Is 12:05 seriously trying to argue that the best college that any white kid at any OSSE school has ever been admitted to is UDC?
Must be some interloper here to stir up trouble. Anyone who knows DC would know that that’s an absurd falsehood. |
New poster in this thread and new mom of freshman. Not umc but white and overeducated. It is WAY too early to say it is a great school for my kid - always add the "for my kid" because there is no universal great school. But so far we are happy and think we made the right choice. Kid seems happier than he was in 8th grade. I don't frequent the school forum much anymore since it's really for elementary schools, but I'll pop back during lottery season with any updates on the learning environment. |
dp: Of course she's not saying that. What she is saying is that DCPS doesn't care much about helping white kids reach their highest potential. Teachers care, but not DCPS as a system. They are not shy about taking that position, despite being a system that is supposed to serve everyone. |
Exactly. Their goal is to get into any college like UDC. They are not here to challenge your kid to reach their full potential to get into the best college. Any college will do. That’s the standards and white families get ignored. |
This is absolutely true, with maybe the exception of Walls? But DCPS seems kind of hostile to pushing and identifying high achievers. |
Agreed. Our experience in DCPS has been that teachers care about helping (or really, demanding) every kid reach their highest potential. |
LOL! Some teachers may care but when you are pressured by the system to bring up the bottom that is who you are going to focus on. BTW differentiation doesn’t work past early elementary and definitely doesn’t work when you have classes where kids are 3-4 levels apart. That is why tracking is effective. But of course, we can’t have this because of “equity” Now central is shoving an abysmal new science and ELA curriculum in DCPS. Just watch, scores are just going to get worst as standards continues to be lowered yet again |
Meanwhile in reality, the average SAT score for white students in DCPS (1251) is higher than the average SAT score for white students in FCPS (1209). Which, as the FCPS press release points out, is higher than the average SAT score for white students in Virginia (1142) or the United States as a whole (1083).
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/School%20Year%202023-2024%20SAT%20Scores_0.xlsx https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-class-2024-continues-surpass-state-and-global-sat-averages |
And? |
This is meaningless. You are not comparing apples to apples at all. |
I was informed upthread that additional tracking is urgently necessary past third grade, otherwise my white DCPS high schooler would never have the academic success that they’ve (checks notes) already had. The SAT data shows that it’s not just my kid. |
First of all, your sample size is small (449) compared to FCPS, VA, and the country. It is also likely that the majority of these kids are WOTP in an area with a very high concentration of educated, UMC parents who also likely supplement, test prep, etc…. If you take all that into consideration, I would expect it to be higher. I walked into the SAT and took it cold turkey with absolutely no studying or prep at all and scored 1200’s. |
Your take is exactly DCPS's. The scores are decent, so shouldn't that be enough? That completely ignores consideration of the cohort you are starting with. You've got a group of kids from the most highly educated families in the country. Can you imagine what the scores would be if they were challenged consistently through DCPS? |
This. The white kids group in DC skews way to the right of the bell shape curve. DC is the most highly educated city in the country. It is not similar at all to kids in poor areas in FCPS, rural VA or anywhere in the country. The SAT scores should be higher. This is how DCPS tries to narrow the achievement gap is by lowering the top. |
The fact that most kids are below grade level “is not a reliable indicator of school quality.” Oh, really? And what is? Your subjective opinion that the school is “great”? |