Basis DC just withdrew its request to amend their charter and add elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:Charter advocate and BASIS critic just blogged about the BASIS decision to withdraw its application to expand.

https://parentshaveschoolchoicekidswin.com/2016/11/21/basis-pcs-withdraws-application-to-expand/

One could argue that high achieving, higher income kids are left behind by the traditional school system in DCPS. Unless you can buy a million dollar house in upper NW or Cap Hill for Brent, then your kid is screwed.

Cry me a river. High achieving, high income kids are not at risk of being left behind. They are at a huge advantage academically, and statistically will be JUST FINE even if they are not challenged in school until later. They are not at risk of anything other than boredom and being spoiled rotten.

And, KIPP has proven to be adept at challenging my 99th percentile tester. They differentiate. If you could get past all the black faces, you might like it.

good on you but no thanks. no problem with black or brown faces, just the pedagogical model at KIPP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter advocate and BASIS critic just blogged about the BASIS decision to withdraw its application to expand.

https://parentshaveschoolchoicekidswin.com/2016/11/21/basis-pcs-withdraws-application-to-expand/

One could argue that high achieving, higher income kids are left behind by the traditional school system in DCPS. Unless you can buy a million dollar house in upper NW or Cap Hill for Brent, then your kid is screwed.

Cry me a river. High achieving, high income kids are not at risk of being left behind. They are at a huge advantage academically, and statistically will be JUST FINE even if they are not challenged in school until later. They are not at risk of anything other than boredom and being spoiled rotten.

And, KIPP has proven to be adept at challenging my 99th percentile tester. They differentiate. If you could get past all the black faces, you might like it.

good on you but no thanks. no problem with black or brown faces, just the pedagogical model at KIPP.

What do you know about KIPP? Have you visited? Observed? Or just made a decision based on what DCUMers say about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter advocate and BASIS critic just blogged about the BASIS decision to withdraw its application to expand.

https://parentshaveschoolchoicekidswin.com/2016/11/21/basis-pcs-withdraws-application-to-expand/

One could argue that high achieving, higher income kids are left behind by the traditional school system in DCPS. Unless you can buy a million dollar house in upper NW or Cap Hill for Brent, then your kid is screwed.

Cry me a river. High achieving, high income kids are not at risk of being left behind. They are at a huge advantage academically, and statistically will be JUST FINE even if they are not challenged in school until later. They are not at risk of anything other than boredom and being spoiled rotten.

And, KIPP has proven to be adept at challenging my 99th percentile tester. They differentiate. If you could get past all the black faces, you might like it.

DCPS on the other hand doesn't actually differentiate. They claim they do, but in reality they ignore the top and bottom and teach to the middle. The only "until later" will be when kids end up in college, only to find themselves horribly underprepared and playing catch-up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter advocate and BASIS critic just blogged about the BASIS decision to withdraw its application to expand.

https://parentshaveschoolchoicekidswin.com/2016/11/21/basis-pcs-withdraws-application-to-expand/

One could argue that high achieving, higher income kids are left behind by the traditional school system in DCPS. Unless you can buy a million dollar house in upper NW or Cap Hill for Brent, then your kid is screwed.

Cry me a river. High achieving, high income kids are not at risk of being left behind. They are at a huge advantage academically, and statistically will be JUST FINE even if they are not challenged in school until later. They are not at risk of anything other than boredom and being spoiled rotten.

And, KIPP has proven to be adept at challenging my 99th percentile tester. They differentiate. If you could get past all the black faces, you might like it.

DCPS on the other hand doesn't actually differentiate. They claim they do, but in reality they ignore the top and bottom and teach to the middle. The only "until later" will be when kids end up in college, only to find themselves horribly underprepared and playing catch-up.

Except that teaching to the middle is still adequate to get accepted to college. And bright kids can figure out a way to do well in college even if their high school was not super rigorous. The bright kids really will be fine. I have no worries for them (and that includes my son - he would succeed anywhere I sent him, we like KIPP though and will probably stay through middle school at least).

Kids that you would prefer take a backseat will not be fine if the schools don't try to bring them up to speed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

Hill parents aren't the only ones in this position. See Wards 4, 5, 7 and 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter advocate and BASIS critic just blogged about the BASIS decision to withdraw its application to expand.

https://parentshaveschoolchoicekidswin.com/2016/11/21/basis-pcs-withdraws-application-to-expand/

One could argue that high achieving, higher income kids are left behind by the traditional school system in DCPS. Unless you can buy a million dollar house in upper NW or Cap Hill for Brent, then your kid is screwed.

Cry me a river. High achieving, high income kids are not at risk of being left behind. They are at a huge advantage academically, and statistically will be JUST FINE even if they are not challenged in school until later. They are not at risk of anything other than boredom and being spoiled rotten.

And, KIPP has proven to be adept at challenging my 99th percentile tester. They differentiate. If you could get past all the black faces, you might like it.

DCPS on the other hand doesn't actually differentiate. They claim they do, but in reality they ignore the top and bottom and teach to the middle. The only "until later" will be when kids end up in college, only to find themselves horribly underprepared and playing catch-up.

Some do it very well (though even then parents find a reason to complain that their K'er isn't challenged enough). All schools should have the same teacher training on this critical teaching skill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter advocate and BASIS critic just blogged about the BASIS decision to withdraw its application to expand.

https://parentshaveschoolchoicekidswin.com/2016/11/21/basis-pcs-withdraws-application-to-expand/

One could argue that high achieving, higher income kids are left behind by the traditional school system in DCPS. Unless you can buy a million dollar house in upper NW or Cap Hill for Brent, then your kid is screwed.

Cry me a river. High achieving, high income kids are not at risk of being left behind. They are at a huge advantage academically, and statistically will be JUST FINE even if they are not challenged in school until later. They are not at risk of anything other than boredom and being spoiled rotten.

And, KIPP has proven to be adept at challenging my 99th percentile tester. They differentiate. If you could get past all the black faces, you might like it.

DCPS on the other hand doesn't actually differentiate. They claim they do, but in reality they ignore the top and bottom and teach to the middle. The only "until later" will be when kids end up in college, only to find themselves horribly underprepared and playing catch-up.

Except that teaching to the middle is still adequate to get accepted to college. And bright kids can figure out a way to do well in college even if their high school was not super rigorous. The bright kids really will be fine. I have no worries for them (and that includes my son - he would succeed anywhere I sent him, we like KIPP though and will probably stay through middle school at least).

Kids that you would prefer take a backseat will not be fine if the schools don't try to bring them up to speed.

Reality: Families end up having to spend a lot of extra time and money of their own to supplement to make that happen because the schools failed at preparing them for college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charter advocate and BASIS critic just blogged about the BASIS decision to withdraw its application to expand.

https://parentshaveschoolchoicekidswin.com/2016/11/21/basis-pcs-withdraws-application-to-expand/

One could argue that high achieving, higher income kids are left behind by the traditional school system in DCPS. Unless you can buy a million dollar house in upper NW or Cap Hill for Brent, then your kid is screwed.

Cry me a river. High achieving, high income kids are not at risk of being left behind. They are at a huge advantage academically, and statistically will be JUST FINE even if they are not challenged in school until later. They are not at risk of anything other than boredom and being spoiled rotten.

And, KIPP has proven to be adept at challenging my 99th percentile tester. They differentiate. If you could get past all the black faces, you might like it.

good on you but no thanks. no problem with black or brown faces, just the pedagogical model at KIPP.

What do you know about KIPP? Have you visited? Observed? Or just made a decision based on what DCUMers say about it?

Not all parents want a "kill and drill" model of education like KIPP. Sure the kids may test well but are they really going to be the creative, initiative taking leaders in the future?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

Plenty of Hill parents are happy that a potentially high quality elementary charter isn't opening, because it increases their already slim chances at lotterying in to Basis? I actually don't think so. Sure people want better middle schools, but I doubt they are rooting for the absence of better options overall. Plus, they could just try lotterying in to the Basis elementary school and get access to middle school that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

Plenty of Hill parents are happy that a potentially high quality elementary charter isn't opening, because it increases their already slim chances at lotterying in to Basis? I actually don't think so. Sure people want better middle schools, but I doubt they are rooting for the absence of better options overall. Plus, they could just try lotterying in to the Basis elementary school and get access to middle school that way.

They want to stay in their high performing, walkable neighborhood elementary schools as long as possible and then lottery for Latin or BASIS as families have been able to do for the last 5 years. The chances of getting into BASIS aren't that slim actually (went through virtually all of their 5th grade wait list this year).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

Plenty of Hill parents are happy that a potentially high quality elementary charter isn't opening, because it increases their already slim chances at lotterying in to Basis? I actually don't think so. Sure people want better middle schools, but I doubt they are rooting for the absence of better options overall. Plus, they could just try lotterying in to the Basis elementary school and get access to middle school that way.

They want to stay in their high performing, walkable neighborhood elementary schools as long as possible and then lottery for Latin or BASIS as families have been able to do for the last 5 years. The chances of getting into BASIS aren't that slim actually (went through virtually all of their 5th grade wait list this year).

Yeah, not buying it that my neighbors are all rejoicing that the Basis elementary is not opening. Anyway, if they are, it's still enourmously self-serving and selfish. (Let me stay in my cute little Brent and let everyone else eat cake! Until middle school, when I DEMAND access to Basis!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

Plenty of Hill parents are happy that a potentially high quality elementary charter isn't opening, because it increases their already slim chances at lotterying in to Basis? I actually don't think so. Sure people want better middle schools, but I doubt they are rooting for the absence of better options overall. Plus, they could just try lotterying in to the Basis elementary school and get access to middle school that way.

They want to stay in their high performing, walkable neighborhood elementary schools as long as possible and then lottery for Latin or BASIS as families have been able to do for the last 5 years. The chances of getting into BASIS aren't that slim actually (went through virtually all of their 5th grade wait list this year).

Yeah, not buying it that my neighbors are all rejoicing that the Basis elementary is not opening. Anyway, if they are, it's still enourmously self-serving and selfish. (Let me stay in my cute little Brent and let everyone else eat cake! Until middle school, when I DEMAND access to Basis!)

Ran into quite a few of your neighbors at a BASIS booster meeting in October -- all were leery of the prospect of a BASIS elementary for just this reason. Yes, it's self-serving but few are not self-serving when it comes to their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

Plenty of Hill parents are happy that a potentially high quality elementary charter isn't opening, because it increases their already slim chances at lotterying in to Basis? I actually don't think so. Sure people want better middle schools, but I doubt they are rooting for the absence of better options overall. Plus, they could just try lotterying in to the Basis elementary school and get access to middle school that way.

They want to stay in their high performing, walkable neighborhood elementary schools as long as possible and then lottery for Latin or BASIS as families have been able to do for the last 5 years. The chances of getting into BASIS aren't that slim actually (went through virtually all of their 5th grade wait list this year).

Yeah, not buying it that my neighbors are all rejoicing that the Basis elementary is not opening. Anyway, if they are, it's still enourmously self-serving and selfish. (Let me stay in my cute little Brent and let everyone else eat cake! Until middle school, when I DEMAND access to Basis!)

Ran into quite a few of your neighbors at a BASIS booster meeting in October -- all were leery of the prospect of a BASIS elementary for just this reason. Yes, it's self-serving but few are not self-serving when it comes to their kids.

More like self defeating. BASIS will expand and continue to open more schools, both elementary and middle if/when the community and the board are supportive. Those individuals are ultimately limiting not only other people's choices but their own as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP, you are self-serving.

Plenty of Hill parents share this thought but won't come out and say it. Give us a break, we don't have a Deal, or even a Hardy or Hobson, to keep us in the city.

Plenty of Hill parents are happy that a potentially high quality elementary charter isn't opening, because it increases their already slim chances at lotterying in to Basis? I actually don't think so. Sure people want better middle schools, but I doubt they are rooting for the absence of better options overall. Plus, they could just try lotterying in to the Basis elementary school and get access to middle school that way.

They want to stay in their high performing, walkable neighborhood elementary schools as long as possible and then lottery for Latin or BASIS as families have been able to do for the last 5 years. The chances of getting into BASIS aren't that slim actually (went through virtually all of their 5th grade wait list this year).

Yeah, not buying it that my neighbors are all rejoicing that the Basis elementary is not opening. Anyway, if they are, it's still enourmously self-serving and selfish. (Let me stay in my cute little Brent and let everyone else eat cake! Until middle school, when I DEMAND access to Basis!)

Ran into quite a few of your neighbors at a BASIS booster meeting in October -- all were leery of the prospect of a BASIS elementary for just this reason. Yes, it's self-serving but few are not self-serving when it comes to their kids.

Blah.