I think that's because people with kids are the most likely to give up the dogs. The rescues don't want a dog going in and out of homes, which makes it less adoptable. At some shelters, if a dog is returned it cannot be adopted out again. So they are really trying to save the dog and have the dogs' best interest in mind. HOwever, what the rescues say officially and what they do may be different. We found that if you showed dog experience, shelters were much more willing to adopt to a family with kids. The story we got from one person was that puppies nip, so they didn't like to send puppies to houses with kids. But once we said we were aware that puppies nip/jump/have accidents and that we planned to train our dog, the doors were open wide. I think too many people imagine a cute little puppy to play with their toddler without realizing that there is a TON of work involved in bringing a new dog home. Add in a demanding toddler and its a recipe for disaster for an unsuspecting family and a tragedy for the dog. |
| We have a English Spainel, who is wonderful with all ages of kids. He is the sweetest, gentlest dog I have ever owned. When we researched we wanted a breed that was good with kids, not too big, and slightly active so that we could take a dog on a hike. We found all of that with our spainel. |
I can't seem to locate the local Schnauzer rescue. Can someone post a link, please. |
http://www.schnauzerrescue.net/ |
Are you sure Thunder Labrador is a "reputable" breeder? I just looked at their website and they sound more like a puppy mill. I hope you did your homework before you have a puppy shipped from them. Their health guarantee sounds meaningless because they do not have pedigree and clearance information of the boys or girls (not even listed on the page) and because the warranty runs out long before most of those problems will be diagnosed in most labs. Good luck. |
I also agree with this. Our lab mix (part black lab, part sheltie) is amazing with the kids, smart, much smaller than the average lab, and the temperament of a lab. We got her from a rescue and one of the best family decisions we have made! |
Thank you for your concern. Thunder Labradors is not a puppy mill. I am not having a "dog shipped"; my husband is flying out personally to inspect and select. If you knew about dog genetics, you would know that for the conditions where the mother's pedigree is silent, it requires that both parents be carriers for the pup to be affected. Sort of like how I am a carrier for CF but my husband is not. I received a detailed questionnaire from Richard Spike before he would accept my deposit. Most puppy mills sell to to pet stores. The stud dog pedigree is there, btw, so I wonder how carefully you looked at the site. I have had a number of extended phone coversations with the breeder, Richard Spike. But, please, take all the pot shots you want. Just a month ago, I held my dying Lab in my arms while I sat on the floor at Friendship, singing the song I made up for him while he was a puppy. I was by myself - my husband was not available to go. This past weekend I spead his ashes at his favorite spot in the mountains. That dog - that incredible amazing fabulous dog - was bought for about $250 from a rural farm in South Carolina as a Christmas present to my then-fiance and now DH through an ad my in-laws found in the paper. The owners of his parents were not professional breeders, and he didn't have a champion title to his name. My in-laws didn't check DNA, they didn't check the pedigree, they didn't do squat. But please, feel free to piss all over my new dog all you want. Maybe you're right and this is a crappy dog we are getting and he is doomed to get something horrible the second he arrives in DC and my $1,000 is for naught. That's a chance I am prepared to take. If Richard Spike is a con man, he sure spent a lot of time talking to this "mark" as she sobbed about her dead Lab. |
| Get a grip, PP. You sound a little too defensive . . . the other poster raised legit questions. |
| No, the other poster raised uneducated questions, not legit ones. Genetics 101. But that poster is also the same poster who is probably OUTRAGED that I am not getting a rescue even though they said they won't give me one since I have an almost 4 year old. Go figure. I did give them a big donation when my lab died, as did our dogwalker and others who knew my lab, so maybe she will cut me a break on that basis? |
They can be great. Our Rottweiler mix is fantastic with children-- which is a good thing, because he's a baby magnet. Wherever we go, every kid wants to touch and greet him, and he's supremely tolerant of them. He's my daughter's best friend and true to his Rottweiler heritage, he thinks that he's also her nanny. Whatever else is in him makes him a more reasonable size, and more able to enjoy outdoor play without getting exhausted. Our neighbor's rescued Finnish Spitz mix is another lovable, gentle pet that we trust near our daughter any time. That said, my husband and I are very experienced dog people and I am a former horse trainer. Between us, we know a lot about animal behavior. So finding the "right" rescue dog is something we can be confident in. Families who have less confidence in their ability to find the right dog alone and who want to get a rescue dog should consider two ways of maximizing your chances of getting it right: (1) go to a rescue that has the dogs in foster homes with experienced volunteers looking after them. You will then know much more about how the dog behaves in a home with people, other animals, neighbors, riding in a car, etc. over a period of time. Often the coordinators of these rescues (like Partnership for Animal Welfare) will know which animal in their rescue might be right for you; and (2) You can hire a knowledgeable dog trainer (not associated with a breeding operation, so they won't be trying to sell you their own dog) to assess you, work with you, and evaluate the rescue dogs that you are considering. This is a very worthwhile investment of your time and a relatively modest sum of money to make sure that the individual rescue mutt you find lives up to the reputation that mutts have. This will also help you avoid the heartbreak of having to give up a dog who seemed suitable but isn't. |
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I have an english bulldog and he's by far the best dog I could have with my 1-year old.
1) I don't have to walk him on a regular basis. In fact, he gets a bit irritated when I try to take him for walks 2) He's not bright so he's perfectly happy to entertain himself if I'm not around. And by entertain himself, I mean sleep. 3) He lets my son pull his tail, try to climb him, grab at his ears, poke his mouth and examine his teeth. 4) He lets my son try to eat out of his food bowl and rearrange his food into his water bowl. The only downside is he snores. So loudly. |
Okay so I rasied uneducated questions, shoot me. I glanced at the website quickly. No I'm not the outraged one. |
OK, outraged/Lab Mom in mourning poster here. Thank you for your follow on post. As you (and the whole blogosphere) can tell, losing my Lab was in the category of NOT SO EASY for me. Let's all raise a glass and toast to the big boy. You can repeat his initials - BVK - after me. Next, we'll raise our glass to all of those moms trying to find the right dog for their families and their children. I freely admit Labs are not for everyone. I feel like I should say God bless or something to you all. Outraged Lab poster, over and out. |
| Any one out there who has a Schnoodle? What do you think? |
I agree with this. Our terrier-poodle-dachshund mix, a rescue dog, is the best family dog ever. Our neighbor has had poodles for ages and told me she'll never do it again - too many health issues due to breeding. |