Is St. John's Becoming an IMG?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

They don’t have a good football program to attract applicants. They have a good football program so that good football players have a program to go to.

They don’t have a good theater program to attract applicants. They have a good theater program so that they have a good program for the students who want to do theater.

They don’t have a good science program to attract applicants. They have a good science program so that they have a good program for student students that love science.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

The prep and Gonzaga dads are about to come at you… AT YOU… for saying they don’t have a good football program.

Sidwell and GDS will never have a good football program… so why try

The reality is our area needs good football programs, it needs good basketball programs, it needs good science program programs, it needs good theater program programs… y’all mad because they have good programs?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

The prep and Gonzaga dads are about to come at you… AT YOU… for saying they don’t have a good football program.

Sidwell and GDS will never have a good football program… so why try

The reality is our area needs good football programs, it needs good basketball programs, it needs good science program programs, it needs good theater program programs… y’all mad because they have good programs?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Loving THIS! Truth!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

The prep and Gonzaga dads are about to come at you… AT YOU… for saying they don’t have a good football program.

Sidwell and GDS will never have a good football program… so why try

The reality is our area needs good football programs, it needs good basketball programs, it needs good science program programs, it needs good theater program programs… y’all mad because they have good programs?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Why "TF" are you equating sports and academics? It's a school, not the NFL.

Students who go to SJC can play football. Unless, of course, they recruit super hard for football such that only the new recruits can play.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

The prep and Gonzaga dads are about to come at you… AT YOU… for saying they don’t have a good football program.

Sidwell and GDS will never have a good football program… so why try

The reality is our area needs good football programs, it needs good basketball programs, it needs good science program programs, it needs good theater program programs… y’all mad because they have good programs?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Why "TF" are you equating sports and academics? It's a school, not the NFL.

Students who go to SJC can play football. Unless, of course, they recruit super hard for football such that only the new recruits can play.

Sigh.

When they aggressively recruit kids who aren’t catholic and aren’t equipped to handle the academics from far-flung public schools to play football or basketball and give them a full scholarship for sports then that begs the question “why”.

I assume the school somehow benefits financially despite subsidizing tuition. And I suppose that answers the OP’s question.

I mean, SJC imported a basketball player from another country a number of years ago. Why? It’s weird, right?

Bullis, GC, and even GP recruiter and subsidize star athletes.

Apparently sports matter, so maybe SJC will go national.

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It’s telling that most of the kids in the Benilde program (academic support) are athletes. In fact, many of the coaches are tutors in this program. My daughter is an athlete at the school and reports that those recruited for varsity scholarships as freshman had HSPT scores in the 30% range - way below the norm!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

The prep and Gonzaga dads are about to come at you… AT YOU… for saying they don’t have a good football program.

Sidwell and GDS will never have a good football program… so why try

The reality is our area needs good football programs, it needs good basketball programs, it needs good science program programs, it needs good theater program programs… y’all mad because they have good programs?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Why "TF" are you equating sports and academics? It's a school, not the NFL.

Students who go to SJC can play football. Unless, of course, they recruit super hard for football such that only the new recruits can play.

Sigh.

When they aggressively recruit kids who aren’t catholic and aren’t equipped to handle the academics from far-flung public schools to play football or basketball and give them a full scholarship for sports then that begs the question “why”.

I assume the school somehow benefits financially despite subsidizing tuition. And I suppose that answers the OP’s question.

I mean, SJC imported a basketball player from another country a number of years ago. Why? It’s weird, right?

Bullis, GC, and even GP recruiter and subsidize star athletes.

Apparently sports matter, so maybe SJC will go national.

Fun fact. A few years ago, SJC expelled a star football player who didnt maintain the school’s minimum GPA. The player left SJC and went to IMG.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

The prep and Gonzaga dads are about to come at you… AT YOU… for saying they don’t have a good football program.

Sidwell and GDS will never have a good football program… so why try

The reality is our area needs good football programs, it needs good basketball programs, it needs good science program programs, it needs good theater program programs… y’all mad because they have good programs?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Why "TF" are you equating sports and academics? It's a school, not the NFL.

Students who go to SJC can play football. Unless, of course, they recruit super hard for football such that only the new recruits can play.

Sigh.

When they aggressively recruit kids who aren’t catholic and aren’t equipped to handle the academics from far-flung public schools to play football or basketball and give them a full scholarship for sports then that begs the question “why”.

I assume the school somehow benefits financially despite subsidizing tuition. And I suppose that answers the OP’s question.

I mean, SJC imported a basketball player from another country a number of years ago. Why? It’s weird, right?

Bullis, GC, and even GP recruiter and subsidize star athletes.

Apparently sports matter, so maybe SJC will go national.

Fun fact. A few years ago, SJC expelled a star football player who didnt maintain the school’s minimum GPA. The player left SJC and went to IMG.

The school’s minimum gpa or the minimum gpa for superstar athletes?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s telling that most of the kids in the Benilde program (academic support) are athletes. In fact, many of the coaches are tutors in this program. My daughter is an athlete at the school and reports that those recruited for varsity scholarships as freshman had HSPT scores in the 30% range - way below the norm!

This is interesting. My non-athletic kid applied to Benilde and I was hoping it wasn’t a program with just athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s telling that most of the kids in the Benilde program (academic support) are athletes. In fact, many of the coaches are tutors in this program. My daughter is an athlete at the school and reports that those recruited for varsity scholarships as freshman had HSPT scores in the 30% range - way below the norm!

This is interesting. My non-athletic kid applied to Benilde and I was hoping it wasn’t a program with just athletes.

Wow. Please don’t believe everything you read here. Ask current parents at the school first. Benilde does not exist as a crutch for athletes and is not simply “academic support.” Whoever wrote this knows nothing about the Benilde Program or its students.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s telling that most of the kids in the Benilde program (academic support) are athletes. In fact, many of the coaches are tutors in this program. My daughter is an athlete at the school and reports that those recruited for varsity scholarships as freshman had HSPT scores in the 30% range - way below the norm!

This is interesting. My non-athletic kid applied to Benilde and I was hoping it wasn’t a program with just athletes.

Wow. Please don’t believe everything you read here. Ask current parents at the school first. Benilde does not exist as a crutch for athletes and is not simply “academic support.” Whoever wrote this knows nothing about the Benilde Program or its students.

Oh please, don't let the clever branding fool you. It is what it is...

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how the recruitment works? Does SJC give a lot of aid or only to top athletes that truly need it?

My kid is a football recruit and we did not apply for aid because we will not qualify. We only know three other recruits personally, and I know they would also not qualify for aid. At no time has anyone suggested there is other aid or scholarships for recruits. I hope and expect aid is there only for families who need it.

The aid is obviously for star athletes whether they need it or not.

Note: a star athlete is actively recruited by multiple schools, so the aid (read: full ride) is offered as a carrot.

And it gets better:

Does your school have a star athlete from another country or out of state?

If so, those kids sometimes live with a host family whose own kid gets a tuition discount or full ride. I know two area privates that have done this/are currently doing this.

And your full tuition covers this.

(Not that you’ll answer this, but) which two schools?

I mean, everyone can probably guess the two—but the reality is most schools known for sports does this.

I know boys who were aggressively recruited. All the usual suspect schools threw money at them despite the fact that the families were objectively affluent.

I also know of an athlete from another state currently attending an area private. Full ride for the athlete, and free tuition for the family hosting him.

And I know another family at a different school that hosted an international student athlete. Same deal: free ride for the athlete and the host family’s student.

As a full-pay family, I cannot for the life of me understand why athletics are prioritized to the extent they are. They must bring in significant money for the schools, but I can’t understand how exactly.

Maybe this will help you understand.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/under-armour-founder-gives-16m-to-dc-hs-alma-mater/109734/?amp=1

Kevin would have given SJC millions regardless of whether the football team was playing well. After all, SJC took him in when he was kicked out of Gtown Prep.

He similarly gave $ to HR (where he attended k-8), and HR has never been a sports powerhouse.

Lots of alums who get lucky and strike it rich make gifts to their former schools, but that doesn’t explain why schools over-emphasize certain athletic programs by giving free rides to athletes who otherwise wouldn’t set foot in the school.

Certain events with strong programs draw prospective families to campuses. Football games attract thousands every week during the fall. A strong theater program can also be simarly impactful. It helps showcase the beauty of your campus and might generate further curiosity into your academic and other programs.
It can also help with media attention- look at what PVI basketball is doing for a school that many hadn't heard of before.

Isn't SJC already attracting applicants?

Yes.

They had something ridiculous like 1,500 applicants for 350 seats.

They certainly don’t need a good football team to attract applicants.

To maintain it and shape the class the way that you want, yes you do.

Then how come Sidwell, GDS, etc. don’t need a good football team? Or even Prep or Gonzaga?

The prep and Gonzaga dads are about to come at you… AT YOU… for saying they don’t have a good football program.

Sidwell and GDS will never have a good football program… so why try

The reality is our area needs good football programs, it needs good basketball programs, it needs good science program programs, it needs good theater program programs… y’all mad because they have good programs?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Why "TF" are you equating sports and academics? It's a school, not the NFL.

Students who go to SJC can play football. Unless, of course, they recruit super hard for football such that only the new recruits can play.

Sigh.

When they aggressively recruit kids who aren’t catholic and aren’t equipped to handle the academics from far-flung public schools to play football or basketball and give them a full scholarship for sports then that begs the question “why”.

I assume the school somehow benefits financially despite subsidizing tuition. And I suppose that answers the OP’s question.

I mean, SJC imported a basketball player from another country a number of years ago. Why? It’s weird, right?

Bullis, GC, and even GP recruiter and subsidize star athletes.

Apparently sports matter, so maybe SJC will go national.

Fun fact. A few years ago, SJC expelled a star football player who didnt maintain the school’s minimum GPA. The player left SJC and went to IMG.

The school’s minimum gpa or the minimum gpa for superstar athletes?

I know this one (went to IMG) and another 2 years younger. Both couldn't meet SJC's minimum GPA. Both local kids and both now playing at top level teams in college. One was a 5 star recruit just to tell you the type of talent he has. SJC still wouldn't keep him around.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s telling that most of the kids in the Benilde program (academic support) are athletes. In fact, many of the coaches are tutors in this program. My daughter is an athlete at the school and reports that those recruited for varsity scholarships as freshman had HSPT scores in the 30% range - way below the norm!

This is interesting. My non-athletic kid applied to Benilde and I was hoping it wasn’t a program with just athletes.

Wow. Please don’t believe everything you read here. Ask current parents at the school first. Benilde does not exist as a crutch for athletes and is not simply “academic support.” Whoever wrote this knows nothing about the Benilde Program or its students.

Oh please, don't let the clever branding fool you. It is what it is...

You obviously do not know many Benilde kids or have a student at SJC.