what have Hill parents demanded of middle schools?

[Anonymous]

I live at 15th and C SE, and have for 10 years. I have no idea what PP is talking about.

[Anonymous]

No, no, no - don't shut down the Cap Hill Hater - this person is my favorite poster!!!

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I get it. People who overpayed for a rowhouse at 16th and F NE (or pick some other location) want to brag that they live on Capitol Hill...

Funny, this pops up every once in a while, but makes very little sense.

First of all, there is no 16th & F, NE. But lets take a house near 15th and C SE. Which is still Hill East. If we take someone who bought at the absolute Peak of the Peak--Feb of 2007--they would have seen a rise in home equity from $567k to about $700k today.

That means tomorrow they could walk away with $140k in equity--if they wanted to. How have they "overpayed" [sic] exactly?

Ah yes, 2007 @ 15th and C SE. Drive-bys, spent bullet casings, broken crack pipes, armed robberies and burglaries. Not exactly a place for a bucolic walk after dark. Turn the clock forward six years. Still conveniently located with proximity to Potomac Gardens and Kentucky Court. Residents and their children still being menaced at the Payne Rec Center. 37 aggravated assaults, robberies and other non-property crimes classified as violent within 1500 feet over the past 12 months. I also pretty sure homeowners Glen and Laurie didn't chip away at their $100K in equity with a HELOC in order to fix the place up. PT Barnum hit the nail on the head.

If you can't pound the facts, pound the table.

We can argue all day long about whether people should *want* to live at 15th & C SE. The bottom line is, they do. And someone who bought in Feb of 2007 made a killing. You consider someone who's seen a 25%+ increase in home equity over 5-6 years as having "overpayed". As with anyone who holds an irrational and intransigent view, you are entitled to hold it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://dcist.com/2007/05/capitol_hill_cr.php

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-06-30/news/mn-148_1_brutal-murder

[Anonymous]

We can argue all day long about whether people should *want* to live at 15th & C SE. The bottom line is, they do. And someone who bought in Feb of 2007 made a killing. You consider someone who's seen a 25%+ increase in home equity over 5-6 years as having "overpayed". As with anyone who holds an irrational and intransigent view, you are entitled to hold it.

This is completely false at this location and its immediate surroundings. Prices are flat at this location and its immediate surroundings. Stop the BS.

[Anonymous]

Prices are not flat at this location. Flippers are buying house near here and renovating and making money. Houses sell fast. There is very little near me for less than 500K, and we bought our house for 330K 9 years ago.

[Anonymous]

I disagree that SWS never had a SH feeder - it was a part of the cluster. So families that opted to stay with SWS rather than go to Peabody now no longer have a SH feed, unless they are otherwise in boundary for SH. Is that right? And are the SH boundaries anything other than the Cluster boundaries? I think the reason that it matters is that it is a school that still pulls predominately from Capitol Hill families - even though it is citywide I think there are more CH families than in many of the other schools that feed to SH (certainly more than LT or JO Wilson).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shaw and Walker Jones are also schools in ward 6 serving middle school students

Yes, technically they are part of Ward 6, but only because Tommy Wells allowed Jack Evans to unload what Evans considered to be a less affluent and politically hostile part of Shaw only a couple of years ago, presumably because Wells needed to try to expand his lily white constituency in anticipation of a Mayoral run. In any event, Walker-Jones is not strictly speaking a middle school and no one from the high-SES population residing "east of the tracks" is going to jump at the chance to send their kids there, which is the context of this discussion.

Shaw is closed and in Ward 2.

[Anonymous]

Uh, 15th and c se is a fine location now! 2 blocks to Safeway, 4 to Harris teeter, 4-5 to metro. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue about the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I disagree that SWS never had a SH feeder - it was a part of the cluster. So families that opted to stay with SWS rather than go to Peabody now no longer have a SH feed, unless they are otherwise in boundary for SH. Is that right? And are the SH boundaries anything other than the Cluster boundaries? I think the reason that it matters is that it is a school that still pulls predominately from Capitol Hill families - even though it is citywide I think there are more CH families than in many of the other schools that feed to SH (certainly more than LT or JO Wilson).

SH boundaries are NOT the same as the Cluster. Cluster boundary is much larger and drawn along dramatically different geographic areas with small overlap-- See for yourself. Rising Watkins, JO Wilson, and LT 5th graders gain SH seats by right, plus anyone who lives in the smallish SH boundary (not that it's impossible to gain OOB fwiw)

MS
http://www.dc.gov/DCPS/Files/downloads/SCHOOLS/Boundary%20Maps%20-%202009/DCPS-Attendance-Zones-Middle-Schools-September-2009.pdf

ES
http://dc.gov/DCPS/Files/downloads/SCHOOLS/Boundary%20Maps%20-%202009/DCPS-Attendance-Zones-Elementary-Grades-September-2009.pdf

As for the feeder -- it's only relevant if you attend 5th grade. Attend Cluster from PS through 4th and try your hand at a charter for 5th grade? If you want to jump back to a neighborhood school you don't regain that feeder right and need to live IB or lottery OOB.

Since SWS has never reached 5th grade (let alone 3rd), it has never needed an MS feeder and has rightfully never had one. It had an ES feeder of Watkins. In principle it should never need or get a feeder as a city wide school that's fine for many SWS parents, who will probably have to choose between charters for 5th or private/moving for 6th.

[Anonymous]

Most addresses at SWS today feed into SH. Without preference for the school itself, the addresses they live at still get it.

[Anonymous]

Is SH fully enrolled this year? What is SH's enrollment this year? What is its capacity? Can you get in OOB?

[Anonymous]

I think I just heard Catania's say in his hearing that it's over 90% - bit sure about OOB rates, he said he'd post something on his website.

[Anonymous]

He said it's the highest enrollment of any Eastern feeder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I disagree that SWS never had a SH feeder - it was a part of the cluster. So families that opted to stay with SWS rather than go to Peabody now no longer have a SH feed, unless they are otherwise in boundary for SH. Is that right? And are the SH boundaries anything other than the Cluster boundaries? I think the reason that it matters is that it is a school that still pulls predominately from Capitol Hill families - even though it is citywide I think there are more CH families than in many of the other schools that feed to SH (certainly more than LT or JO Wilson).

very interesting point -- and true