any popular schools that you just aren't interested in?

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Anonymous wrote:Any immersion program where the principal and other top administrators don't speak the language and the school doesn't know how to handle bilingual children (so there are only a handful). Not sheepish about it. Everybody doesn't love YY, OP.

And heritage mom is back!

And she's as tired as ever, but she does serve a purpose. With a WL in the hundreds for a handful of seats I know I would rather (and I'm sure LAMB and 2R and MV are in the same boat) we had a mechanism to could sort out the uncommitted, the wafflers, the band-wagon jumpers, etc. - all in advance.

I'd personally rather that the only families who apply to YY are those who are excited about Mandarin, and willing to set up [b]Mandarin playgroups and tutoring sessions, and maybe even music lessons and private sports.

Basically you are only interested in families with disposable income, all others go to your low performing neighborhood schools, YY doesn't want you.

[B]Music lessons and private sports should have been included as a lot of families cannot afford such luxuries.

Um, dial back the outrage and class warfare please. Even private school parents pay extra for music and sports and clubs, etc. Those are not acceptable outlays of taxpayer funds at a public school.

But YY is not a private school is it. I know that many parents act like it's a private school receiving public funds, but it is not private.

Right - it's a public school. So parents who want music lessons and sports teams and clubs and whatever else, presumably pay for that on their own dime. If they want to get together with other parents and arrange to pay for that stuff outside of school - what's the problem? I hope you realize parents at other schools - not just YY - do this too.

But to only want parents who can afford these extra affluent perks speak volumes about you or the poster who said that's the only families she wanted at YY.

You really have that all wrong. The school budget doesn't provide enough to pay for those perks and if the expectation is that the handful of parents who get involved at a school are supposed to cover the cost for all children out of their own pockets, then you have that wrong too.

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Let's get back to the topic. Are there any "popular" schools you just aren't interested in? (logistics, culture, etc are all answers)

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Anonymous wrote:Any immersion program where the principal and other top administrators don't speak the language and the school doesn't know how to handle bilingual children (so there are only a handful). Not sheepish about it. Everybody doesn't love YY, OP.

And heritage mom is back!

And she's as tired as ever, but she does serve a purpose. With a WL in the hundreds for a handful of seats I know I would rather (and I'm sure LAMB and 2R and MV are in the same boat) we had a mechanism to could sort out the uncommitted, the wafflers, the band-wagon jumpers, etc. - all in advance.

I'd personally rather that the only families who apply to YY are those who are excited about Mandarin, and willing to set up [b]Mandarin playgroups and tutoring sessions, and maybe even music lessons and private sports.

Basically you are only interested in families with disposable income, all others go to your low performing neighborhood schools, YY doesn't want you.

[B]Music lessons and private sports should have been included as a lot of families cannot afford such luxuries.

Um, dial back the outrage and class warfare please. Even private school parents pay extra for music and sports and clubs, etc. Those are not acceptable outlays of taxpayer funds at a public school.

But YY is not a private school is it. I know that many parents act like it's a private school receiving public funds, but it is not private.

Right - it's a public school. So parents who want music lessons and sports teams and clubs and whatever else, presumably pay for that on their own dime. If they want to get together with other parents and arrange to pay for that stuff outside of school - what's the problem? I hope you realize parents at other schools - not just YY - do this too.

But to only want parents who can afford these extra affluent perks speak volumes about you or the poster who said that's the only families she wanted at YY.

You really have that all wrong. The school budget doesn't provide enough to pay for those perks and if the expectation is that the handful of parents who get involved at a school are supposed to cover the cost for all children out of their own pockets, then you have that wrong too.

Failed logic.

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How is that "failed logic" PP? You seem to have an expectation of getting perks.

But, the money provided to charters by OSSE doesn't cover perks.

Yes, some of the parents can, on their own, afford to pay for some perks. But that doesn't mean those same parents can afford to pay for the perks for several other hundred kids as well.

Money doesn't grow on trees.

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Well? care to explain your logic and where you think the funds to cover the costs of providing perks to all the kids are supposed to come from??

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Anonymous wrote:How is that "failed logic" PP? You seem to have an expectation of getting perks.

But, the money provided to charters by OSSE doesn't cover perks.

Yes, some of the parents can, on their own, afford to pay for some perks. But that doesn't mean those same parents can afford to pay for the perks for several other hundred kids as well.

Money doesn't grow on trees.

I'm not the PP you're talking to or who said it, but after reading all these comments, it seems like that PP was responding specifically to this person and to the bolded:

Anonymous wrote:And she's as tired as ever, but she does serve a purpose. With a WL in the hundreds for a handful of seats I know I would rather (and I'm sure LAMB and 2R and MV are in the same boat) we had a mechanism to could sort out the uncommitted, the wafflers, the band-wagon jumpers, etc. - all in advance.

I'd personally rather that the only families who apply to YY are those who are excited about Mandarin, and willing to set up Mandarin playgroups and tutoring sessions, and maybe even music lessons and private sports.

All the comments about how the extras or perks aren't covered by school funding make sense. The idea though that there are parents at YY who wish that only parents who are willing (and obviously able, i.e. can afford it) to "set up Mandarin playgroups, tutoring sessions, and maybe even music lessons and private sports" speaks to a desire to have a very specific type of parent at YY: families with the time, desire and CASH to support these things.

I assume this PP just speaks for themself, and hopefully doesn't represent the overall parent perspective at YY. No, those programs don't fund themselves, and they sound lovely to be able to have where possible. But to prefer that only parents who supported them (which has to include affording them/paying for them, as that PP themself pointed out repeatedly) applied to the school is no doubt an elitist, uber-privileged perspective.

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Are you really arguing this issue. Really. The OP on this particular topic said that she ONLY wanted parents who could afford to pay for such perks to apply and attend YY. Basically she and you are arguing for a no FARMS public school. What a douche. If you don't want these kids perhaps you
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Use your money and go private and them you won't have to deal with these students. So happy YY and the charter board does not share your sentiments.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you really arguing this issue. Really. The OP on this particular topic said that she ONLY wanted parents who could afford to pay for such perks to apply and attend YY. Basically she and you are arguing for a no FARMS public school. What a douche. If you don't want these kids perhaps you
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Use your money and go private and them you won't have to deal with these students. So happy YY and the charter board does not share your sentiments.

Who are you replying to PP? It looks like you're replying to the post above yours (which I wrote) - if so, I totally agree with you, but it sounds like you may have missed that. Or maybe you meant to quote a different post and didn't... Anyway, I am the previous poster and I completely agree with all you say in this post.

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I don't see it that way. I'm not involved in Yu Ying but I think I can understand the sentiment the OP was driving at - I think the point the OP was probably trying to make was that they hope/wish that applicants to specialized schools like Yu Ying actually have a deep, genuine and serious interest in supporting that specialization as they do. Some of things the OP suggested, like play groups don't cost money.

That probably isn't just a YY thing, it no doubt cuts across to many other schools as well, as many specialized charters sometimes get kids and families showing up, who didn't fully understand or subscribe to what the school is about.

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"I checked the box for Yu Ying because I heard the name before... but what's this business about my kid having to talk in CHINESE?"

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Anonymous wrote:Let's get back to the topic. Are there any "popular" schools you just aren't interested in? (logistics, culture, etc are all answers)

LAMB and the other montessoris. Seems like a great school, but just not interested in montessori, and especially not past K. Not a statement on school quality.

Also, Yu Ying. We're not chinese and have no interest in the language. Again, not a statement on the school.

Plus some others based on commute, but that depends on where you live, so less worthy of mention.

Also not crazy about one or two of the larger and more homogenous-seeming "wotp" schools, but have to respect the test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see it that way. I'm not involved in Yu Ying but I think I can understand the sentiment the OP was driving at - I think the point the OP was probably trying to make was that they hope/wish that applicants to specialized schools like Yu Ying actually have a deep, genuine and serious interest in supporting that specialization as they do. Some of things the OP suggested, like play groups don't cost money.

That probably isn't just a YY thing, it no doubt cuts across to many other schools as well, as many specialized charters sometimes get kids and families showing up, who didn't fully understand or subscribe to what the school is about.

I would guess all parents at specialized schools would hope for this. But hoping for this is different from hoping for parents that would also support other specials and "private sports", which absolutely costs real money and time. Probably everyone can get on board with "it would be nice if the only people applying were doing so because they understand the mission/specialized nature of the school and they want it and will support it". But the private sports PP said more than that and it sounded like they are indeed looking for a private school environment and families in a publicly funded school, even if they didn't think they sounded that way.

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We weren't interested in Capitol Hill Montessori for several reasons. First, I prefer a more traditional learning environment. Second, this is 2014. I don't want my kids to learn French, I want them to learn Spanish.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's get back to the topic. Are there any "popular" schools you just aren't interested in? (logistics, culture, etc are all answers)

I was never interested in Two Rivers. It felt like they were inventing the wheel too much in middle school with science and history. Those topics are not that hard to teach in an inquiry-based way at those ages--let the teachers focus on what the kids need to learn and not on creating some mind-blowing essential question and finding resources on incredibly complex topics for early adolescents. This may be the case with all expeditionary learning schools (Cap City was too far away for me to consider it), which bums me out because I think it's a cool model, but yeah, no Two Rivers for me. Lots of people seem to love it, though, so that's a good thing!

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I am not interested in MV. I think it has grown to big too soon and it frightens me. I don't want my kid to an experiment. I will let them have test results for a year or two and settled with the huge expansion before it piques my interest.