What's the difference between Amherst and Pomona?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want vague comments about prestige but actual concrete differences between the students, the culture, the academics, the campuses, etc.

Weather. Also at Amherst athletes, blacks, LGBTQ self segregate from others. I find it ironic considering Amherst supports diversity, even though majority is white, wealthy and athletic.

I’m a rising junior and this just isn’t true. I don’t know why anyone would even try to claim this. What is your connection to our school?

Why is a college student on DCUM?

They're contributing more to this conversation than either you or I are.

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Pomona has a nice student center. The Claremont’s have nice spaces too that are easily accessible.

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Anonymous wrote:Also want to concur that I have heard that Amherst is hoarding their endowment and the campus looks dumpy.

We were there a year ago when touring most of the NSECAC's and a few ivies. We thought the campus was beautiful - greenspace and buildings both.

Their facilities are behind peers, beside the science center. They really need to work on capital investments soon.

Amherst has a brand new (and huge) student center opening this fall, with a new cafeteria also.

After years of construction. And that’s not really helping when they have outdated academic facilities.

The dorms are among the best within their peer group.

Some of the academic facilities are a little ugly, but so what? The ones where the facility matter (science) have an excellent building, and all of the buildings are otherwise in good condition.

Math department is in a disgusting outdated building. It is decades behind peers.

Seeley Mudd (amherst college):
Wachenheim Science Center (williams college):
Estella Laboratory (pomona college):
Science Center (swarthmore college):

Science Center (Amherst College)
Horrendous cherrypicking here.

How is this cherrypicking? The science center is not where mathematics is done. The science center is also literally the only building of its kind at Amherst.

You're taking three science buildings and comparing them to a non science building.

Also, in addition to the science center, there's Beneski and the Lyceum, both of which have a good number of classrooms.

And once again, SMUD is ugly and old, but it's well-maintained and has everything you need to teach math: desks and chalkboards. What's the big deal?

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Better building means better program? Don't you have to look at how students doing after graduation?

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Academically, Amherst is clearly better than Pomona, Go asking US News.

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Anonymous wrote:Academically, Amherst is clearly better than Pomona, Go asking US News.

They're equivalent. There's nothing academically superior by either, "clearly better" is not just a stretch, its a fabrication.

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Anonymous wrote:Academically, Amherst is clearly better than Pomona, Go asking US News.

They're equivalent. There's nothing academically superior by either, "clearly better" is not just a stretch, its a fabrication.

I guess you don't look at outcomes of law, medical, business school and wall street hire.

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Anonymous wrote:Academically, Amherst is clearly better than Pomona, Go asking US News.

They're equivalent. There's nothing academically superior by either, "clearly better" is not just a stretch, its a fabrication.

I guess you don't look at outcomes of law, medical, business school and wall street hire.

They’re mostly comparable outside of Wall Street. Pomona has more STEM, PhD, tech, public service interested kids and performs better on those than Amherst.

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Yeah, there’s already a school in the consortium that outperforms both Pomona and Amherst for business and IB- CMC.

Kids interested in those field self select for CMC instead. It has nothing to do with Pomona being an inferior school, it’s just a product of the overall environment among the Claremont Colleges and the students each tends to attract.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, there’s already a school in the consortium that outperforms both Pomona and Amherst for business and IB- CMC.

Kids interested in those field self select for CMC instead. It has nothing to do with Pomona being an inferior school, it’s just a product of the overall environment among the Claremont Colleges and the students each tends to attract.

Pomona also leads for consulting, just not IB. According to this list, Pomona and CMC are the top two liberal arts colleges feeding into consulting: https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/from-college-to-consulting/

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I really preferred Pomona to Amherst when I toured last year and in '23 with two different kids. Amherst does indeed look ... if not dumpy, not investing in their campus.

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Anonymous wrote: I really preferred Pomona to Amherst when I toured last year and in '23 with two different kids. Amherst does indeed look ... if not dumpy, not investing in their campus.

Pomona is the king of dumpy. Many buildings are 100+ years old and look it. There’s no up-to-date buildings on campus, and some classes even happen outside because they’re lacking space! Would not attend.

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Anonymous wrote: I really preferred Pomona to Amherst when I toured last year and in '23 with two different kids. Amherst does indeed look ... if not dumpy, not investing in their campus.

This is called character and history-something Pomona wouldn’t know about. School is too young to have that entrenched historical culture that pops at Amherst

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Anonymous wrote: I really preferred Pomona to Amherst when I toured last year and in '23 with two different kids. Amherst does indeed look ... if not dumpy, not investing in their campus.

Pomona is the king of dumpy. Many buildings are 100+ years old and look it. There’s no up-to-date buildings on campus, and some classes even happen outside because they’re lacking space! Would not attend.

this was not our tour.

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Anonymous wrote:Also want to concur that I have heard that Amherst is hoarding their endowment and the campus looks dumpy.

We were there a year ago when touring most of the NSECAC's and a few ivies. We thought the campus was beautiful - greenspace and buildings both.

Their facilities are behind peers, beside the science center. They really need to work on capital investments soon.

Amherst has a brand new (and huge) student center opening this fall, with a new cafeteria also.

After years of construction. And that’s not really helping when they have outdated academic facilities.

The dorms are among the best within their peer group.

Some of the academic facilities are a little ugly, but so what? The ones where the facility matter (science) have an excellent building, and all of the buildings are otherwise in good condition.

Math department is in a disgusting outdated building. It is decades behind peers.

Seeley Mudd (amherst college):
Wachenheim Science Center (williams college):
Estella Laboratory (pomona college):
Science Center (swarthmore college):

Science Center (Amherst College)
Horrendous cherrypicking here.

How is this cherrypicking? The science center is not where mathematics is done. The science center is also literally the only building of its kind at Amherst.

You're taking three science buildings and comparing them to a non science building.

Also, in addition to the science center, there's Beneski and the Lyceum, both of which have a good number of classrooms.

And once again, SMUD is ugly and old, but it's well-maintained and has everything you need to teach math: desks and chalkboards. What's the big deal?

That’s where Swarthmore, Williams, and Pomona have mathematics departments. Math is in the natural sciences and so goes in the science center.