Ben Carson: Islamophobe of the Day

[Anonymous]

Nice glamour shots photo shot inside a studio. I am sure she isn't walking around outside in public in her country like that without her head or her legs covered. You are the one who is an idiot. Or you just don't care very much for the women in your life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Show me one picture of a Muslim first lady whose hair is not covered and who is showing her legs. Just one. Please!

Here you go, Mr or Ms. Moron:

Np. And the legs?

Can't you do your own googling?

[Anonymous]

Here you go, pig.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here you go, pig.

http://forum.purseblog.com/celebrity-style-threads/queen-rania-of-jordan-412054.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nice glamour shots photo shot inside a studio. I am sure she isn't walking around outside in public in her country like that without her head or her legs covered. You are the one who is an idiot. Or you just don't care very much for the women in your life.

Photo in Jordan, from the official website

[Anonymous]

Asma Assad in Damascus:

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I personally would not want my daughter or any other little girl seeing a First Lady covered head to toe in black cloth with only a small slit for their eyes.
As women in this country, we have come way too far for that. I also do not want my gay friends and family to find themselves again on the outskirts of society after the recent Supreme Court decision. Islam is not compatible with our constitution and our freedoms. I have no interest in shariah law becoming accepted anywhere in this country. I also find it terribly disturbing that liberal society thinks it is OK to discriminate against women and gays as long as you are Muslim. I am not saying all Muslims are bad people, certainly there are many more good Muslims than bad. But the basis of the religion is anti-woman and anti-gay and I am not OK with that. How anyone can deny the obvious is very disturbing.

Islam isn't anti-woman and it does not require women to cover head to toe, or wear all black, or cover their faces. No first ladies in Muslim-majority countries look like that, either.

Oh really? Yes they are required to cover head to toe and that's just the beginning. Show me one picture of a Muslim first lady whose hair is not covered and who is showing her legs. Just one. Please! Let's talk about honor killings, arranged marriages, women not being allowed to divorce abusive husbands. Pre-marital sex is considered a CRIME against Islam. I wouldn't want a sitting President in office who might be quietly sympathetic to any of these customs. And the liberal left is so up in arms over women's rights as far as abortion when it comes to Christianity. Notice you didn't mention Islam's stance on gays. Hypocrits. I agree with Ben Carson, I don't want a Muslim in office anymore than I would want a Religious zealot like Huckabee in the Presidency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Islam

Women aren't required to dress all in black or cover their faces. This is what you said originally.

Arranged marriages are arranged for men and women. Men don't like them any more than women do.

Premarital sex is a crime in Islam for both men and women.

Plus, you're kind of an idiot for challenging us to show an uncovered Muslim first lady, when there are so many examples of them.

So sometimes Islam steals freedoms from BOTH men AND women is your defense? So that makes it all OK? Let's talk about Islam's stance on gays which it seems you will not address. I have many gay friends and family and find their core beliefs (and those of some Christians) on gays offensive. Seriously. Again, that's not what this country is about.

[Anonymous]

You pick the Queen of Jordan and post it over and over again. LOL. She is certainly stunning! Show me where this is the norm in the majority of Muslim countries because it's not. You know it and I know it. I am hardly a pig. I am a woman with a little girl who wants her rights as a woman to expand. I am a woman with many gay friends and family who wants them to be included and feel secure in society. Islam is not compatible with those wishes for the people I love. I am also offended by hard core Christians. People should be free to live the lives they chose. Islam does not believe this and I have a problem with that. That hardly makes me a pig.

[Anonymous]

You keep moving the bar, don't you?

First you say, show me the picture of a Muslim first lady who doesn't cover her head or legs. JUST ONE. That's what you said. OK, here you go, here's two. You come back huffing and puffing, it's a glamor shot, she doesn't walk outside like that. OK, here's a picture of her walking outside. Then you say, she doesn't walk outside like that in her country. Hmm, that wasn't what you asked for, but here's her shot uncovered in her country, and here's a Syrian one, too.

Then you say "show me where this is the norm in the majority of Muslim countries." Yo lady, that wasn't what you asked for. You pled, "JUST ONE". You got two. Now you want "the majority"? For real?

[Anonymous]

Mehriban Aliyeva

[Anonymous]

Sadly, I didn't have to move the bar very far to make my point but thanks for your efforts. It's pretty obvious for the vast majority of Muslim women and again GAYS!, oppression is a way of life. And oppression has no place here in our country. We are a nation still trying to right the wrongs of slavery, we don't need more wounds. If Islam evolves as a religion, then I will change my opinion, but until then I would have to agree with Dr. Carson.

[Anonymous]

throwing up pictures of muslim female 'royalty' is disgusting and makes my stomach turn. These women parade around like models when their citizenry is literally in the shit.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:
Can you state specifically which polices a Muslim candidate in the US is likely to expose based on her religion that you would oppose? Is it the praying five times a day that you believe would be disqualifying? The chance that the President might go on the Haj? Is it the charity that the President would demonstrate? The fasting? Or, her simple profession of faith? I am having a really difficult time understanding why all Muslims should be unconstitutionally barred from the Presidency.

NP here

I'll give a simple example. Muslims due to religious reasons do not consume pork. If they supported a policy banning or restricting pork products I would be opposed. It really boils down to how willing said person is to imposing their believes onto the general public. Nothing wrong with them practicing their believes as an individual. There is only an issue when/if they impose their religious beliefs onto the general public.

Poor example.
No way in hell such a bill would even make it to the floor.

Exactly why it's a good example because it doesn't past the mustard test of being "American". Which I think was the entire point of what Carson was saying. Keep in mind there are many things a President can do via executive order without requiring a bill. You don't want someone like that in office when its possible they could impose their will on many things.

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:
Can you state specifically which polices a Muslim candidate in the US is likely to expose based on her religion that you would oppose? Is it the praying five times a day that you believe would be disqualifying? The chance that the President might go on the Haj? Is it the charity that the President would demonstrate? The fasting? Or, her simple profession of faith? I am having a really difficult time understanding why all Muslims should be unconstitutionally barred from the Presidency.

NP here

I'll give a simple example. Muslims due to religious reasons do not consume pork. If they supported a policy banning or restricting pork products I would be opposed. It really boils down to how willing said person is to imposing their believes onto the general public. Nothing wrong with them practicing their believes as an individual. There is only an issue when/if they impose their religious beliefs onto the general public.

Jews have the same restriction. Do you oppose Jewish presidents? Catholics are not supposed to eat meat on Friday. If you like to eat meat on Friday, do you oppose Catholic presidents?

Again, if an individual candidate espouses positions that you oppose, don't vote for him. What I don't understand is that Ben Carson and many posters here oppose a Muslim candidate regardless of any political positions that candidate had simply due to her religion.

Your not getting it are you. I'm not oppose if they practice those beliefs on a personal level. I oppose them imposing those beliefs upon the general public. So yes, I oppose any individual who puts religion above the common good no matter the Religion.

Are you saying it is OK for a President to put religion above the common good? To impose their beliefs onto the general public? I hope not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sadly, I didn't have to move the bar very far to make my point but thanks for your efforts. It's pretty obvious for the vast majority of Muslim women and again GAYS!, oppression is a way of life. And oppression has no place here in our country. We are a nation still trying to right the wrongs of slavery, we don't need more wounds. If Islam evolves as a religion, then I will change my opinion, but until then I would have to agree with Dr. Carson.

Then why did you ask to show JUST ONE? Did you seriously doubt someone can find JUST ONE Muslim first lady who doesn't cover?