TX flood and climate change

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Anonymous wrote:Should add Dr Probst went to Horace Mann (private NYC) and Princeton. She is entitled as one could be and you have to wonder did this education that we know some of these schools cause her to go in this direction? We have to become kinder in our nation. Disagree on policy but care for one another.[/quote

She is your typical uppity beeyotch who was taught that her every fart was precious and brilliant. Just say what you feel! The result is a no filter personality that got her in huge trouble.
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Anonymous wrote:Texas has a culture of ignoring safety concerns and being incredibly cheap with anything they do build so they can grift as much money from the government as possible. No surprise local officials failed their community.


Yep. According to this, it’s been a known issue for a while and the state repeatedly denied the county the needed funding.
https://apple.news/AigV9uhyQTWuXY92Wg0o8dA

“In 2017 and again in 2018, state officials denied the county a $1 million grant to build a flood warning system that would have upgraded 20 water gauge systems, added new water level sensors and posts, and created software and a website to distribute that information to the public in real-time.
“We can do all the water level monitoring we want, but if we don’t get that information to the public in a timely way, then this whole thing is not worth it,” Then-County Commissioner Tom Moser said at a January 2017 meeting, days before the application deadline.”
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Anonymous wrote:Should add Dr Probst went to Horace Mann (private NYC) and Princeton. She is entitled as one could be and you have to wonder did this education that we know some of these schools cause her to go in this direction? We have to become kinder in our nation. Disagree on policy but care for one another.

It's so weird that you keep bringing up a single, unelected rando who said something hateful on social media. If we are going to be talking about unelected people on social media saying hateful stuff, why not focus on Musk?


Not a rando. This is serious where you see a physician justify people including children dying due to her feelings on climate change. She came across as gleeful -“bless their hearts” she said in her post. This is scary. I hope this is thoroughly investigated. Again people can have feelings on climate change and other political topics but the hate needs to stop. This person should not be practicing medicine. Can you imagine the fear if you are worried your doctor is taking your political affiliation into account treating you or your family. Cannot even imagine.


Can you imagine the fear having a President that hates you if you're a Democrat and won't help you if you're in a blue state? Cannot even imagine.



Can’t imagine it, huh? Wow…….

Ummmm, this already happened. To red states. Courtesy of a president that hated republicans. Florida and North Carolina, in the wake of a massive hurricane that left a wake of destruction, especially in western North Carolina.

FEMA was almost nonexistent. It was neighbors helping neighbors and private volunteers who opened many roads and delivered food and supplies.


Your ignorance is breathtaking.


You're so gullible....keep drinking the MAGA kool aid
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Anonymous wrote:Should add Dr Probst went to Horace Mann (private NYC) and Princeton. She is entitled as one could be and you have to wonder did this education that we know some of these schools cause her to go in this direction? We have to become kinder in our nation. Disagree on policy but care for one another.

It's so weird that you keep bringing up a single, unelected rando who said something hateful on social media. If we are going to be talking about unelected people on social media saying hateful stuff, why not focus on Musk?


Not a rando. This is serious where you see a physician justify people including children dying due to her feelings on climate change. She came across as gleeful -“bless their hearts” she said in her post. This is scary. I hope this is thoroughly investigated. Again people can have feelings on climate change and other political topics but the hate needs to stop. This person should not be practicing medicine. Can you imagine the fear if you are worried your doctor is taking your political affiliation into account treating you or your family. Cannot even imagine.


Can you imagine the fear having a President that hates you if you're a Democrat and won't help you if you're in a blue state? Cannot even imagine.



Can’t imagine it, huh? Wow…….

Ummmm, this already happened. To red states. Courtesy of a president that hated republicans. Florida and North Carolina, in the wake of a massive hurricane that left a wake of destruction, especially in western North Carolina.

FEMA was almost nonexistent. It was neighbors helping neighbors and private volunteers who opened many roads and delivered food and supplies.


Your ignorance is breathtaking.


You're so gullible....keep drinking the MAGA kool aid


Also FEMA does not perform rescues. They are there after the disaster.
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Anonymous wrote:Texas has a culture of ignoring safety concerns and being incredibly cheap with anything they do build so they can grift as much money from the government as possible. No surprise local officials failed their community.


Yes I remember growing up in Texas I ignored every warning and played in the Gulf during nunerous hurricanes. Miracle I lived to be an adult by ignoring all safety
. I also like to walk around on planes during turbulence and drive 150 mph with no seatbelt.. Learned it in Texas!
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Anonymous wrote:Texas has a culture of ignoring safety concerns and being incredibly cheap with anything they do build so they can grift as much money from the government as possible. No surprise local officials failed their community.


Yep. According to this, it’s been a known issue for a while and the state repeatedly denied the county the needed funding.
https://apple.news/AigV9uhyQTWuXY92Wg0o8dA

“In 2017 and again in 2018, state officials denied the county a $1 million grant to build a flood warning system that would have upgraded 20 water gauge systems, added new water level sensors and posts, and created software and a website to distribute that information to the public in real-time.
“We can do all the water level monitoring we want, but if we don’t get that information to the public in a timely way, then this whole thing is not worth it,” Then-County Commissioner Tom Moser said at a January 2017 meeting, days before the application deadline.”


Amazing that after 100 Texans died in the worst floods in the USA in decades that the Texas newspaper is still asking about whether this time will make the difference so that they finally install the flood warning system. smh
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Anonymous wrote:Texas has a culture of ignoring safety concerns and being incredibly cheap with anything they do build so they can grift as much money from the government as possible. No surprise local officials failed their community.


Do you also blame California fire victims for ignoring warnings there?
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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of blaming Trump for everything, or blaming Biden, or whomever. Natural disasters happen, people die, it’s horrible and devastating but it’s not always someone’s fault. If that lake had a history of flooding, why was a children’s camp built right there beside it?


Alternatively you could ask why that Texas town didn’t value flood monitoring enough to pay the $50k required to install a rudimentary system. Instead they wanted to keep taxes low. Smart science based policies save lives. Regulations about flood areas save lives. Rural Texas voted against this and now there’s a lot of dead kids (and adults).


Why I would never send my child to camp in rural Texas. Yes disasters happen. But this one was predictable had they had smarter local government officials.

https://www.tovima.com/wsj/officials-pushed-for-better-warning-system-for-years-before-deadly-floods/
Officials Pushed for Better Warning System for Years Before Deadly Floods

07.07.2025
17:00
The Wall Street Journal
By Scott Calvert, John West, Jim Carlton and Joe Barrett, The Wall Street Journal

A sheriff in 2016 recalled pulling ‘kids out of trees’ in summer camps as leaders repeatedly discussed installing a siren system, but didn’t do so
former sheriff pushed Kerr County commissioners nearly a decade ago to adopt a more robust flood-warning system, telling government officials how he “spent hours in those helicopters pulling kids out of trees here (in) our summer camps,” according to meeting records.

Then-Sheriff Rusty Hierholzer was a proponent of outdoor sirens, having responded as a deputy to the 1987 floods that killed 10 teenagers at a camp in nearby Kendall County. He made the comments in 2016, after deadly floods ravaged a different part of Texas the year before.

“We were trying to think of, what can we do to make sure that never happens here?” Hierholzer, who served as Kerr County sheriff from 2000 to 2020, recalled in an interview Sunday with The Wall Street Journal. “And that’s why we were looking at everything that we could come up with, whether it be sirens, whether it be any other systems that we could.”

That suggestion, from him and others, was never adopted.


Seems like red states have very short memories about preventable tragedies…


Do you also blame "blue state" California for its repeated fire deaths?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Trump but the people screaming over this aren’t doing anything helpful.

For the love of all that is good, get off the internet. Donate to the Red Cross. Help a neighbor. Take a walk. Talk to an actual person.


+ a million.
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Anonymous wrote:Should add Dr Probst went to Horace Mann (private NYC) and Princeton. She is entitled as one could be and you have to wonder did this education that we know some of these schools cause her to go in this direction? We have to become kinder in our nation. Disagree on policy but care for one another.

It's so weird that you keep bringing up a single, unelected rando who said something hateful on social media. If we are going to be talking about unelected people on social media saying hateful stuff, why not focus on Musk?


Not a rando. This is serious where you see a physician justify people including children dying due to her feelings on climate change. She came across as gleeful -“bless their hearts” she said in her post. This is scary. I hope this is thoroughly investigated. Again people can have feelings on climate change and other political topics but the hate needs to stop. This person should not be practicing medicine. Can you imagine the fear if you are worried your doctor is taking your political affiliation into account treating you or your family. Cannot even imagine.


Can you imagine the fear having a President that hates you if you're a Democrat and won't help you if you're in a blue state? Cannot even imagine.



Can’t imagine it, huh? Wow…….

Ummmm, this already happened. To red states. Courtesy of a president that hated republicans. Florida and North Carolina, in the wake of a massive hurricane that left a wake of destruction, especially in western North Carolina.

FEMA was almost nonexistent. It was neighbors helping neighbors and private volunteers who opened many roads and delivered food and supplies.


Your ignorance is breathtaking.


You're so gullible....keep drinking the MAGA kool aid


Also FEMA does not perform rescues. They are there after the disaster.


Yeah I think there is a profound misunderstanding about FEMA’s role after disasters.
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Anonymous wrote:Texas has a culture of ignoring safety concerns and being incredibly cheap with anything they do build so they can grift as much money from the government as possible. No surprise local officials failed their community.


Yep. According to this, it’s been a known issue for a while and the state repeatedly denied the county the needed funding.
https://apple.news/AigV9uhyQTWuXY92Wg0o8dA

“In 2017 and again in 2018, state officials denied the county a $1 million grant to build a flood warning system that would have upgraded 20 water gauge systems, added new water level sensors and posts, and created software and a website to distribute that information to the public in real-time.
“We can do all the water level monitoring we want, but if we don’t get that information to the public in a timely way, then this whole thing is not worth it,” Then-County Commissioner Tom Moser said at a January 2017 meeting, days before the application deadline.”


Amazing that after 100 Texans died in the worst floods in the USA in decades that the Texas newspaper is still asking about whether this time will make the difference so that they finally install the flood warning system. smh


If they can’t get timely flooding information out to the public than for the love of god move people away from the river in general. Don’t pack all the kids camps in an area prone to flash floods.
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Anonymous wrote:Texas has a culture of ignoring safety concerns and being incredibly cheap with anything they do build so they can grift as much money from the government as possible. No surprise local officials failed their community.


Do you also blame California fire victims for ignoring warnings there?


I would if they had summer camps specifically located in fire prone areas during fire season.
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Mo-Ranch, 17 miles from Mystic, successfully evacuated all campers. Elevation was on their side for sure.

So many camps in Kerr County. Not all signals were shoddy and some camps had enough time to act based on warnings, functioning technology, common sense. Why didn’t others warn Mystic? Hell, some of those camps had many hours to act. They had to know Mystic was in the worst possible zone. A single security person or director or even a spare counselor could have driven their truck 15 minutes down to Mystic to 🆘 At the very least, alerted county emergency dispatchers on behalf of Mystic.



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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of blaming Trump for everything, or blaming Biden, or whomever. Natural disasters happen, people die, it’s horrible and devastating but it’s not always someone’s fault. If that lake had a history of flooding, why was a children’s camp built right there beside it?


Alternatively you could ask why that Texas town didn’t value flood monitoring enough to pay the $50k required to install a rudimentary system. Instead they wanted to keep taxes low. Smart science based policies save lives. Regulations about flood areas save lives. Rural Texas voted against this and now there’s a lot of dead kids (and adults).


Why I would never send my child to camp in rural Texas. Yes disasters happen. But this one was predictable had they had smarter local government officials.

https://www.tovima.com/wsj/officials-pushed-for-better-warning-system-for-years-before-deadly-floods/
Officials Pushed for Better Warning System for Years Before Deadly Floods

07.07.2025
17:00
The Wall Street Journal
By Scott Calvert, John West, Jim Carlton and Joe Barrett, The Wall Street Journal

A sheriff in 2016 recalled pulling ‘kids out of trees’ in summer camps as leaders repeatedly discussed installing a siren system, but didn’t do so
former sheriff pushed Kerr County commissioners nearly a decade ago to adopt a more robust flood-warning system, telling government officials how he “spent hours in those helicopters pulling kids out of trees here (in) our summer camps,” according to meeting records.

Then-Sheriff Rusty Hierholzer was a proponent of outdoor sirens, having responded as a deputy to the 1987 floods that killed 10 teenagers at a camp in nearby Kendall County. He made the comments in 2016, after deadly floods ravaged a different part of Texas the year before.

“We were trying to think of, what can we do to make sure that never happens here?” Hierholzer, who served as Kerr County sheriff from 2000 to 2020, recalled in an interview Sunday with The Wall Street Journal. “And that’s why we were looking at everything that we could come up with, whether it be sirens, whether it be any other systems that we could.”

That suggestion, from him and others, was never adopted.


Seems like red states have very short memories about preventable tragedies…


Do you also blame "blue state" California for its repeated fire deaths?


DP here. I actually do blame Californians for living and rebuilding in known flood and fire prone areas. I think these homes should be uninsurable for floods even through the federal government. We (as taxpayers) are just enabling the lunacy.

I can’t stand Trump but I actually don’t really blame DOGE for this. Local politicians in Texas are the ones with the institutional memory and inside information. They have chosen repeatedly not to address this very well known issue.
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Anonymous wrote:Should add Dr Probst went to Horace Mann (private NYC) and Princeton. She is entitled as one could be and you have to wonder did this education that we know some of these schools cause her to go in this direction? We have to become kinder in our nation. Disagree on policy but care for one another.[/quote

She is your typical uppity beeyotch who was taught that her every fart was precious and brilliant. Just say what you feel! The result is a no filter personality that got her in huge trouble.


Apparently “Propst Derangement Syndrome” is a thing. Nobody else knows or cares who this lady is, and she has no meaningful say in anything, so why should we care. Stop trying to make us care. We don’t give a sit about your rants about this meaningless person and they won’t change anything.
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