The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.

[Anonymous]

This thread is so interesting to read during my first-ever week at renting scooters at theme parks due to a health condition that has arisen in the last year. (Not Disney, but parks in the vicinity.)

Do you really think it is fun to scoot alongside the old, fat people? And get this - because of the health condition, I CAN'T RIDE THE RIDES, so I'm not taking your space. But I am here for my kid, and have paid big bucks for extra-special, super-duper, VIP, premium, jump-the line access, so DC can get in and out of there quickly while I wait by the side.

So, if you have to hate me and judge me in my scooter, do it because I'm rich, not because I'm sick.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here and a Disney frequent guest. OP, about five years back I swore to my husband I would never use Disney buses again. Too much waiting. And yes, the line could be two buses worth long and a scooter could pull up at the last second with her 10 family members and go straight to the front of the line. Not cool. Scooters should have to queue up like everyone else. Not we rent a car every time and it has made a huge difference.

I don't understand why a scooter gets you to the front of the line? That doesn't make any sense.

For the Disney bus lines, the scooters have their own queue and the driver loads them and members of their party first. There could have been 50 people in line for 20 minutes and the scooter party in line for 2 minutes, the scooter party is still boarding first. Meaning the people towards the back of the regular line are not getting on that bus, even though they were waiting longer than scooter party. Being disabled should grant you equal access, not preferential access, and as mentioned, anyone can rent a scooter.

Really? Being disabled grants you preferential access? Really? Based on the notion that you can be first on the bus? Really?

Go to any amusement park with my disabled child. Watch while she is told she cannot ride the bumper cars. Watch while she is told she cannot ride on the log flume. Watch while she is told she cannot ride on 9/10 of the rides, with the sole exception of the Merry-Go-Round and the Tea Cups.

And then tell her that being first on the bus is "preferential access." Yes, being first on the bus is the MAIN REASON people go to amusement parks. Because it's so, so great.

Yes, being first on the bus -- so wonderful. So fantastic. So preferential. It's what life is all about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Confirmation bias. People who think that fat people with mobility problems don't deserve vacations perceive them as being everywhere. Non-judgy people minding their own business don't.

Kind of like the study where men perceived crowds with 17% women and 83% men as 50/50.

They can go on vacation and ride a scooter...that's fine.

But why should they skip the line and get preferential treatment? Because they have a bad knee? So? Because they are obese? Why? It doesn't make sense.

Make a Wish kids are a different story. Let them cut the line...its part of the magic of their trip.

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Anonymous wrote:Confirmation bias. People who think that fat people with mobility problems don't deserve vacations perceive them as being everywhere. Non-judgy people minding their own business don't.

Kind of like the study where men perceived crowds with 17% women and 83% men as 50/50.

They can go on vacation and ride a scooter...that's fine.

But why should they skip the line and get preferential treatment? Because they have a bad knee? So? Because they are obese? Why? It doesn't make sense.

Make a Wish kids are a different story. Let them cut the line...its part of the magic of their trip.

Disney has said over and over again that on buses, scooters and wheelchairs board first because it is safer and more efficient for everyone if the operator is operating the lift and manipulating the tie downs when people aren't walking around, getting seated, etc . . . If you've ever been at Disney when they are loading a scooter or wheelchair onto the bus, you can see pretty quickly that it makes sense.

As to why they have the system with 2 lines -- letting a bus go partially empty to be fair, doesn't make sense. If you leave a scooter user in line, when the scooter spots aren't full, it's likely that when you come back you'll have scooter users in the spots, and several scooter users waiting. Do you then decide to be fair, and prevent any walking passengers from riding who arrived after the first scooter user? Disney's priority is to move as many people and mobility devices as possible, so they fit as many people as they can on the bus. That means filling up all the seats and all the spots for mobility devices. Sometimes it means that members of one group get on a little faster. It's not really preferential treatment because each group ends up waiting for the other at various times in the trip.

There are plenty of places where people without disabilities have clear preferential treatment at Disney. There are rides that people with disabilities can't ride, or where the wait it much longer (because you have to wait for a wheelchair spot). The idea that people are obsessed with this one place where the experiences are pretty equal and sometimes they are inconvenienced shows that they're spoiled by their privilege.

There are also plenty of people who visit Disney and never ride a bus at all. They stay on the monorail or drive to the parks. There are plenty of people who visit Disney but not at a crowded time of year, or they don't enter or leave at a crowded time of day, and who will never have the experience of arriving at a bus stop to see a full busload of people waiting. This is because riding on the bus is, as the PP said, not the reason people go to the parks. It's one small part of the experience.

I've been at Disney when it's crowded and seen both situations, where the scooter/wheelchair lines fills up faster (so people with devices have to wait a little while) or where the walker line fill up faster (so people who walk have to wait faster). When it's not crowded, I've only seen situations where people with mobility devices wait longer, either because a bus is broken, or because it arrives with it's tie down spots full.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree. We went to Disney for the first time last month and the scooters were out of control. People would just suddenly stop right in the middle of the path and sit there. So annoying.

I also a lot of scooters when we went about 5 years ago