You have no idea what medical care our ancestors would have provided to their dogs had treatment options been available. The field of veterinary medicine has advanced tremendously in the last 50 years, even the last 25. The research and development and medical equipment are very expensive. The cost of health care in general has skyrocketed over the last 50 years. |
Many other cultures treat pets similarly. They're not people. Wackadoodle people will start arguments about this, using humans as examples. They should be ignored completely because domesticated animals kept as pets are simply not the same as humans, nor should they be prioritized similarly. Human needs come first, so if you can't pay your bills because of the pet, it's time for the pet to go. For an older pet with QOL issues that are expected to increase, a humane death with the family it knows and loves is an acceptable option, and preferable to rehoming (in most cases) as there simply aren't enough homes looking for older pets with QOL issues. USian pet culture has gone totally mad, and there's a whole industry built to profit off it. People need to think, and this thread clearly shows how little of that is going on these days. Y'all scare me! |
Follow the money. The basic care hasn't increased in value, but someone's making a LOT more money. |
Why are you sock puppeting? Is it really so important for you to post multiple times, ranting? |
Feeding a dog and paying for medical care beyond the basics are two very different things. |
Why am I obligated to take my indoor cat to the vet 4 times a year? Who decides this? My kids don’t go to the doctor 4 times a year. |
I’ve never had a cat and don’t know anything about cats. I was talking about a dog. They usually need vaccinations multiple times per year. Between a yearly well exam and dentist visits every 6 months, you should be taking your kids to see a doctor 3 times per year even if they have zero illnesses or injuries and don’t go to the eye doctor. That’s the minimum standard of care recommended. |
This is correct, because 99% of people who have pets they actually take to the veterinarian in the first place value their pets' places in their lives, and good veterinarians know that there are plenty of healthy animals in need of homes and actually do feel bad about prolonging the lives of the ones that are ill just for their own financial benefit. They aren't dancing in the throes of McMansion luxury. It's a hard type of medical practice. You have to celebrate young healthy lives and let other ones go. They aren't sentient in the same way humans are. I have a SIL who is a three decade vet surgeon and my daughter is working her way through vet tech school. She keeps bringing home pets like lab rats because she doesn't want to see them euthanized after training purposes. Like how to put in IVs etc. I don't know what's currently going on with my SIL's practice because her brother and I are divorced, but I know her place did get absorbed into a big thing and got a whole new giant building in the next city. I also know from before that at home she and her household were reaching capacity with the animals she was taking home, though. And, one day while she was at work, two of the dogs she thought she knew well just packed up in their nice outdoor pen situation and killed one of the vulnerable older ones she was trying to save. Animals are not humans |
It's a well known thing for foreign bots to attack Americans on known weaknesses ... they go for race, lack of medical care and in general, attention to pets. I had a high degree of suspicion when someone posted earlier that in the US state of (GA? Maybe) someone claimed there were large packs of stray dogs that roamed the streets and she didn't feel safe walking with her kids. Or something. In the US one of the things we somehow sort of get right (that being a comparative term) is that we actually do have things like animal control officers and fines and required licensing for our pet dogs who have to be vaccinated to get those licensing. Where they DO have roaming packs of stray dogs ... that would be Russia and only because I have relatives who still live in Russia. Also the middle east. Lots of stray cats and dogs alike. But that's not really a thing in the US. Who here who lives in the US has a real problem with roaming stray unvaccinated domestic dogs who are not coyotes or wolves? That was made up imho |
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"I was talking about a dog. They usually need vaccinations multiple times per year."
No, they don't lol If they're healthy they get seen once a year. And Rabies vaccinations which are necessary for licensing in your jurisdiction are only needed every 3 years. Other vaccinations like distemper I lose track of because distemper is just not in my personal experience, but you don't need to take a dog into the vet multiple times a year if they are otherwise sound happy animals who eat and drink and all that good stuff. |
What's your evidence that there's sock puppeting? I've posted on this thread, but I see several other posts where people feel similarly, that aren't mine. You may want to seek help for your belief that you know who is posting on a public message board where thousands of people post a day. |
Look, if your dog doesn’t have contact with other dogs, you can skip the twice yearly bordetella vaccination, but many people use dog walkers or doggie daycares or board their dogs, and their dogs should be getting it. |
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My cat, who I love and who is presently sitting next to me, hates the vet. Hates having blood drawn, hates dealing with people who are not his family.
He is getting older but is still in really good healthy. That's a a relief for us. But when his health starts to fail, as it inevitably will because he's a mortal creature, I will balance the cost of providing him medical care against how much it will actually help him. I don't want him in pain and I want him to live as long as possible. But, for instance, once he turned 15 we decided that if he needs any kind of surgery, we will request palliative care instead and put him to sleep. Putting him through the trauma of the testing, anasthesia, and recovery for surgery, at his age, and given that this would certainly cost us thousands of dollars, doesn't make sense to me. He would hate it. It would be disorienting for him. He can't tell us how he feels. Why would I do that to him? What is the purpose of putting him through that and spending that money? To extend his life for another year or two? When he may encounter additional health problems that require additional care he will also hate the experience of? Where does that end? When he was a young cat, we spent 2.5k on a surgery that saved his life. It involved him spending a couple nights in an animal hospital and a several week recovery. That was over a decade ago and he's been very healthy since then, so that was unquestionably worth it to me. I hope his life has been good enough that if he were capable of understanding that choice, he would agree -- we have tried to give him the best possible life we can. But there is an age at which that just doesn't make sense. To the degree to which I can understand his preferences, I really just don't think he would want us to spend money we need for other things to prolong his life in that way at this point. He has had a good life, hopefully he gets some more of that good life, but come on. There are limits. I'm not putting a 16 yr old cat in chemotherapy treatment. I'm just not. I'm giving him pain meds and putting him to sleep when it seems like he's had enough. |
why do dogs need vaccines multiple times a year? so you get to decide how often my pet goes to the vet? interesting. |
Dogs older than a year only need annual shots, a few of which are optional, provided your dog is kept indoors/on leash and you don't board to use a pet sitter/dog walker who could spread contagious diseases between households/packs. Mandatory vaccines (like rabies) are often offered at shot clinics at shelters for less than $30/shot, or even free with the purchase of a license (because it's a public health issue). Indoor-only cats may not require annual vetting at all unless there's some kind of issue. As for your second comment, not only are pets not people, but people have insurance coverage that makes annual wellness checks a minimal expense. Dental cleanings, even without insurance, aren't usually cost-prohibitive either. |