to call a LC tomorrow and set up an appointment with her.


Eating: I picked up a couple of items yesterday, and made some adjustments to my meals. Instead of water, I added almond milk to my oatmeal, and sprinkled on more flaxseeds. For my snack, I added about a 1/2 cup of coconut yogurt to my fruit. For my salad, I used some leftover chicken and a half avocado. I got some almond butter got my later snack. Dinner is switched up most days, so I'm leaving that as is, but adding a starch like quinoa or brown rice. With the adjustments, I will be getting 2100 calories, 85g of fat, and 62g of protein.

Op, this sounds good. Thanks for listening instead of attacking those who are trying to help, like most other posters do.

[Anonymous]

just eat the whole damn avocado ffs.

[Anonymous]

My baby fell off his growth curve after 3 monfhs, which is when I lost all my pregnancy weight (I had gained a lot of weight). I supplemented with formula and continued to nurse until 15 months. I think that my body just needed a lot of extra weight to make enough milk to EBF.

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Op here. I wanted to update this thread. We had a pediatrician appointment today and he gained almost a lb in a week. He's up to 9lbs 2oz. I haven't been able to get an appointment with an LC yet, but a friend cousin is a NP. She came over yesterday and said his latch is bad. She doesn't think my diet had anything to do with it considering I have an oversupply. If I didn't have enough fat in my diet, I likely wouldn't be able to produce the volume I do. I have been eping but still feed him formula. We are currently on mostly breast milk with two bottles of formula a day.

[Anonymous]

Great job, OP! Hang in there. His latch could still improve. My little guy literally just learned to latch one day from one feed to another. But pumping and combo feeding is great, too, and what you're doing is working!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize that milk fat came from the mom's diet. I did have to eat a ton while nursing/pumping - I feel like you need more protein. What about hard boiled eggs, almonds, lactation cookies...put the whole avocado on your salad.

Having had a baby with growth issues, I was against formula until I realized I was being selfish and starving my kid. She shot back up once we found one that she liked. We're closing in on a year and we still nurse when together and she gets a bottle or two of formula a day, it's the best of both worlds. Don't be too hard on yourself, fed is best.

Op here. I am definitely not starving my child. While it sucks I can't fulfill his nutrition, his health is of the upmost importance to us. We have been using a HIPP formula that a friend recommend. He eats about 6-8 ounces of that a day, for the last 2 days. I am giving formula in the interim, but definitely want to EBF once he is up to growth curve.

I have definitely been tying to up eating avocado and a little nut butter. I can't eat eggs because I am allergic to diary. It's tough because I'm not a fan or but and hate hummus. I also want to eat healthy fats, like avocado, olive oil, chia/hemp/flax seeds, etc.

HIPP is the best formula available.

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Op here. I am updating this thread again. We went to a LC who did a weighted feed. Turns out his latch was bad and he was getting only 1-1.5oz per feedd, instead of the 2-3 like I thought. We are going to work on this latch but I will continue to pump and feed after each feed. He is gaianing weight with drinking pumped milk after each feed. He is now taking 3oz every 3 hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I am updating this thread again. We went to a LC who did a weighted feed. Turns out his latch was bad and he was getting only 1-1.5oz per feedd, instead of the 2-3 like I thought. We are going to work on this latch but I will continue to pump and feed after each feed. He is gaianing weight with drinking pumped milk after each feed. He is now taking 3oz every 3 hours.

So what is the answer to the amount of fat in your milk? Is the fat content of your milk effected by your diet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I am updating this thread again. We went to a LC who did a weighted feed. Turns out his latch was bad and he was getting only 1-1.5oz per feedd, instead of the 2-3 like I thought. We are going to work on this latch but I will continue to pump and feed after each feed. He is gaianing weight with drinking pumped milk after each feed. He is now taking 3oz every 3 hours.

So what is the answer to the amount of fat in your milk? Is the fat content of your milk effected by your diet?

No. The LC looked over what I was eating and my pumped milk bottles. She said I have a good layer of fat at the top. We have been only feeding pumped milk to him since Wednesday, and he went from 9lb 2oz to 9lbs 7oz. She said it's his latch, not the milk.