Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.

What snappy headline would have changed the outcome? What did people who chose to vote for Trump not know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.

TLDR

Took more than 8 seconds.

Delicious irony given the PP’s remarks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.


What snappy headline would have changed the outcome? What did people who chose to vote for Trump not know?

Agree with everything posted---I don't think it is "snappy headline" but the micro-targeting that might have helped. Remember the Post story a few ago re how Elon Musk funded sophisticated micro-targeting of different groups with content designed to steer them toward Trump based on the micro-group's biggest hot-buttons. Just as JFK was the first "television" president, Trump is our first social media president and the Dems need to get better at that game. There also needs to be a concerted effort to restore balance in media ---between the death of local newspapers, the hegemony of Sinclair media in owning local TV stations---there is very little EXCEPT conservative echo-chamber across wide swaths of the country. As someone noted on here---there is no left-version of Joe Rogan commanding millions of followers. Dems also need to restore the tradition of small town papers/media that expose local corruption and focus on local issues and demonstrate the value of that kind of vigilance to voters.

And Dems also need to build a ground game emphasizing the value of a two party system that comes up with compromises instead of the Newt Gingrich/Mitch McConnell Zero-sum approach to governance. Whenever I visit my hometown in South Carolina, I am struck by how much people complain about the unchecked and unmanaged development that has resulted in huge traffic jams and unsafe country roads---since developers have no obligations to contribute to road improvement. The same friends and family who are complaining to me reflexively vote Republican because they have been brainwashed into thinking that all Dems are evil. If there were two viable parties instead of one-party rule, some of those negative development externalities might be more controlled, but they won't be as long as the developer dominated Republican Party has sole control. (I also feel the same way about the extreme blue jurisdictions---they need more balance in the other direction).

[Anonymous]

Dems harmed themselves by leaning too far into progressive-driven purity tests and a lack of strong, concise, pithy messaging.

Republicans won with strong, concise, pithy messaging even if it was massively distorted or outright lies.

Dems need to back up and focus on the most basic (Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs) - jobs with good wages, affordable housing, healthcare, groceries, safety, transportation and have that be their strong foundation with the pithy one-liners around all of that - and it's Dems who in fact have the most strength, solid foundation and most to offer in those areas and build their strong messaging around that.

And let the Republicans flounder with their own platform of cultish Trumpism, homophobia, hatred of immigrants and so on.

[Anonymous]

Clyburn. He got Biden elected in the first place. He put Harris in as next in line. He had to know Biden's character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dems harmed themselves by leaning too far into progressive-driven purity tests and a lack of strong, concise, pithy messaging.

Republicans won with strong, concise, pithy messaging even if it was massively distorted or outright lies.

Dems need to back up and focus on the most basic (Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs) - jobs with good wages, affordable housing, healthcare, groceries, safety, transportation and have that be their strong foundation with the pithy one-liners around all of that - and it's Dems who in fact have the most strength, solid foundation and most to offer in those areas and build their strong messaging around that.

And let the Republicans flounder with their own platform of cultish Trumpism, homophobia, hatred of immigrants and so on.

Nope not even close. The Dems failed by accommodating “moderates” and Biden unconditional support of Israel. The moderates abandoned Biden/Harris. Everyone knew Biden was done the moment he hugged Netanyahu. Netanyahu is a hard right nut job who will do anything to undermine Democrats and American democracy(and he did). Israel humiliated Biden and the US.

It’s all Mr Magoo’s fault. Remember as president he controls the DNC, refused to reform SCOTUS, chose Joe Manchin over progressive, chose a stimulus bill instead of addressing January 6, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems harmed themselves by leaning too far into progressive-driven purity tests and a lack of strong, concise, pithy messaging.

Republicans won with strong, concise, pithy messaging even if it was massively distorted or outright lies.

Dems need to back up and focus on the most basic (Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs) - jobs with good wages, affordable housing, healthcare, groceries, safety, transportation and have that be their strong foundation with the pithy one-liners around all of that - and it's Dems who in fact have the most strength, solid foundation and most to offer in those areas and build their strong messaging around that.

And let the Republicans flounder with their own platform of cultish Trumpism, homophobia, hatred of immigrants and so on.

Nope not even close. The Dems failed by accommodating “moderates” and Biden unconditional support of Israel. The moderates abandoned Biden/Harris. Everyone knew Biden was done the moment he hugged Netanyahu. Netanyahu is a hard right nut job who will do anything to undermine Democrats and American democracy(and he did). Israel humiliated Biden and the US.

It’s all Mr Magoo’s fault. Remember as president he controls the DNC, refused to reform SCOTUS, chose Joe Manchin over progressive, chose a stimulus bill instead of addressing January 6, etc.

I think the whole “you’re either with us or against us” purity testing is very damaging to the party. After being told enough times that I’m not a Democrat because I strongly disagree with what I consider to be a couple of irrational positions, I finally got the message and left the party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats are so washed up that they think bringing “youth” into leadership roles is replacing 80-somethings with 60-somethings.

How hilariously self-unaware of you to say this, considering you just got Trump, a 78 year old guy with dementia elected.

Uhhhh. You just got him too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.

What snappy headline would have changed the outcome? What did people who chose to vote for Trump not know?

I like “The GOP wants to kill your kids.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.

What snappy headline would have changed the outcome? What did people who chose to vote for Trump not know?

I like “The GOP wants to kill your kids.”

And in what way do they want to do that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One lost election does not a train wreck make.
What makes it a train wreck is who's coming, but if this is a serious question I'll weigh in.

It might not be a popular answer among my fellow Democrats, but DEI. Not because I think it's wrong, but because it's misunderstood and easily manipulated into easy, hate-filled talking points. But also (this is where I'll duck for cover from my fellow Democrats) it went too far. It was in response to hateful rhetoric but in my opinion (just mine, not even two cents worth) it took it too far. It was a social experiment in terms of a civil rights movement that, in this point in time, wasn't accepted. Maybe later, maybe not. I wished it was toned down to allow for real conversation, but no real conversation was ever allowed to happen because people retreated to their extreme corners and stayed there because any compromise on either side felt like weakness.

So that's my take. I think we as a country aren't able to do DEI correctly. I see it as microcosms in well-intentioned businesses and departments, but utterly failed execution of DEI. So we need to regroup and accept that we aren't there. We need to take baby steps and not beat people over the heads with it.

If we don't learn from this, and how to promote diversity, equity and inclusion in a very organic, real way, THAT will be the train wreck. It's not a department. It's not a training to check off your annual training list. IMHO.

How much DEI was given to Hispanics -- maybe that's why they voted for Trump.

At my workplace (a "Catholic" hospital) DEI means first black, then transgender, then Muslim. No one else even merits a mention.
New black manager immediately tried to fire Hispanic supervisor and replace him with a friend of hers. He told HR that she obviously had it out for him since he's been in that job for years and all previous managers gave him stellar reviews..HR said he was the biased one and sent him for re-educating. Wonder who he voted for.

What specific law did Biden and the Democrats pass requiring your Catholic hospital to put those policies in place?

Oh, don't bother answering, we already know the answer is "none."

He took an 80 year old desegregation act to the stratosphere.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/06/25/fact-sheet-president-biden-signs-executive-order-advancing-diversity-equity-inclusion-and-accessibility-in-the-federal-government/

You seem very confused or grossly misled.

Executive Orders are about how the Federal government runs and implements things and that has absolutely nothing to do with how your Catholic hospital runs or hires. And even in Federal government employment they do not do the "evil DEI things" you claim are happening at your own place of employment.

I do not believe you are literate.

Maybe a 6 year old learning how to use ChatGPT?

The whole pronoun thing came from this Executive Order and required all contractors to comply with this new world order.

Advances equity in the workplace for LGBTQ+ public servants. For too long, LGBTQ+ employees have faced discrimination and harassment in the workplace. To advance opportunity for LGBTQ+ employees in the Federal workforce, the Executive Order directs agencies to ensure that the Federal health benefits system equitably serves LGBTQ+ employees and their dependents by expanding access to comprehensive gender-affirming health care. Agencies are also directed to take steps to ensure that federal benefits like sick leave and life insurance equitably serve LGBTQ+ individuals and all families with diverse family structures. The Order charges all agencies to ensure that the usage of gender markers and pronouns in the Federal employment process respects transgender, gender non-conforming and non-binary employees, and directs all agencies to take steps to expand access to gender-neutral facilities inside federal workplaces. Finally, the Order charges all agencies with ensuring that their employee support services equitably serve LGBTQ+ employees, including, transgender and gender non-conforming and non-binary employees who wish to legally, medically, or socially transition.

I think you are the one who is illiterate. No, this EO *DOES NOT* require all contractors to comply. Nor does it apply to the Catholic church example given above. It simply does not, and the quotation you posted does not support that conclusion either.

And in fact even within federal agencies (the only place the EO did apply) most of it was taken as optional. Pronouns *ARE NOT* mandatory in any federal agency that I know of.

Again, you are proving to me that you are anti-trans to the point of hysterical about it (which in and of itself is bizarre because a pronoun never killed anyone), and that you DON'T actually know what you're talking about. You keep confirming that quite solidly.

Trying to shout the same wrong info louder and posting quotations that don't support your premise is not a winning strategy.

I get it, your are way passed your bedtime and ChatGPT is still hard and cannot discern this part of the executive order:

“ Finally, the Order charges all agencies with ensuring that their employee support services equitably serve LGBTQ+ employees, including, transgender and gender non-conforming and non-binary employees who wish to legally, medically, or socially transition.”

I will give you a hint as you plug this in to AI - “employee support services” were translated to contract support.

Yeah they're talking about HR. I don't think the Catholic church is providing support to transgender nuclear engineers working for the Department of Energy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.


What snappy headline would have changed the outcome? What did people who chose to vote for Trump not know?

Agree with everything posted---I don't think it is "snappy headline" but the micro-targeting that might have helped. Remember the Post story a few ago re how Elon Musk funded sophisticated micro-targeting of different groups with content designed to steer them toward Trump based on the micro-group's biggest hot-buttons. Just as JFK was the first "television" president, Trump is our first social media president and the Dems need to get better at that game. There also needs to be a concerted effort to restore balance in media ---between the death of local newspapers, the hegemony of Sinclair media in owning local TV stations---there is very little EXCEPT conservative echo-chamber across wide swaths of the country. As someone noted on here---there is no left-version of Joe Rogan commanding millions of followers. Dems also need to restore the tradition of small town papers/media that expose local corruption and focus on local issues and demonstrate the value of that kind of vigilance to voters.

And Dems also need to build a ground game emphasizing the value of a two party system that comes up with compromises instead of the Newt Gingrich/Mitch McConnell Zero-sum approach to governance. Whenever I visit my hometown in South Carolina, I am struck by how much people complain about the unchecked and unmanaged development that has resulted in huge traffic jams and unsafe country roads---since developers have no obligations to contribute to road improvement. The same friends and family who are complaining to me reflexively vote Republican because they have been brainwashed into thinking that all Dems are evil. If there were two viable parties instead of one-party rule, some of those negative development externalities might be more controlled, but they won't be as long as the developer dominated Republican Party has sole control. (I also feel the same way about the extreme blue jurisdictions---they need more balance in the other direction).

In order to have a left-wing Joe Rogan with millions of followers, you need to have a message that millions of people want to hear. There are left-wing podcasters and media, but they cater to a small audience that is getting smaller. They aren’t particularly successful at reaching out beyond their core audience of progressives.

Joe Rogan is a symptom, not a cause. The lack of a left-wing Joe Rogan isn’t structural, it’s because the message from the left is so profoundly unappealing and uninspiring. If the left had an inspiring, unifying message, a left-wing Joe Rogan would exist overnight, probably multiple.

But the progressive wing of the party has become more religion than political party, so they are as impervious to criticism as the far-right evangelicals.

[Anonymous]

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I originally blamed the DNC for “anointing” HRC in 2016; then (basically) doing the same in 2020 for Biden. Not that the primary slate in 2020 was that great so I get why they promoted him.
And obviously he won. So DNC got it right.
Really, after the debate, Biden was defiant and pissed for a month or so then drops out. Biden basically dictating Harris as his replacement and DNC goes along with it, then DNC blows through all the money and loses.

The problem is Democrats haven't had an open primary since 2008. Even in 2008, the media stepped in and heavily favored Obama. Democrats can blame messaging all they like, but Democrats haven't had a real debate about issues in a generation. That's why they keep losing to a gross, grifting reality show host. Of course, to debate, Democrats would have to be willing to let their preferred classes (URMs, women, etc.) lose an argument. I don't think they're ready to go that far yet.

The lack of an open primary hasn't helped, but also the conspiracy to push these "centrist" (corporate democrats) instead of candidates that care about real issues makes it hard to get excited about their choices. Some people complain about liberals or progressives but they've never run a real liberal or progressive. Harris for example would probably say anything to get elected. Like their GOP counterparts many have no moral compass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.


What snappy headline would have changed the outcome? What did people who chose to vote for Trump not know?

Agree with everything posted---I don't think it is "snappy headline" but the micro-targeting that might have helped. Remember the Post story a few ago re how Elon Musk funded sophisticated micro-targeting of different groups with content designed to steer them toward Trump based on the micro-group's biggest hot-buttons. Just as JFK was the first "television" president, Trump is our first social media president and the Dems need to get better at that game. There also needs to be a concerted effort to restore balance in media ---between the death of local newspapers, the hegemony of Sinclair media in owning local TV stations---there is very little EXCEPT conservative echo-chamber across wide swaths of the country. As someone noted on here---there is no left-version of Joe Rogan commanding millions of followers. Dems also need to restore the tradition of small town papers/media that expose local corruption and focus on local issues and demonstrate the value of that kind of vigilance to voters.

And Dems also need to build a ground game emphasizing the value of a two party system that comes up with compromises instead of the Newt Gingrich/Mitch McConnell Zero-sum approach to governance. Whenever I visit my hometown in South Carolina, I am struck by how much people complain about the unchecked and unmanaged development that has resulted in huge traffic jams and unsafe country roads---since developers have no obligations to contribute to road improvement. The same friends and family who are complaining to me reflexively vote Republican because they have been brainwashed into thinking that all Dems are evil. If there were two viable parties instead of one-party rule, some of those negative development externalities might be more controlled, but they won't be as long as the developer dominated Republican Party has sole control. (I also feel the same way about the extreme blue jurisdictions---they need more balance in the other direction).

In order to have a left-wing Joe Rogan with millions of followers, you need to have a message that millions of people want to hear. There are left-wing podcasters and media, but they cater to a small audience that is getting smaller. They aren’t particularly successful at reaching out beyond their core audience of progressives.

Joe Rogan is a symptom, not a cause. The lack of a left-wing Joe Rogan isn’t structural, it’s because the message from the left is so profoundly unappealing and uninspiring. If the left had an inspiring, unifying message, a left-wing Joe Rogan would exist overnight, probably multiple.

But the progressive wing of the party has become more religion than political party, so they are as impervious to criticism as the far-right evangelicals.

There is no progressive wing of the party at least not one that has any weight. Most of the recent democrat candidates make Nixon or Reagan seem liberal.

[Anonymous]

There are several things at play. The democrats got boxed in on a few lose-lose issues. If they spoke out against trans women in sports and women's spaces, then they'd offend the pro trans and highly progressive wings. If they spoke in favor, they offend the moderates. For Israel, speaking out against anything Israel is doing gets you branded as antisemitic. Being pro-Israel makes you pro-genocide. I don't think it would have been possible for Harris to thread the needle on either of these issues in a way that didn't alienate a large chunk of voters.

One other issue is that while Harris/democrats in general were proposing actual solutions to issues, they're awful at making people feel heard and validated. Trump excels at making people feel heard, even if he isn't proposing anything that would actually help them.