LAC prestige analysis and reputation?

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Anonymous wrote:for me Williams and Pomona are tops. Amherst feels a little dusty.

Keep pushing that Pomona thing little girl. Maybe someday dreams will come true.

I think their "dream" has already come true as the most competitive LAC with one of the highest yields around...
I don't think most normal people see any real difference between Williams and Pomona, other than real academic distinguishes (tutorials and consortium).

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Anonymous wrote:WASP is the best. The top 15 in general are very strong.

Top ten LACS are all rigorous and virtually indistinguishable. Separating out WASP from the rest is silly.

WASP + Bowdoin. Then a drop off.
Then you have your 10 schools - CMC, Mudd, Colby, Wellesley, Grinnell, Wesleyan, Carleton, Vassar, Midd, Haverford
Trajectories matter even amongst those 10, second tiers though: CMC and Mudd have rising stock, as does Wesleyan (after a downturn) and Carleton; Wellesley and Vassar are holding steady; and Midd, Haverford, Grinnell, and Colby are on a decline (especially Midd).

I am confident that 100% of what you wrote is incorrect.

But are you 100% confident?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:for me Williams and Pomona are tops. Amherst feels a little dusty.

Keep pushing that Pomona thing little girl. Maybe someday dreams will come true.

I think their "dream" has already come true as the most competitive LAC with one of the highest yields around...
I don't think most normal people see any real difference between Williams and Pomona, other than real academic distinguishes (tutorials and consortium).

One is better for athletes; one is better for everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this necessary? Honestly…

You are well educated and obviously have intelligent children. Do your research and find schools that are the best fit for his educational, personal, social needs.

Why do these groupings and designations matter so much?

+1. Isn't there a point in life where you quit trying to impress others?

Yes, but their children aren't there yet.

And obviously they aren't at the point where their kids can be idle rich.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband & I both went to ivies for college and law school. So have most of our friends. Our DD is at Brown and our DS is considering a LAC which is new for our family.

Which of the following LACs have the most global and national prestige?

Williams: seems like the best one overall in terms of rep

Williams, Amherst, Wesleyan: "little three"

Williams, Amherst: I see them referred to as Ivy lite?

Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona: often grouped together as WASP?

Bowdoin, Middlebury: For my non-Ivy/Stanford friends, these seem like the net two highest in terms of prestige

Wesleyan: is this as prestigious as it used to be?

Carleton, Haverford: next most intellectually rigorous in terms of rep, but we prefer northeast to midwest

Wesleyan is not what it used to be and does not get kids who are T20 range from private schools in our area(NJ-NY corridor).
Stick with Williams Amherst and Swarthmore for most ivy-like LACs yet not quite as hard to get into, especially with ED. Great outcomes and all are on top-company target lists and do well with top law and top med schools.
Pomona is its own thing vibe-wise, but is top4 and right for fit for some.
Next would be Wellesley, Bowdoin, Carleton, Davidson, CMC, Mudd as far as intellectual quality. They are not ivy-level but are akin to T16-25 privates as far as outcomes/reputation.

Can you elaborate on how Pomona is its own thing? How are the students and opportunities different than at the other 3 of WASP?

DP

West Coast. Is in a small town with 4 other SLACs

[Anonymous]

How many threads do we need to have for these six people to litigate their positions on this question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously a troll post, as any serious analysis of this question would of course begin with Bucknell at the top of the prestige list.

Also, there is simply no way a couple with 4 Ivy League degrees between them would not have long since already formed strong opinions on this matter.

Fee, fi, fo, fum I smell the blood of state school strivers on D-C-U-M!

DP.

My wife and I are also double barreled Ivy and the while we have friends that went to SLACs, we know very little about them.
We are both the children of immigrants if you wanted a reason for our ignorance.
Neither of us have noticed an perceivable advantage of one over SLAC over the other and when it comes to global recognition... quantity has a quality all its own.
Places like Cornell have outsized international reputation because they have so many graduates that have convinced the rest of the world that Cornell is the "STEM Ivy"
Harvard law has a much better reputation than either Yale or Stanford because there are once again, so many graduates around the world telling everyone how good it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many threads do we need to have for these six people to litigate their positions on this question?

Wait, are you saying there are only 6 top SLACs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously a troll post, as any serious analysis of this question would of course begin with Bucknell at the top of the prestige list.

Also, there is simply no way a couple with 4 Ivy League degrees between them would not have long since already formed strong opinions on this matter.

Fee, fi, fo, fum I smell the blood of state school strivers on D-C-U-M!

I have not heard the Bucknell name in other countries but I have heard they have a pipeline to The Street.

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everyone commenting seems to have connectivity to one of the schools they are blindly touting - honestly I never heard of Pomona before DCUM, and I’m a long time MD at an IB that recruits at top schools- and now read this forum because I have a kid going through athletic recruiting. I agree the only schools I’ve ever really thought were comparable to ivies were Amherst and Williams. Don’t know Bowdoin Pomona Carleton from a hole in the wall- and I’m one of the guys making personnel decisions when we evaluate talent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously a troll post, as any serious analysis of this question would of course begin with Bucknell at the top of the prestige list.

Also, there is simply no way a couple with 4 Ivy League degrees between them would not have long since already formed strong opinions on this matter.

Fee, fi, fo, fum I smell the blood of state school strivers on D-C-U-M!

DP.

My wife and I are also double barreled Ivy and the while we have friends that went to SLACs, we know very little about them.
We are both the children of immigrants if you wanted a reason for our ignorance.
Neither of us have noticed an perceivable advantage of one over SLAC over the other and when it comes to global recognition... quantity has a quality all its own.
Places like Cornell have outsized international reputation because they have so many graduates that have convinced the rest of the world that Cornell is the "STEM Ivy"
Harvard law has a much better reputation than either Yale or Stanford because there are once again, so many graduates around the world telling everyone how good it is.

OK, but do you think America cares what the rest of the world thinks? It has the luxury of not having to. Do you think UK citizens care what the rest of the world thinks about its unis? Any deviation from what they think is characterized as ignorance.

Do you realize that Yale is considered the top law school by those in the know? True prestige, for better or worse, is what people from that country think is the most prestigious. The rest is ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:everyone commenting seems to have connectivity to one of the schools they are blindly touting - honestly I never heard of Pomona before DCUM, and I’m a long time MD at an IB that recruits at top schools- and now read this forum because I have a kid going through athletic recruiting. I agree the only schools I’ve ever really thought were comparable to ivies were Amherst and Williams. Don’t know Bowdoin Pomona Carleton from a hole in the wall- and I’m one of the guys making personnel decisions when we evaluate talent

Dude, don’t be proud of your ignorance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:everyone commenting seems to have connectivity to one of the schools they are blindly touting - honestly I never heard of Pomona before DCUM, and I’m a long time MD at an IB that recruits at top schools- and now read this forum because I have a kid going through athletic recruiting. I agree the only schools I’ve ever really thought were comparable to ivies were Amherst and Williams. Don’t know Bowdoin Pomona Carleton from a hole in the wall- and I’m one of the guys making personnel decisions when we evaluate talent

Dude, don’t be proud of your ignorance.

I’m not, and I’m sure Pomona has a strong brand and reputation in Ohio or wherever it’s located

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:everyone commenting seems to have connectivity to one of the schools they are blindly touting - honestly I never heard of Pomona before DCUM, and I’m a long time MD at an IB that recruits at top schools- and now read this forum because I have a kid going through athletic recruiting. I agree the only schools I’ve ever really thought were comparable to ivies were Amherst and Williams. Don’t know Bowdoin Pomona Carleton from a hole in the wall- and I’m one of the guys making personnel decisions when we evaluate talent

Cause Pomona isn’t a big IB school- you’re not in the industry where you’d see many Pomona alumni. Students go into med school, law school, grad school, tech, and they tend to be based in New York or the west coast.

If you haven’t heard of Claremont McKenna and you’re in IB, though, you’re probably just old lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:everyone commenting seems to have connectivity to one of the schools they are blindly touting - honestly I never heard of Pomona before DCUM, and I’m a long time MD at an IB that recruits at top schools- and now read this forum because I have a kid going through athletic recruiting. I agree the only schools I’ve ever really thought were comparable to ivies were Amherst and Williams. Don’t know Bowdoin Pomona Carleton from a hole in the wall- and I’m one of the guys making personnel decisions when we evaluate talent

Cause Pomona isn’t a big IB school- you’re not in the industry where you’d see many Pomona alumni. Students go into med school, law school, grad school, tech, and they tend to be based in New York or the west coast.

If you haven’t heard of Claremont McKenna and you’re in IB, though, you’re probably just old lol.

yeah mid 50s - just giving my opinion - guess a conclusion can be that this is not a school to be looking at if you are targeting IB