Exactly. |
The world's "best and brightest" should be welcomed!!! but only a tiny percentage of H-1Bs are in that league. Even among the former foreign students now in the worKorce--the group the industry claims are especially talented--the immigrants on average produce fewer patents per capita, are less likely to work in R&D, and have their U.S. degrees from lower-ranked schools than Americans of the same education, age and so on. Meanwhile, the H-1B program results in many of our own best and brightest U.S. citizens and permanent residents being squeezed out of the market once they accumulate 10 years or so of experience, and worse, many top college students are discouraged by H-1B and offshoring from pursuing the field in the first place. In other words, H-1B is causing an internal brain drain of the best and brightest American talents. This has been explicitly recognized by UC Berkeley researchers, and as noted earlier, by a blue ribbon commission in the National Institutes of Health. The latter focused on the PhD level. |
They already have citizenship, a green card or a visa. Can you Read? |
The fact was my neighbor had several children/teens young adults that were my friends. The sister [married -non citizen ] came over on a tourist visa for each of the 3 births. Then flew back with children. Each time there were more kids on the return trip. Happened with my peers cousins as well. This was decades ago. Yes that is simple to solve. Only children of 1 or more US citizens get citizenship. And for edification it was the 14th NOT 15th Amendment. The 14th amendment made federal citizenship a priority over state citizenship since after the Civil War AA's were blocked as citizens on the state level. http://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/birthright-citizenship-and-the-constitution Until now the USA has not had the need to further define a rather vague stretch of our constitution. Language on allegiance was done for Native Americans. Not random others who hop a plane or walk on in. |
Correlations from Dr. Matloff - Dr. Matloff was born and raised in Los Angeles, and has a PhD in mathematics from UCLA, specializing in probability and statistics.
Impact of H1Bs on US Tech Workers The foreign worker programs are causing an internal brain drain from technology fields in the US. The impact is particularly acute on those who are older which in this H-1B era for the tech field, means over age 35. Employers prefer to hire the younger, thus cheaper, H-1Bs instead of the older, thus more expensive, Americans. Microsoft admits that “the vast majority of Microsoft hires are young, but that is because older workers tend to go into more senior jobs and there are fewer of those positions to begin with (Wadhwa, 2008). A Network World article Bednarz (2012) reports that "Asked for experience preference, corporate hiring managers most frequently say IT pros with two to five years in the workforce, followed by those with six to 10 years’ experience." The nexus of this to the influx of foreign workers, especially the former foreign students, was cited explicitly by a Berkeley research team (Brown et al 1998; emphasis added): high-tech engineers and managers have experienced lower wage growth than their counterparts nationally... Why hasn’t the growth of high-tech wages kept up?... Foreign students are an important part of the story... Approximately one-half of engineering PhDs and one-third of engineering MSs were granted to foreign-born students in the mid-1990. Later related work (Brown and Linden 2009) showed that the lifetime earnings premium from an advanced degree is negative for natives (due to lost income while in graduate school) but positive for the immigrants (due to access to the US labor market), thus providing a disincentive for the natives to pursue graduate work (pp.131-132). As the authors point out, "...most [semiconductor companies] want to hire only MS (or PhD) engineers for design...and of course the companies would prefer that the graduate premiums stay low" (p.121). This preference is then satisfied by hiring large numbers of foreign engineers. Why are such large proportions of U.S. STEM postgraduate degrees earned by international students? The influx from abroad has hindered salary growth at that level, hence making pursuit of graduate degrees unattractive to US students. This displacement of Americans at the PhD level was actually projected (if not planned for) by the Policy Research and Analysis division of the National Science Foundation: “A growing influx of foreign PhDs into US labour markets will hold down the level of PhD salaries... [The Americans] will select alternative career paths... by choosing to acquire a "professional" degree in business or law, or by switching into management as rapidly as possible after gaining employment in private industry... [as] the effective premium for acquiring a PhD may actually be negative” (Weinstein, 1998) The PERM data indicate that Microsoft pays its entry-level financial analysts and lawyers much more than it pays its engineers. Young people see these market signals and respond accordingly. Anthony Carnevale of Georgetown University has pointed out, "If you're a high math student in America, from a purely economic point of view, it's crazy to go into STEM" (Light, 2011). Kerr (2013) aimed to quantify the impact of foreign STEM workers on Americans. They found that “A one SD [standard deviation] increase in abnormally high immigrant hiring [by a firm] at the time of a STEM worker's departure is associated with a 0.16... decline in log annualized wage. This amounts to a 17% drop in original wage. Though my focus here has been on CS/EE, one should note the 2012 report by the US government National Institutes of Health (NIH, 2012). It was found that those hoping for a research career must undergo years of low-paid post-doctoral work, during which time they have no idea as to whether they will ultimately be able to secure a career in the field. The report found this to be due to a huge surplus of labour, and it specifically cited the large number of foreign workers (about 60% of all post docs) as a major contributor to the problem. The report also stated that a result is the loss of many of the nation's top talents from STEM research--the internal brain drain. The internal brain drain is perhaps the most acute of the negative impacts of current policy, from a national interest point of view. http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/MigLtrs.pdf |
Thanks for posting. We have a legal mafia/monopoly racket in HB1. Honestly AA's from good schools with good grades have difficulty with proper employment upon graduating due to HB1.
It's a frickin industry. |
I am one of those immigrants and I can attest to the above. This is very accurate. When I came to this country I had to get admission in an Ivy League school with a scholarship. I felt really proud to be part of this country and felt like I earned my place here. Now I see students coming here with admissions to third-rated universities with irrelevant areas of studies. All these immigrants somehow end up as IT consultants. |
the Indians I know that immigrated in 90's and early 2000 are against the H1B also, especially as it has exploded out of control in last 10 years. It has NOTHING to do with Best and Brightest. I had one tell me that H1Bs pollute an IT shop. He quit and went back to gov doing SOA work. been here in US 15 years. |
Not easily done. Go back and review Plyer v Doe |
OK kids. Add up numbers. I see far more BS than PhD on the HB employer list. https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/Reports%20and%20Studies/Immigration%20Forms%20Data/BAHA/h-1b-2016-employers.pdf
Note many pro illegal immigration cite the DACA number at about 685,000. That is incorrect since the govt now conveniently published numbers. Total initial requests accepted as of the end of fiscal Q 2 for 2017 since program inception is 886,814 with Mexico at 689,029 [77.7%]. Bernie Sanders state has almost none. 56. Imagine. Compare his DACA number to MD and VA which are nowhere near the Mexican border. He might have stray Canadians. https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/Reports%20and%20Studies/Immigration%20Forms%20Data/All%20Form%20Types/DACA/daca_performancedata_fy2017_qtr2.pdf |
What do you think the chances are of this little piece of SturmBannonfuhrer legislative excrement getting through the Hill in this climate? LOL. |
And this is the truth which liberals don't want discussed openly. Of course, every parent would like the best schools for their children and when there are kids whose language skills are inadequate - no matter if they are white, black, brown or any other hue - it is a point for concern. So what do white liberals do? They find a school district that has better schools or send their kids to a private school. Now they don't look for schools that have fewer kids taking ESOL but that is the practical effect of their decision to move their kids. But then they pat themselves on the back about just how unbiased they are. How do I know this? I did it with my children and just about everyone who I know who identify themselves as liberals do the same thing. |
Kids learn language fast. When we lived abroad we put our kids in the foreign schools and they did just fine starting out without speaking the language at all beforehand. Other foreigners did too. Exposure to multiple languages and cultures is a positive. No need to flee. The real issue here is ethnicity. Seek help. |
I am married to someone who is a minority - and very ethnic. Should I still seek help? |
What type of "scholarship"? Ivy League schools don't really do "scholarships", just financial aid. |