Choosing not to go to Beauvoir

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

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NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

Glad that wasn't your experience as, when it happened to me, it didn't feel good at all. I won't discount what you say is your experience and will thank you not to discount mine. Peoples' truths aren't smears just because they don't fit with your personal views or experience.

[Anonymous]

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New poster here. I just read the thread above and wanted to offer a little advice to the poster (the government attorney married to the teacher). They have an HHI of 175K, and they have students loans of $300K! That student loan figure is staggering. Nevertheless, they say they are committed to sending their DC to private school even if working a second job to make it happen.

I work as a financial planner. Forgive the unsolicited advice, but it is imperative that you not spend any money on private school tuition. Instead, you should be focusing on the student loans. If you can get full financial aid for your children, then go ahead and send them to private school. But with that amount of student loans, you'll greatly regret it later if you spend money on tuition. If your public schools are not good where you live, then you should move. At your salaries, it's not like you're making a great income now as it is. I would just try to move to a place where there is a lower cost of living.

What kinds of colleges/universities did you attend? Was it worth it to go to those particular schools? Perhaps not for the income you're making.

While I appreciate your advise as a financial planner it's not what we are going to do. First, we don't anticipate ever being able to zero out our student loan balances. So we will pay on them what we can and have accepted it's a lifetime debt we are going to have. However, to the extent we can make other sacrifices to afford a good education for our children then we will make them. That being what it is, We would move if it where a reasonable option but it's not. We wouldn't reduce our monthly mortgage amount even if we moved. Relatively speaking our mortgage is reasonable. I checked current rent prices in the surrounding areas and to move into a better school district would actually cost us more per month even if we were renting a 2 bedroom apartment.

We both went to top 25 universities for undergrad and law/graduate school. In hindsight no it wasn't the best decision given the career paths we chose. However, as first generation college students we didn't know any better. We certainly wouldn't advise our
Children to do the same. The bulk of the loans are mine from law school. We do hope to pay down my husbands at some point (a portion will be forgiven after a certain time period) but that's only going to move the needle marginally. Either way I won't be held hostage by my student loans and I'm certainly not going to move my kids in a ghetto over them.

You're making another financial mistake here. You should calculate your mortgage + children's tuition vs rent/mortgage in neighborhood with good schools. I seriously doubt that if you calculate it this way, that sending your kids to private school is worth it. Tuition for two + aftercare (which you will need, esp if you are planning on working a second job) will easily come to $6500/month. That alone will get you an amazing house in the area's best school district. Also, if you consider the cost of summer programs (which you will also need, since you are working all year around), various fees, school events, birthday parties, school parties, auctions, etc., you should expect to add on an additional $2-3K/child/year. Please think twice about this. It's really not worth it.

There is no financial aid for mortgage or rent. While I appreciate what you are saying I'm not willing to dump our entire salary into a mortgage. God forbid something happened we can always ditch private school, but ditching a mortgage we have for at least 30 years won't be as easy. I have friends who made the decision to do exactly as you suggest and they are no more comfortable financially than we would be with private school tuition, and they too still have the added costs you mention. The reality is proving our kids a quality education will be a sacrifice either way. We currently pay mortgage and expensive daycare fairly comfortably. If we can keep our monthly payments in the same range (which of course we will need some FA to do) then it's doable. The headache of trying to sell or rent a home and find another in a good area that we can afford is more of a headache to me. I get its not what you would advise but it's a more comfortable approach for me.



This is one aspect of financial aid they can be a little hard to swallow for those stretching to pay full tuition. Essentially, what you are saying is that you prefer to live in a less expensive home and have other people pay for your child's private education then pay for a more expensive house yourself, because nobody would be putting your bill for you. I realize it is much more nuanced than that, but I think that gets to the heart of the difficulty many people face in supporting financial aid when they are themselves struggling to pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a lower middle class recipient of FA, I would like to point out the FA is not just for the family and child; the reason the top schools give generous financial aid is to attract students who can make a big contribution to their communities bringing diversity (racial, ethnic, cultural and economic), high intellect, leadership capacities, empathy and in some cases special talents and abilities. If the community did not have such students the learning environment would not be as good for all students.

In high school, maybe. In pre-K, not so much!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

Glad that wasn't your experience as, when it happened to me, it didn't feel good at all. I won't discount what you say is your experience and will thank you not to discount mine. Peoples' truths aren't smears just because they don't fit with your personal views or experience.

+100. While I obviously don't know anything about this incident, I wouldn't be that surprised. I've often found that the people most focused on racial diversity are among the least tolerant in terms of religious, political and cultural diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

Glad that wasn't your experience as, when it happened to me, it didn't feel good at all. I won't discount what you say is your experience and will thank you not to discount mine. Peoples' truths aren't smears just because they don't fit with your personal views or experience.

+100. While I obviously don't know anything about this incident, I wouldn't be that surprised. I've often found that the people most focused on racial diversity are among the least tolerant in terms of religious, political and cultural diversity.

A ridiculous blanket statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

What was her excuse for being an hour late?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

Glad that wasn't your experience as, when it happened to me, it didn't feel good at all. I won't discount what you say is your experience and will thank you not to discount mine. Peoples' truths aren't smears just because they don't fit with your personal views or experience.

You make a fair point. Your story (and what it implies) is just so outside the realm of what I have seen at NPS and what I know of the admissions team -- and I think everyone I know feels the same way I do (and we are not a homogenous group). I see the school as so open and warm and welcoming. But of course you are right: just because I cannot imagine something happening does not mean it didn't happen.

[Anonymous]

NP here. Though I do note the original title is meant to focus on another school, I just want to chime in that we are a "diversity" NPS family as well and we found the admission team to be the most responsive and professional of all the six we met. And that's saying a lot because, by and large, most of the ADs we met were pretty awesome.

I'm very sorry PP had such an experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a lower middle class recipient of FA, I would like to point out the FA is not just for the family and child; the reason the top schools give generous financial aid is to attract students who can make a big contribution to their communities bringing diversity (racial, ethnic, cultural and economic), high intellect, leadership capacities, empathy and in some cases special talents and abilities. If the community did not have such students the learning environment would not be as good for all students.

Can I ask you what your HHI is and what % of FA do you get?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

Glad that wasn't your experience as, when it happened to me, it didn't feel good at all. I won't discount what you say is your experience and will thank you not to discount mine. Peoples' truths aren't smears just because they don't fit with your personal views or experience.

This is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

Glad that wasn't your experience as, when it happened to me, it didn't feel good at all. I won't discount what you say is your experience and will thank you not to discount mine. Peoples' truths aren't smears just because they don't fit with your personal views or experience.

This is a troll.

I have a hard time imagining that this could happen. When we applied, I remember the team being in touch with me at 7 a.m. about a snow delay related change for a parent meeting and rescheduling with me immediately. I was very impressed. Totally on the ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We chose NPS instead as well.

We got turned off by the NPS admissions reps this year. We really like Beauvoir, so that's our first choice.

+1
NPS admissions rep was an hour late for our meeting (never sent word by way of update on timing). When she finally did connect she came off as cold. Let me know in a none too subtle way that religious diversity wasn't their "thing". Thing was, I didn't even initially ask about such diversity. She just picked up on my foreign name and then launched into that spiel complete with assumptions about my background, rattling off the number of Christian and Jewish kids and said she doubted there were families from other faiths. This was all within the first ten minutes of the conversation.
I got the message and didn't apply for my kid.
The new HOS is great and came from a diverse school. Maybe things will change on the admissions front in terms of diversity once he's in place at NPS.

I'm so surprised to hear this story, as an NPS parent with both a foreign last name and a non-Christian background. I help out with admissions events and Katy and Robin are both extremely thoughtful and sensitive about questions of diversity, faith etc., even to the point where it's a topic covered during the volunteer training. Nobody even remotely involved in the admissions process at NPS would ever dream of saying anything like "religious diversity isn't [our] "thing", much less those two highly professional admissions people.

Next time you want to smear a school or its representatives, come up with a more believable story. And, yes, the new HOS seems really great. We're excited to have him.

Glad that wasn't your experience as, when it happened to me, it didn't feel good at all. I won't discount what you say is your experience and will thank you not to discount mine. Peoples' truths aren't smears just because they don't fit with your personal views or experience.

Some people's "truths" (ha ha) are all in their head.

[Anonymous]

This thread has been around for a while and keeps getting bumped to the top. I sort of can't wait for March 1 to roll around so the OP can tell Beauvoir they aren't coming.